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Do you wonder what comes after purity culture? Do conservatives think you're too progressive while progressives think you're too conservative? Are you frustrated by the simplistic way the church spoke about sexuality and humanity? In this podcast, we untangle sexual ethics for a new generation of Christians through conversations that give you the tools you need to develop your own ideas to help you, your community, and your church live a wholehearted life exactly where you are today. We cover topics about sexuality, singleness, marriage, dating, divorce, parenting, and more. You will find sound theological framing and psychological insights shape our conversations with thought leaders in their fields. And you will leave equipped and empowered to live your life. For more information about our show and our guests, check out www.wheredowegopod.com.

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Do you wonder what comes after purity culture? Do conservatives think you're too progressive while progressives think you're too conservative? Are you frustrated by the simplistic way the church spoke about sexuality and humanity? In this podcast, we untangle sexual ethics for a new generation of Christians through conversations that give you the tools you need to develop your own ideas to help you, your community, and your church live a wholehearted life exactly where you are today. We cover topics about sexuality, singleness, marriage, dating, divorce, parenting, and more. You will find sound theological framing and psychological insights shape our conversations with thought leaders in their fields. And you will leave equipped and empowered to live your life. For more information about our show and our guests, check out www.wheredowegopod.com.

    40: Christians break up too

    40: Christians break up too

    You're not the only one who expected to marry the first person they dated. Lots of evangelical teens raised in Purity Culture did. There was no talk on how to break up. No advice on what to do after you got dumped by someone you loved. We start to undo that today by talking about the personal side of breakups - what to do when a relationship ends, how can "metabolizing your trauma" help, and what does a future after a break up look like.
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    Joy Beth Smith is the author of Party of One and winner of the Evangelical Press Association’s Higher Goals in Christian Journalism Award. She’s been published in the New York Times, Washington Post, Salt Lake Tribune, Christianity Today, and Christ and Pop Culture. After earning her MA degree in English Lit, JB had a brief stint as a teacher, but she now works in advertising and happily resides in the Chicagoland area. Follow her on Twitter @JBsTwoCents.    

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    39: Courage and Conviction in the Life of Josephine Butler

    39: Courage and Conviction in the Life of Josephine Butler

    Do you despair when you look at the state of the world and the church today? Let our deep dive into the life of Josephine Butler give you courage. This extraordinary English woman was born into wealth and privilege in 1828 but spent decades of her life working to reform English society. She was a social worker, a government activist, and legal reformer. Josephine Butler campaigned for decades to give women in England a right to an education, work, vote. She worked to improve the rights of prostitutes and other women who were seen as "outcasts" in English society. As you re-imagine your life after purity culture, let Josephine Butler's life help you cast a new vision for what an effective faith can look like in our world today.
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    Amanda Russell-Jones is a sessional lecturer at Regent College. She is a historian with an interest in how the Bible is interpreted and applied to issues of slavery, and women’s relationship to the church both in different historical settings and in our contemporary world. Her recent PhD thesis from the University of Birmingham in the UK was entitled ‘The Voice of the Outcast- Josephine Butler’s Biblical Interpretation and Public Theology.’

    • 47 min
    38: Pelvic Health After Purity Culture

    38: Pelvic Health After Purity Culture

    "We are more than walking pelvises, but we need our pelvises to walk," says Sophia McLean. We talk about pelvic health, the connection between painful sex and purity culture, and the significance of a faith that is embodied.
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    Sophia McLean is a pelvic health physiotherapist in London, Ontario. She has a physical therapy degree from Boston University in and a theology degree from Regent College. She works with clients one-on-one, teaching to small groups, writing educational material, and continuing to explore the intersection of Christian faith, embodiment, and pelvic health. To work with Sophia, you can contact her at sophiamclean.dpt@gmail.com.

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    Taking A Break

    Taking A Break

    No episode from us this week, but we'll be back next week to talk all things pelvises.
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    37: It's Queer, Not "Same-Sex Attracted"

    37: It's Queer, Not "Same-Sex Attracted"

    The language we use to define the queer experience matters, and "same-sex attraction" does not cut it. Bridget Eileen Rivera goes into the history of the words "homosexual" and "same sex attraction" and explains why we need the LGBTQ+ community to use its words to define their experience. This is an expansive conversation about language and also about Bridget's experience as a lesbian Christian.
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    Bridget Eileen Rivera is a writer, speaker, and educator completing her doctoral studies in sociology. She engages in public advocacy related to faith, gender, and sexuality, challenging the church to do better in its inclusion of LGBTQ people. Her first book, Heavy Burdens (Brazos Press, expected 2021), unpacks the legacy of LGBTQ discrimination in the church, helping Christians to better understand the experiences of LGBTQ people within Christianity and guiding readers to consider the tough questions necessary in charting a new path for the church. You can learn more about Bridget at bridgeteileenrivera.com or by following her on Twitter.

    • 43 min
    36: 'Heat Seeking Sex Missiles' And Other Beliefs To Reconsider

    36: 'Heat Seeking Sex Missiles' And Other Beliefs To Reconsider

    Knox McCoy reflects on male youth group culture and why we need to reconsider the evangelical approach to purity culture, and he shares how he has the conversation about masculinity and sex with his own children. We also talk about how the depiction of male and female sexuality has changed from Superbad in 2007 to Booksmart in 2019.
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    Knox McCoy began podcasting in 2011 as a way to talk more about popular culture, and to his extreme surprise, he’s still doing it via The Popcast with Knox and Jamie and The Bible Binge. He's the author of All Things Reconsidered: How Rethinking What We Know Helps Us Know What We Believe. Connect with Knox on Twitter and Instagram. 

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