You can't ignore Google Zero anymore

Google Zero continues to affect website after website, and publisher after publisher. David and Nilay discuss Google's increased focus on AI, the web companies finally starting to fight back, and whether there's a way forward for Google's pact with the open web. After that, they talk about a big week in AI detection software, which sometimes works and frequently doesn't. Then it's time for the Hype Desk, Brendan Carr is a dummy, the Light Flip, and more.

Further reading:

• Google hit with $1 billion fine for breaking EU antitrust rules

• Reddit might cut ties with Google as traffic drops. 

• From the NYT: How Google’s A.I. Search Is Imperiling the Open Web

• Google says Gemini now has 950 million monthly users. 

• Google earnings

• China delivers a one-two punch to America’s AI dominance  

• OpenAI says it accidentally hacked Hugging Face with a new AI system 

• Substack adds an AI detector to help spot blogs written by no one 

• Anthropic’s $1.5 billion book piracy settlement approved by judge 

• Jeff Bezos is getting involved with centering Amazon’s AI in Prime Video

• Meta made its own AI detection system. It should have just used Google’s 

• Ford picks Apple Maps for its next EV platform and updated BlueCruise

• Apple’s rumored ‘Upgrade’ program brings lease-to-own pricing for iPhones, Macs, and iPads

• iOS code could reportedly let Apple cut off apps when users miss iPhone payments 

• Framework’s premium laptop is shipping with less RAM 

• The higher-end prebuilt Framework Laptop 13 Pro now costs $800 more. 

• The Light Flip is a minimalist flip phone with a point to prove 

• Judge pauses Paramount’s attempt to buy Warner Bros. Discovery 

• Paramount’s Warner deal gets conditional approval in the EU. 

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(Timestamps are approximate.)

00:00:00 Intro

00:01:00 Claude Reads the Meters

00:04:00 Google Zero and Reddit Deal

00:15:00 AI Overviews Death Spiral

00:25:00 OpenAI Hacks Hugging Face

00:32:00 Substack AI Detector Debate

00:39:00 Prime Video Goes All In

00:44:00 Meta Content Seal Cynicism

00:53:00 Avengers Doomsday

01:03:00 Comic Con And Feige Reset

01:04:00 Brendan Carr Is a Dummy

01:12:00 Ramageddon Hits Framework

01:17:00 Apple Leasing Lockdown

01:21:00 Light Flip Phone Trend

01:26:00 Ford Picks Apple Maps

01:35:00 Paramount Merger Mess

01:35:00 Wrap Up And Plugs

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