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The actor’s journey is one of occasional highs and frequent lows. It is a path riddled with self-doubt and frustration as we question our career choices, wondering if we’ll ever really ”make it.” But it is those few moments of glory on stage or screen that can sustain us through all the setbacks and challenges. On this award-winning podcast, New York actor Patrick Oliver Jones invites fellow creatives to share stories of failure and persistence in their lives and careers. It’s a behind-the-scenes look at the creative life rarely seen in the glitz and glam of this industry that reminds us we’re not alone in this often bumpy and winding journey of the performing arts.

Why I‘ll Never Make It Patrick Oliver Jones

    • Arts
    • 4.1 • 26 Ratings

The actor’s journey is one of occasional highs and frequent lows. It is a path riddled with self-doubt and frustration as we question our career choices, wondering if we’ll ever really ”make it.” But it is those few moments of glory on stage or screen that can sustain us through all the setbacks and challenges. On this award-winning podcast, New York actor Patrick Oliver Jones invites fellow creatives to share stories of failure and persistence in their lives and careers. It’s a behind-the-scenes look at the creative life rarely seen in the glitz and glam of this industry that reminds us we’re not alone in this often bumpy and winding journey of the performing arts.

    Kerry Sandell & Marci Duncan Explore the Dissonance in Race Relations

    Kerry Sandell & Marci Duncan Explore the Dissonance in Race Relations

    Theater can serve as a powerful platform for difficult discussions, especially offering a space for nuanced exploration of racial dynamics. It allows audiences to empathize with characters from diverse backgrounds, challenging preconceptions and fostering dialogue. It provides a visceral experience that can elicit strong emotions and provoke introspection.
    Kerry Sandell and Marci Duncan wrote such a play that was born from their own backgrounds, preconceptions, and even misunderstandings. They took on a difficult subject yet were both open to where it would take them. For the purposes of our conversation today, it’s important to note that Kerry is white and Marci is black. Yet they not only share a common birthplace and are both mothers, but they each have a deep affection and appreciation for the performing arts. And by showcasing diverse perspectives, these two use theater to foster more inclusive storytelling and promote compassion.

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    Why I’ll Never Make It is an award-winning, Top Theater Podcast with actor and singer Patrick Oliver Jones and is a production of WINMI Media. Background music is by John Bartmann and Blue Dot Sessions is used under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License.
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    • 1 hr 6 min
    Sara Gettelfinger Shares Her Long and Struggling Journey Back to Broadway

    Sara Gettelfinger Shares Her Long and Struggling Journey Back to Broadway

    Sara Gettelfinger's Broadway debut came in 2000 with the musical Seussical. And she worked steadily on Broadway through the years until she and I met and worked together on The Addams Family national tour in 2011. But then she had to take a break from acting, a break from New York City as well. And except for an Off-Broadway musical in 2014, Sara focused instead on her life and let the career she loved so much take a back seat.
    She’s now back on Broadway in a new musical, Water for Elephants, that opened at the Imperial Theatre on March 21st. We sat down during the preview process, and she openly talks about the struggle and warning signs that led up to her long absence as well as the lessons she’d had to learn, both personally and professionally.

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    Why I’ll Never Make It is an award-winning, Top Theater Podcast with actor and singer Patrick Oliver Jones and is a production of WINMI Media. Background music is by John Bartmann and Blue Dot Sessions is used under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License.
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    • 58 min
    Gabrielle Ruiz Discusses the Addams Family National Tour and Female Representation in the Arts

    Gabrielle Ruiz Discusses the Addams Family National Tour and Female Representation in the Arts

    As we talked about in Part One, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend is what put Gabrielle Ruiz on the map. However, it was her theater training and performance abilities that made it possible for her to be cast in the show. In this rewind episode from 2021, we talk more about her time on the stage and what drives her most as an artist.

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    Why I’ll Never Make It is an award-winning, Top Theater Podcast with actor and singer Patrick Oliver Jones and is a production of WINMI Media. Background music is by John Bartmann and Blue Dot Sessions is used under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License.
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    • 42 min
    FINAL FIVE with Ann Harada, Actress and Singer

    FINAL FIVE with Ann Harada, Actress and Singer

    In the previous episode, you heard actress and singer Ann Harada share her stories of grinding it out as an Asian actress trying to fit in with what she thought casting directors wanted but then discovered her superpower as an artist, being herself. Now she’s back to share more lessons she’s learned and answer the Final Five Questions in this bonus episode of Why I’ll Never Make It.
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    • 26 min
    Ann Harada Learns That Her Greatest Asset as an Actor Is Being Herself

    Ann Harada Learns That Her Greatest Asset as an Actor Is Being Herself

    Ann Harada will be the first to tell you that finding happiness and satisfaction in the acting business didn’t come quickly or easily for her. In fact, her first Broadway credit came as a production assistant, not as an actor. She followed that up with ensemble roles in M. Butterfly and Suessical. But between those two shows was a ten-year gap, and it wasn’t until her next Broadway show that Ann Harada truly made a name for herself as Christmas Eve in Avenue Q. In our conversation, she talks about those lean years before Avenue Q but also how she has had continue working hard and pushing herself even after her breakout role at the tender age of 39.
    Listen to Ann's recent performance in BPN's audio drama TWITS.

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    Why I’ll Never Make It is an award-winning, Top Theater Podcast with actor and singer Patrick Oliver Jones and is a production of WINMI Media. Background music is by John Bartmann and Blue Dot Sessions is used under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License.
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    • 37 min
    FINAL FIVE with Lydia-Renee Darling

    FINAL FIVE with Lydia-Renee Darling

    Last week you heard actress, writer, and entrepreneur Lydia-Renee Darling share her stories of growing up in an immigrant household and then her own experiences of living and working in other countries as an artist. Now she’s back to answer the Final Five Questions in this bonus episode.
    To get more bonus content like Auditions Stories and listen to these full conversations ad-free, then become a subscriber by going to whyillnevermakeit.com and click Subscribe.
    Podcast theme music created by host and producer Patrick Oliver Jones.
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    • 15 min

Customer Reviews

4.1 out of 5
26 Ratings

26 Ratings

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WINMI rocks!!

I’m so glad you interviewed John Rubinstein. Back in the 70’s I was lucky to see John and Ben Vareen in Pippin. I was also a fan of Children of a Lesser God and saw it twice with John. He was so adorable and talented. Thanks Patrick for having a favorite of mine on WINMI.

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Thoughtful and Insightful

Patrick is one of the best podcast hosts out there. Insight and empathetic, he always brings the best out of his guests. Having an actor interview other working actors, rather than stars interviewing other stars, you get an idea of the struggles of going into this craft. It’s the best!

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Love this!

I love this podcast. Patrick is a top-notch interviewer who never gets in the way of his guests. Rather, he lets them talk. Further, he does his research, and the podcast’s production quality is second to none! Highly recommend this podcast. Patrick is the best of the best.

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