22 episodes

Race, racism, identity, culture, difference — let’s talk it out. It’s Not a Race, with host Beverley Wang, is the ABC podcast Australia needs right now.

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    • Society & Culture
    • 5.0 • 11 Ratings

Race, racism, identity, culture, difference — let’s talk it out. It’s Not a Race, with host Beverley Wang, is the ABC podcast Australia needs right now.

    Bonus: Still Processing's Jenna Wortham and Wesley Morris

    Bonus: Still Processing's Jenna Wortham and Wesley Morris

    Jenna Wortham and Wesley Morris are two culture writers at The New York Times — and co-hosts of the hit podcast, Still Processing.

    They are pop culture commentary royalty, and on their first visit to Australia, Jenna and Wesley spoke to Beverley Wang on Stop Everything! for the only radio interview of their tour.

    As a special bonus for It's Not A Race, here's their full conversation.

    Contact us at notarace@abc.net.au or tweet using #NotARace.

    • 33 min
    The diversity panel to end all diversity panels, a live finale for season two!

    The diversity panel to end all diversity panels, a live finale for season two!

    'Diversity' has become a popular talking point across all sectors of work, and diversity panels are regular fixtures of conferences, festivals and corporate events.

    But once the talk is done, and the warm, self-satisfied glow of attending has worn off — where does the hard work begin?

    For its season two finale, It's Not A Race teamed up with Audiocraft to present 'the diversity panel to end all diversity panels' with all-star guests Paola Balla, Santilla Chingaipe and Benjamin Law, live onstage with Beverley Wang, for a conversation about the double-edged sword of standing in for 'diversity' and where they would like to see the conversation progress.

    Also featuring a musical performance by Yeo.

    Contact us at notarace@abc.net.au or tweet using #NotARace.

    • 5 min
    Race in the online space: Ben, Jez, Kumi, Osman, Yassmin and the Nazi hunter

    Race in the online space: Ben, Jez, Kumi, Osman, Yassmin and the Nazi hunter

    Things can become very racist, very fast on social media.

    We talk to a self-styled online 'Nazi-hunter' about her unusual hobby.

    And Yassmin Abdel-Magied, Osman Faruqi, Benjamin Law, Kumi Taguchi and Jeremy Fernandez share their advice for dealing with racism online.

    Contact us at notarace@abc.net.au or tweet using #NotARace.

    • 22 min
    Candy Bowers and Busty Beatz are decolonising creative spaces

    Candy Bowers and Busty Beatz are decolonising creative spaces

    Candy Bowers and Busty Beatz are showbusiness sisters and collaborators who tell it as they see it.

    Fearless and unapologetic, they've long been vocal about the whiteness of arts institutions, and worked actively to critique representation from within and without.

    They talk to It's Not A Race about the highs and lows of decolonising creative spaces.

    Contact us at notarace@abc.net.au or tweet using #NotARace.

    • 21 min
    Ronny Chieng flips the script

    Ronny Chieng flips the script

    International student, comedian, actor, Daily Show senior correspondent — Ronny Chieng has inhabited all these roles in many different locations.

    Malaysia born, US, Singapore and Australia-educated, Ronny's now based in New York.

    The self-described "forever immigrant" and "political cyborg" spoke to It's Not A Race about the shifting terrain of identity, and how he uses comedy to flip the script on conventional narratives.

    Contact us at notarace@abc.net.au or tweet using #NotARace.

    • 25 min
    Who's on the team? Unpacking POC

    Who's on the team? Unpacking POC

    People of colour! It's the 'team name' for anyone who doesn't identify as white.

    But how well does this American term fit into the Australian context, and what are the tensions that lie beneath?

    We are unpacking team POC with Sangeetha Thanapal, an activist and writer who identified Chinese Privilege in Singapore, Loretta Ross, educator and US reproductive rights activist, and Eugenia Flynn, arts worker and community organiser.

    Contact us at notarace@abc.net.au or tweet using #NotARace.

    • 24 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
11 Ratings

11 Ratings

winterbamboo ,

Great Listen and high resonating

Hi Beverly, Just finished listening to all, if not most of the episodes, while trying to write my research paper on intimate partner violence, housing crisis in Vancouver, and racialized women's health. Listening while doing this gives me strength to keep writing it.
I hope you continue the work that you do.

Rob from Guelph ,

Looking forward to a Season 2 of It's Not A Race

Season 1 was great, and I'm hoping Beverley Wang and her team get to produce a Season 2 of the podcast (I'm looking at you Radio National...) For me personally, there are a few things I have in common with the host and more generally with the experience of racism: I'm Canadian, like Beverley, although I'm of mixed race - Chinese (my father was of Chinese descent, though born in the then British colony of Trinidad and Tobago in the Carribean) and white (my mother is Canadian, of Anglo-Scottish descent), and at the time I was born in the mid-1950s mixed race marriages and kids were anything but common in Canada, as I presume was the case throughout most of the British Commonwealth countries including Australia. The show presents a frank and open discussion of a topic that is still a touchy and difficult one to engage people in, and It's Not A Race does an excellent job of handling it with honesty, sensitivity, and a requisite dose of humour. Definitely recommend listening to it.

Sillykitty76 ,

Great insight

So interesting to hear perspectives on race outside North America and very interested in the colonial parallels between Australia and Canada. The Jedda discussion was great. Can't wait to hear more.

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