It seemed like China had a 100 year plan, and the west was falling apart.
Now it seems like everyone is struggling, and we're all in it together.
We talk to two Americans (including Connor from the Prove Me Wrong, Please podcast) who have lived in China for several years. Initially to discuss whether China will rule the world better now the US is fading as a superpower.
The discussion was impressively nuanced, and took a few fascinating turns.