Not Another Dog and Pony Show Not Another Dog And Pony Show

Where Matthias sits down (sadly, without Lauren) with the philosophical Chad Mackin to talk about leash communication.



Also, the importance of escape hatches when pushing close to thresholds, gentle communication pressure vs revenge pressure in training, and the power of letting learners think that their behaviour change is their idea and not something you imposed on them - whether dog, horse, or human.



Chad's 'Rowing' technique for LLW:

https://youtu.be/ncu_7jkPEBc?si=-lb_TYhcMGaPmK6a



Chad's SHEARR method for LLW:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0woHgI-O9b0



Chad's YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/@chadmackin/featured



Chad on IG:

@chadmackin



Chad on Substack:
https://open.substack.com/pub/chadmackin



Chad on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/BarkAbout

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Where Lauren sits down (sadly, without Matthias) to talk with the cooperative care maven Monique Feyrecilde, about knowing your audience - whether dog, horse, or human client.



Also, our moral obligation to not cause animals to be dangerous for others to handle in the future, the kind of truths that help people do better, and the importance of being a positive memory curator when working with animals.



Monique's website:

https://www.teachinganimals.com/



Monique's YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh_FWbiDsBpF7d_i5ID4GoA



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Where we sit down for a few metaphorical and metaphysical beers with the icon Suzanne Clothier, and talk about how we view - and qualify - our relationships and (training) interactions with animals.



Also, transactional relationships vs social relationships, how animal training certifying bodies might assess trainers without a quadrant emphasis, and Suzanne and Lauren tell us how they really feel about training captive cetaceans with positive reinforcement.



Suzanne Clothier's website:

https://suzanneclothier.com/



Mosquito in ASL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Gwz2AT79o



Pros and cons of marine mammals in captivity:

https://www.marinebio.org/creatures/marine-life-in-captivity-exploring-the-pros-and-cons/



Violet, doing her tick impression:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yqw_f26SvM



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Where we lay Matthias down on the therapy couch and take a bit of a wild ride to talk about what he sees as the inherent selfishness of animal ownership.

Also, we discuss rehoming animals, the mythical desert island of retired professional dog trainers, billionaire tourism, and who has a better life: the rodeo bucking horse or the show horse?

Billionaire tourism podcast:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/billionaire-tourism/id493536367?i=1000650933725

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Where we talk about the animal training and behaviour video content we put out on social media: is showing our 'mistakes' or less-than-perfect training or behaviour sessions harmful or helpful? What can be lost or gained by sharing such posts?

Also, we discuss 'before and after' training/behaviour videos, and Matthias' Jedi-like ways of staying open-minded while engaging with another trainer's content when he might disagree. Bonus: Matthias drops some S, D, and F-bombs, much to Lauren's delight. Finally.

Matthias' 'fridge face': https://www.equinebehaviorist.ca/fridge-face

Lauren engaging in what some might view as a training 'mistake' demonstration with her horse: https://youtu.be/cF2SGk9mZnc

The Hidden Brain podcast on making mistakes: https://hiddenbrain.org/podcast/making-the-most-of-your-mistakes/

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Where we talk with our first-ever guest, the lovely Sarah Stremming about using punishment - effectively and humanely - during dog or horse training.

Also, a discussion about what Sarah does differently now since the airing of her podcast episode on this same topic, choke chains on dolphins (?!), and how 'make them know they're wrong' might not be the best approach when using punishment.

You can find Sarah and her offerings at: https://sarahstremming.com/

Or listen to the very Cog-Dog pod episode that got Matthias hankering to have Sarah on our pod: https://soundcloud.com/sarah-stremming/punishment-within-lima



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