The Long and The Short Of It Peter Shepherd & Jen Waldman

In this week's reflective episode, Pete and Jen dig in to the conversation they had with Seth Godin last week, discussing both the conversation itself and also the ways in which they each showed up.

This week, Seth makes a return visit to the podcast, and he, Jen, and Pete dive in to a wide range of topics, such as Seth's new book, bees, meetings, leaf blowers, and so much more.

This week, Pete and Jen ping pong back and forth about the idea of how chapters and seasons can play a role in our days, weeks, and years.

This week, Jen and Pete debunk, demystify, and pick apart the phrase "missionvisionvalues".

With the arrival of Pete's son Ollie, Pete has been reading lots of children's books of late, and this week, he and Jen noodle on who children's books are actually for and how we might think about having multiple audiences in the projects that we create.

In this year's annual running episode, Jen brings Pete a new metaphor for life that she has found through her habit of running, and together they noodle on how else the idea of pacing might show up in our daily lives.