Beyond Consultation Business Lab

First up, a big announcementToday's episode is significant as it marks the last interview the Beyond Consultation Podcast will be releasing for the foreseeable future. That's big! But why end a good thing... find out more in the episode.Introducing Jade Tang-TaylorThis kōrero with Jade asks how do we care for ourselves when we care for our work?Working to change systems and organisations is tough work. It's never complete. Your efforts often pass by with no thanks. (And often you bear the brunt of people's negative emotions.)We also talk about how our culture and heritage can profoundly affect our work. Our history shapes our future - whether we're aware of it or not.In today's episode you'll learn:


How to care for yourself even when that feels like the last thing on your list
How to embrace the legacy of your cultural heritage within your mahi
The effects of AI in the workplace and how you can maintain your humanity in the midst of massive technological and social change.

Resources mentioned in this episode:


⁠The Long Time Academy Podcast. ⁠
⁠Check out Academy X here. ⁠
⁠Connect with Jade Tang-Taylor on Linkedin here. ⁠

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Introducing Judy Zhang

How can we put relationships, learning and a systems-view at the centre of our work?

This question is what guides my kōrero with Construction Accord Director, Judy Zhang.

The Construction Accord is a shared commitment between government and industry to transform the construction sector. In 2022, the government set out a three-year action plan to tackle the sector's systemic challenges and build resilience across the industry.

With the temptation to sweep failures under the rug when working in the public sector, Judy shares how transformative it can be when we put learning at the heart of our work.

In today's episode you'll learn:


What happens when you put relationships and learning at the center of systems change.
Why evaluation needs to be everybody's job (not just the data people's)
How to shift from KPIs (focused on proving your progress) to meaningful measures (focused on learning).

Resources mentioned in this episode:


Learn more about the Construction Accord mahi here.
Get more insight with the Construction Sector Accord evaluation report here.
Expand your Behavioral insights understanding in policy here.
Find the Construction Sector Accord Transformation Plan here.
Read about the Theory of Change here.



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Introducing Natalia Sexton



How can a philanthropic funder use its power, influence and resources to enable systems change?



Today's kōrero with is with Natalia Sexton, General Manager of Weave (the new name for the Working Together More Fund).



Natalia has advised and held leadership positions with Iwi, Government, NGO’s and Philanthropy. You can hear her passion coming through for centering whānau and community voices in transformational change.



Like me, Natalia is a recovering law graduate - but don't hold that against us. 😉



In today's episode you'll learn:


How to shift power dynamics to create positive systems change.


Why it's essential that our whakapapa is at the core of everything we do.


How to weave equity into everything your organisation does.



Resources mentioned in this episode:


⁠WEAVE NZ.⁠


⁠Connect with Natalia on Linkedin. ⁠



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Introducing Tracey Shepherd



August's episode is another gem brought to you through my Inspiring Communities connection (big shout out to the wonderful people that work there).

Tracey Shepherd, REAP Aotearoa National Director, on the committee for Cloudkids Educare and coordinator of Fab Feathy, a community-led development initiative in Pae Tū Mokai Featherston.



Our kōrero today centres around the incredible force of coming together as a community, supporting each other, and just bloody getting on with it.

In such a time of disconnect, it's more important than ever to reconnect.

In today's episode you'll learn:


The power of a community leading and doing it for themselves.
Invest in the outcomes you want, but adjust your thinking in how to achieve those outcomes.
The work that REAP Aotearoa and Fab Feathy are doing in leading community development.

Resources mentioned in this episode:


Connect with Tracey Shepherd on Linkedin.
REAP Aotearoa.
Fab Feathy.

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Introducing Vanessa Sidney-Richmond and Sarah Morris

Today's episode was sparked by the recent release of a report called Make the Move: Shifting How the Public Sector Works with Communities.



I don't know about you, but that's a topic I can get in behind.



In today's episode, I talk to Vanessa Sidney-Richmond,
Pou Whirinaki of Te Tihi o Ruahine Whānau Ora Alliance, and Sarah Morris, Freelance Social and Systems Change Consultant and author of the report (commissioned by Inspiring Communities).



In our kōrero, the overarching theme is around the question; how can we shift the way the public sector works with communities? How can we broaden government's role so it's about creating the conditions for change, alongside creating solutions themselves?



We cover a few key topics in today's episode, and that's what I love about these interviews! A complete collaboration and sharing of ideas and opinions.



So please, enjoy this impactful kōrero with Vanessa and Sarah, and make sure to check out the report. Don't just listen to this episode... share it with your team and use the report to inspire some deep learning, reflection and action.


In today's episode you'll learn:


What 'locally led, regionally supported and nationally enabled' really means and how this approach can positively impact communities.
What do we mean by 'creating the conditions for change'? (And why is that shift so important?)
How can we rebalance the relationship between government and community, bit by bit?


Resources mentioned in this episode:


The Make the Move Report ⁠⁠
Connect with Sarah on Linkedin.
Learn more about Vanessa's organisation Te Tihi
Inspiring Communities website.
Powerdigm website.

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Introducing Mele Wendt

Most of us have heard about IQ (your intellectual quotient), and some of us have heard about EQ (your emotional quotient). But what do you know about your CQ - your cultural quotient?

In a world of diverse ethnicities and cultures, it's time to grow your cultural awareness.

In today's episode, Mele Wendt graciously gives us some tough love and unpacks some Pasifika concepts of governance and collaboration. Her whakapapa roots back to Samoa, and so her perspective comes through a Samoan lens.

Mele shares with us how the Samoan governance system is so different, yet so similar to Western governance systems.

And she challenges us to stop lumping "the Pasifika community" together as one, and instead get out there and learn about the rich cultural diversity and needs of Pasifika communities before we engage.

In today's episode you'll learn:


What is CQ and how can you grow yours
How Samoan governance is similar to Western governance (and how you can embrace that when working with Pasifika peoples)
Some hard-hitting practical tips for engaging with Pasifika communities.

Resources mentioned in this episode:


The Learning Lab
Connect with Mele on Linkedin.

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