Big Tech War Stories

Alex Kantrowitz
Big Tech War Stories

Go 1-on-1 with the builders in the trenches creating the Big Tech products you love, hate, and have never seen. www.bigtechnology.com

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  1. Siri Co-Founder: We Built Siri as a 'Do Engine.'

    4 JUNE

    Siri Co-Founder: We Built Siri as a 'Do Engine.'

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.bigtechnology.com For years, Siri co-founder Norman Winarsky asked his Stanford classes whether he and his colleagues made the right decision selling their voice bot to Apple. The investor, entrepreneur, and lecturer told me he leaned toward staying independent and IPO. But there was risk operating alone without a deep integration into a mobile operating system like iOS. So after much persistence from Steve Jobs, the deal went through. Today, fifteen years after Apple bought Siri and one year after the company launched Apple Intelligence, Winarsky’s question is more thought provoking than ever. As Apple gets ready to announce its latest vision for Siri and Apple Intelligence at next week’s WWDC, the company is, in many ways, returning toward the plan that Winarsky and his colleagues laid out in Siri’s early days. “This personal assistant would be able to take actions for you,” Winarsky told me of the original Siri vision in our latest Big Tech War Stories podcast episode. “How do you find the nearest gas station? Get me a ticket to the local theater? Buy me a hotel room near San Francisco? All these capabilities were things that you wanted it to do rather than just search.” The full interview — covering Siri’s founding and what’s happened since — is available in full for Big Technology paid subscribers, with preview available for everyone. As Winarsky tells it, the Siri project began in 2003 with DARPA’s ‘Cognitive Assistant that Learns and Organizes’ project.

    28 min
  2. Why Google Never Shipped Its ChatGPT Predecessor

    30/10/2023

    Why Google Never Shipped Its ChatGPT Predecessor

    Google had an equal — and perhaps better — version of ChatGPT working inside its company before OpenAI released its bot to the world. But it never shipped.  So why didn’t Google ship it? Gaurav Nemade, the bot’s first product manager, shares what happened on our new Big Tech War Stories podcast. This is the show’s first-ever episode —available to premium Big Technology subscribers — and we’re debuting with a free preview today. The key issues holding the bot back, according to Nemade, were public relations concerns and the dark cloud cast by Microsoft’s misadventure with Tay, a teenage character bot that turned Nazi overnight. “PR always top of mind for leaders,” says Nemade. “On the other side, OpenAI — they don't give a s**t about PR. For the most part, they don't. They are like, ‘Okay, this is what we think is right. This is a reasonable way of putting it out.’ They become vulnerable, they put it out, and then they work with the community.” Nemade also shares a list of potential products his team thought LLM technology could be used for, including imbuing non-playable characters in video games with complex personalities and bots that would get you out of awkward situations by calling your phone and talking you to safety. Google eventually did ship Bard, an LLM-powered chatbot, but Nemade is convinced it would’ve sat on the technology if OpenAI hadn’t forced its hand. More in the interview! Launch Special Big Technology’s launch special is running for the next few days. Sign up and you’ll get Big Tech War Stories, our panel of experts reacting to major news events, Kristi Coulter’s Amazon column, and my weekly Friday stories. This deal is $90 for the year, or 50% off the monthly price. Check it out → Big Technology AMA Tomorrow, Tuesday, October 31, at 11 a.m. pacific time / 2 p.m. eastern, I am hosting an ‘ask me anything’ session here on Substack. You can join, ask anything, and register here: https://lu.ma/Alex-Kantrowitz-ama Thanks! Alex PS: Here’s our Big Tech War Stories Podcast art, courtesy of Dall-3 This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.bigtechnology.com/subscribe

    48 min

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