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Everything you need to know about being a professional drummer . . . and a few things you may not want to know. Hosted and produced by Matthew Crouse and Zack Albetta: the podcast Working Drummer covers it all in interviews with dynamic pro drummers.

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Everything you need to know about being a professional drummer . . . and a few things you may not want to know. Hosted and produced by Matthew Crouse and Zack Albetta: the podcast Working Drummer covers it all in interviews with dynamic pro drummers.

    280 – Beth Goodfellow: Loops and Layers with Drums, Percussion, and Voice, How COVID will Effect the Lives and Livelihoods of Working Musicians

    280 – Beth Goodfellow: Loops and Layers with Drums, Percussion, and Voice, How COVID will Effect the Lives and Livelihoods of Working Musicians

    Beth Goodfellow is an LA-based drummer, percussionist, and vocalist. She studied classical percussion at San Jose State while playing gigs around the San Francisco Bay Area, simultaneously serving as a drummer in the California Air National Guard Band of the West Coast. While residing in San Francisco Elizabeth appeared on two episodes of America’s Got Talent as a drummer in The Emily Anne Band and subsequently relocated to Los Angeles. Since moving to L.A. Elizabeth has released two albums of her original music, recorded with artists including Boygenius, Per Gessle, and Crossrecord, and has toured with Iron & Wine and Madison Cunningham.







    In this episode, Beth talks about:







    * Her varied background of drumset, percussion, classical music, musical theatre, military band, and songwriting* What leading creative projects taught her about working as a side player on others’, and vice versa* The National Independent Venue Association* The Restart Act* The questions musicians need to be asking ourselves, each other, and our employers during and after COVID* How Ableton aligned perfectly with the layered and looped way she likes to make music







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    David Northrup is the 2nd drummer in the Beier ad. You can find his solo CD here.

    • 1 hr 20 min
    279 – Eric Darken: Percussionist, Composer, Performing with Jimmy Buffett, From Congas to the Garden Weasel

    279 – Eric Darken: Percussionist, Composer, Performing with Jimmy Buffett, From Congas to the Garden Weasel

    For over 30 years Eric Darken has worked as a studio and touring percussionist for some of the biggest bands and artists in the world. Just a few of his recording credits includes Taylor Swift, BonJovi, Jewel, James Bay, Maren Morris, Bob Seger, Carrie Underwood, The Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir and new artists Carly Pearce and Moon Taxi.







    Eric has traveled around the world and throughout the United States performing with artists such as Vince Gill, Amy Grant, Faith Hill, Take 6 and Bob Seger. He currently tours with Jimmy Buffett and The Coral Reefer Band and frequently performs live with Mac McAnally.







    An accomplished composer and producer, Eric has written original underscores for TV and film. These shows include Dateline NBC, 20/20, Fox Sports, the Discovery Channel, The NFL Network, National Geographic and the film, The Fantastic Four – Rise of the Silver Surfer. Other projects include A Drummer Boy’s Christmas and Sunday Drive.







    In this episode, Eric talks about:







    * Taking advantage of the downtime to grow, learn, write and record from home* “Owning the instrument” learning all the tones and possibilities an instrument can deliver* Working with Jimmy Buffett* Creating percussion parts that are felt but not always heard* From household items to gardening tools to create percussion sounds  * Building a sample library







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    Spotify link to Damon Johnson Live record with Jarrod Pope playing the 6.5×14 Beier Snare















    Eric endorses Meinl Percussion, Paiste Cymbals, Mike Balter Mallets, The Trashkat and Shure Microphones

    • 1 hr 44 min
    278 – Rudy Royston: An Album of Solo Drumming, Storytelling on the Drumset

    278 – Rudy Royston: An Album of Solo Drumming, Storytelling on the Drumset

    First-call New York drummer Rudy Royston has honed a thoroughly engaging voice as a composer and bandleader, and has also performed as a sideman with Dave Douglas, Bill Frisell, and many other jazz greats. His releases include his compelling debut ‘303’ (2014), the raw and bracing trio follow-up ‘Rise of Orion’ (2016) and the chamber quintet release ‘Flatbed Buggy’ (2018). His latest release, “PaNOptic,” is a collection of four suites for solo drumset, the proceeds of which are going to MusiCares to benefit musicians in need during the pandemic. Check it out







    In this episode, Rudy talks about:







    * The making of his new record* Communicating emotional or story-driven ideas on the drumset* How Denver shaped his development as a student and young professional* How gospel and jazz share an “in the moment” ethos* What he took from his experience as a public school music teacher















    Rudy endorses Canopus drums, Vic Firth sticks, Gibraltar hardware, and Sabian cymbals.







    This episode is sponsored by Beier snare drums – CHECK THEM OUT HERE!

    • 1 hr 14 min
    277 – Allen Jones: Drumming for Will Hoge, “DIY Touring”, Horror Stories from the Road

    277 – Allen Jones: Drumming for Will Hoge, “DIY Touring”, Horror Stories from the Road

    Growing up in southern Mississippi, Allen Jones spend his formative years creating his own music career through “DIY touring” and discovering his love of music and drumming. Since his move to Nashville, Tennessee he has played and/or recorded with Americana singer/songwriter Will Hoge and Lilly Hiatt, among others.







    In this episode, Allen talks about:







    * Tapping into the underground music scene even from a small town in Mississippi* “DIY Touring”* Growing your music community organically * Horror stories from the road* Moving to Nashville* Being excited about the music you’re playing  * Recording the last two Will Hoge records







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    Mark Beckett is the drummer featured on the “snare drum of the week”







    David Northrup is the 2nd drummer in the Beier ad. You can find his solo CD here.















    Allen endorses Sabian Cymbals and Evans Drumheads

    • 1 hr 54 min
    276 – Otis Brown III: Playing with Esperanza Spalding and Joe Lovano, The New School Environment, Racial Justice in Jazz

    276 – Otis Brown III: Playing with Esperanza Spalding and Joe Lovano, The New School Environment, Racial Justice in Jazz

    Otis Brown III is a Grammy-nominated jazz drummer, composer, and recording artist who is a go-to session and touring sideman. He is best-known for his work with Joe Lovano in Us Five, and Esperanza Spalding, though he has been on dozens of sessions and is as noteworthy for backing singers as he is instrumentalists.







    Brown III was born in Hackensack, New Jersey. His mother was a vocal music teacher and choir director, and his father a school band instructor and noted percussionist who played with Al Green and James Brown.







    The younger Brown III began his musical studies on alto saxophone at the age of seven under his father’s tutelage, and showed early promise. He played not only in school but in church. After moving to Newark where he attended high school, he played alto in jazz orchestra and snare drum in the marching band, both of which were directed by his dad.







    Brown III attended Delaware State University where he came under the tutelage and mentorship of jazz trumpeter Donald Byrd, an influence that would prove to be profound.







    After completing his studies at Delaware State, he earned a scholarship to New School for Jazz and Contemporary Music in New York — his classmates included pianist Robert Glasper, saxophonist John Ellis, vocalist Bilal Oliver, and trumpeter Kenyon Harrold. In New York, Brown III studied with Larry Goldings, Lewis Nash, Horacio “El Negro” Hernandez, Carl Allen, and others.In this episode, Otis talks about







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    In this episode, Otis talks about:







    * Reconnecting with some of the music that inspired him early on* Growing up the son of musicians and music educators* The accessibility of heroes in New York* His experience at The New School, and his perspective on music education* His thoughts on racial justice in the music world, and how music can and should deliver a message

    • 1 hr 24 min
    275 – Peter Retzlaff: Teaching at The Collective School of Music in NYC, Exposure to Multiple Cultures Through Music, Important Mentors in His Early Years

    275 – Peter Retzlaff: Teaching at The Collective School of Music in NYC, Exposure to Multiple Cultures Through Music, Important Mentors in His Early Years

    Peter Retzlaff is a New York City-based drummer. As a performer, Peter is equally at home in jazz, rock, funk, Brazilian, Afro-Cuban, Afro-Caribbean, odd meter, and New Orleans drumming styles. Peter has played with Kenny Werner, Greg Osby, Diane Schuur, Ray Vega, Maynard Ferguson, Pete McCann, Kim Bock, Loren Stillman, The BMI Big Band, The Jamie Begian Big Band, and his own group, Steeplechase recording artists Flow. 







     As an educator, Peter is Director of Curriculum and a full-time instructor at The Collective School Of Music (formerly known as The Drummer’s Collective). In addition, Peter teaches at the New School in New York City.







     Peter is the author of two books, Turn It Up And Lay It Down: Baby Steps To Giant Steps and Contemporary Jazz Styles For Drums.







     Peter received a B.A. in Jazz and Commercial Music and a B.A. in Business Administration from Capital University. He has also received a M.M. in Jazz Studies from the Manhattan School of Music and is the recipient of three National Endowment for the Arts Grants.  







    Check out Beier Snare’s here – https://www.beierdrums.com







    Featured Beier snare recording is Eddie Bayers drumming for Scotty Simpson







    In this episode, Peter talks about:







    * Why he moved from Columbus Ohio to New York City* Teaching at The Collective School Of Music* The books he published* The influence and inspiration of growing up in Columbus Ohio* The influence of diverse cultures in music* Teaching in New York in the midst of Covid-19















    Peter endorses Innovative Percussion, Zildjian, Remo, and Canopus

    • 1 hr 33 min

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Hatshepsut's phone ,

Hooked Right Away w/ Episode # 259!

Great hosts/interviewer. I was immediately hooked in episode #259 (interview with Matt Brennan), once they touch upon the historic, symbolic nature of the drum in both “slavery” and “conquest” and how the drum was linked pejoratively to subhuman culture.

Ringo Starr and the Ludwig decal on his bass drum... the brief discussion about the cowbell and a reference to Blue Öyster Cult... the relationship between drummer and manufacturer....all great and valuable info.

What’s great is I listened to your episode right on top of a Drumming History (history of the trap set) podcast, so your episode fell serendipitously in line with this one.

I’m really looking forward to other episodes.

kidbanty ,

Insightful & Inspirational

Matt and Zach are doing a great job bringing to light some lesser-known drummers who are making a living playing the drums. Of course, the get some big fish in there too and it's always entertaining an informative. Every path and story is unique and there is a lot of practical information in here!

soyface ,

Great insight

Zach is a great host providing thoughtful commentary on the lives of these accomplished drummers. As an aspiring musicians it is great to hear the stories for professionals in the industry. Love the podcast! Keep up the good work 👍🏼

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