In the second episode of season 2 of Unlikely Gifts, Frank Boswell sits down with Kupenda for the Children co-founders Leonard Mbonani and Cynthia Bauer to explore the meaning of wisdom and how it has shaped their journey serving families impacted by disabilities. Listen as they reflect on the surprising role a tiny elephant shrew played in Kupenda's founding, the lessons they've learned from children and families often overlooked by society, and why true wisdom begins with humility, listening, and recognizing what we do not know. Together, they discuss how challenging harmful beliefs, valuing every person's contributions, and embracing our shared brokenness can transform individuals, communities, and lives.

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Kupenda for the Children

Introduction by: Tom Tasselmeyer

Moderator: Frank Boswell

Guests: Cynthia Bauer, Leonard Mbonani

Audio engineering: Phillip Knowlton

Music composed by and used with permission from: Jacob Sanders

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