Night Owls John Ellis and Joe Klein

Joe praises Tom Friedman and ponders RFK Jr. John is all worked up about 7 EV chargers. Biology is being transformed by Google DeepMind. And more.

There is only one Jim Cramer. We talked to him about everything. 

Joe and John talk to veteran Democratic Party campaign manager Joe Trippi about why Trump might lose and what Biden has to do to beat him. 

Joe and John talk to Mark Tercek about the changing climate and the challenges it presents. Mark is well-qualified to discuss the "issue," having served as CEO of the Nature Conservancy for over a decade. It's a very informative discussion, entirely due to Mark's encyclopedic knowledge of the subject matter. Listen and learn. You'll learn a lot. 

John and Joe consider the Arizona Supreme Court decision on abortion. Joe unpacks five potential threats to President Biden this fall. Plus, a discussion of NPR's integrity in light of a bombshell essay about its inherent bias.

Joe and John interview Jane Perlez, former New York Times Beijing bureau chief, about her upcoming 8-part podcast series: "Face-Off, The U.S. vs. China." Once friends, now foes, the question is: what happens next?