8 episodes

In 1970, Mary Petry and Bill Sproat, two university students in love, were murdered in a Columbus, Ohio apartment. The crime was so brutal it drew comparisons to the Manson murders of the previous year. The case has never been solved. Host/Producer Justin Glanville and the sisters of the two victims track down friends, witnesses to the original investigation and the Columbus police to understand why the case remains unsolved, despite the existence of solid DNA evidence and the fact that police say they have a person of interest. Along the way, the three explore who really owns DNA collected at crime scenes – families or police? – and what it takes to bring new attention to a 53-year-old cold case in an era when police departments are struggling to attract new recruits.

Mary & Bill: An Ohio Cold Case Ideastream Public Media

    • True Crime
    • 4.8 • 5 Ratings

In 1970, Mary Petry and Bill Sproat, two university students in love, were murdered in a Columbus, Ohio apartment. The crime was so brutal it drew comparisons to the Manson murders of the previous year. The case has never been solved. Host/Producer Justin Glanville and the sisters of the two victims track down friends, witnesses to the original investigation and the Columbus police to understand why the case remains unsolved, despite the existence of solid DNA evidence and the fact that police say they have a person of interest. Along the way, the three explore who really owns DNA collected at crime scenes – families or police? – and what it takes to bring new attention to a 53-year-old cold case in an era when police departments are struggling to attract new recruits.

    The Time to Live

    The Time to Live

    The approvals process for submitting DNA evidence proves time-consuming, as Columbus Police ready samples for “familial searches” of offender databases. A woman whose sister was murdered in the 1980s explains how forensic genealogy led to answers and reflects on the idea of closure. Martha Petry and Pat Sproat Loeliger reunite more than 50 years after the murder of their siblings and discuss their current thinking about the case’s solvability. A breakthrough occurs that leads to new hope for resolution.

    • 47 min
    Behind the “Blue Wall” (Sort Of)

    Behind the “Blue Wall” (Sort Of)

    Columbus Police agree to speak with Mary's identical twin sister, Martha Petry, and reveal they are waiting to submit DNA evidence for forensic genealogy analysis. First, they're working to rule out two other suspects. James Renner, a true crime author and founder of the nonprofit Porchlight Project, says a window for solving the case may be closing as forensic genealogy becomes increasingly regulated.

    • 35 min
    And She Was Gone

    And She Was Gone

    A woman who shared a ride to Columbus with Mary recalls Mary was adamant about waiting for Bill to pick her up from a hotel lobby, which Mary's brother finds puzzling. Podcast host Justin Glanville explores a possible connection between the crime and Mary's travels to France. Justin and Martha Petry struggle to make contact with the Columbus police.

    • 36 min
    A Crime of Passion?

    A Crime of Passion?

    Police and family members have long speculated that whoever killed Mary Petry and Bill Sproat may have known them. There were no signs of forced entry into the apartment, and the brutal nature of the killings indicates an emotional component. But Mary and Bill had no apparent enemies. An unexpected tip came in the mid-2000s, saying a religious figure in Mary's life wanted to punish her for considering pre-marital sex – a theory that Mary’s sister finds bizarre. Several retired police officers share their perspectives on the case, including submitting DNA evidence for matching in a state database.

    • 37 min
    A Dimly-Lit Welcome

    A Dimly-Lit Welcome

    The Columbus police make a surprise visit to Cleveland, and one of the surviving reporters who covered the murders of Mary Petry and Bill Sproat in 1970 shares details on the cold case. A forensic pathologist reviews the autopsy and coroner's reports to reveal possible discrepancies in the case.

    • 39 min
    Everybody Isn’t Going to France

    Everybody Isn’t Going to France

    A formal request is made to the Columbus Police Department for documents related to the murders of Mary Petry and Bill Sproat, inspiring an unexpected visit from detectives. Police reports begin to flesh out the timeline of the crime, and a tour of the Columbus apartment where the murders took place suggests how the murderer might have gained access. Bill’s sister Pat Sproat Loeliger shares her memories of Bill, including his love of French language and culture.

    • 35 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
5 Ratings

5 Ratings

Hobart21 ,

Excellent podcast

A very thoughtful and interesting podcast, thank you Justin. Learnt a lot about DNA testing and the concept of closure. Rest in peace Bill and Mary.

DOEHEAD453 ,

Gr8 podcast

Great podcast, but why do you interview your mum and dad in what sounds like a wind tunnel? In a quiet studio or something would have been a lot better.

Karen of iTunes Reviews ,

Very interesting

Love the podcast and I hope your investigation leads to some answers. The music is very loud, is there any way to soften it a little? Thank you

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