Ep. 2: Civilian vs Military Design Tension: Extended Cut

Host Philippe Beaulieu-Brossard in conversation with guests Ben Zweibelson, Philip Cash, Jeffrey van der Veer, Nathan Schwagler and Robin van Oorschot engaging the tension between Civilian and Military Design.
*Please note this episode was recorded in a noisy environment and may be difficult to hear in places. It is still made available as a resource for the community.