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Welcome to the 'Business of Dance' with your host Menina Fortunato. Tune in as we dive into insightful interviews with industry experts, sharing personal journeys and career advice for aspiring pro dancers. This podcast is your key to turning your dance dreams into reality.

The Business of Dance MENINA FORTUNATO

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Welcome to the 'Business of Dance' with your host Menina Fortunato. Tune in as we dive into insightful interviews with industry experts, sharing personal journeys and career advice for aspiring pro dancers. This podcast is your key to turning your dance dreams into reality.

    22 - Jessica Castro: Navigating New York as a Pro Dancer & Choreographer

    22 - Jessica Castro: Navigating New York as a Pro Dancer & Choreographer

    Episode Summary:

    In this episode, Jessica's story begins with her humble & late start in New York City at 19, where she discovered her passion for dance and forged meaningful connections within the dance community. Despite initially navigating the industry without an agent, Jessica's talent and perseverance led her to work with esteemed choreographers like Tina Landon and Hi Hat, paving the way for her growth as a dancer.

    As Jessica reflects on her career trajectory, she emphasizes the pivotal role in the movie ´´Honey´´ as Jessica Alba’s dance double and courage in navigating the industry's challenges. 

    She shares memorable moments dancing in two Super Bowls with Janet Jackson & Beyonce, The Greatest Showman, In the Heights. Amidst the glitz and glamour, Jessica emphasizes the significance of kindness, professionalism, and trust in maintaining longevity in the industry.

    As the conversation delves into Jessica's transition from dancer to choreographer and educator, she offers insights into the responsibilities and qualities sought in dancers.Her journey from young dancer to choreographer, educator, and mother underscores the multifaceted nature of success in the industry, inspiring listeners to pursue their artistic ambitions with determination and authenticity.



    Show Notes:




    00:03 - Dance career development with industry professionals.


    05:24 - Career growth in the entertainment industry.


    09:22 - The importance of unity and standing up for what's right in the entertainment industry.


    14:37 - Film and dance experiences with memorable moments.


    19:46 - Career and life changes as an artist and dancer.


    25:13 - Challenges and rewards of a career in the entertainment industry.


    29:27 - The importance of professionalism and trust in the entertainment industry.


    37:40 - Being a choreographer, responsibilities, and qualities sought in dancers.


    41:36 - Navigating the New York dance industry, with tips on classes and studios.


    47:35 - Artistic inspiration and responsibility.


    53:34 - Longevity and success in the dance industry 





    Biography:

    Jessica Castro is an internationally acclaimed dancer and choreographer whose formal training began in New York City at the prestigious Alvin Ailey American Dance program.

    She has graced stages all across the world including Superbowl Halftime Shows with Janet Jackson and Beyoncé, The World Cup in Africa, and appearing on film in the blockbuster hit “The Greatest Showman”.

    Jessica has built a successful career as both a dancer and choreographer working with the likes of Jonas Brothers, Alicia Keys, Doja Cat, Rosalia, Ciara, Jennifer Hudson, Janet Jackson, Jennifer Lopez, Ricky Martin, Pharell, The Black Eyed Peas, Rihanna, Mariah Carey, Kelly Rowland, Will Smith and Mary J Blige.

    From her work on the Jonas Brothers’ “What A Man Gotta Do” video to their subsequent Grammy’s Performance, to working on CBS’s new dance show, “Come Dance with Me”, and the Netflix romantic comedy, “Christmas With You”. Whether it’s film, TV, music videos, live performances, tours or artist development.

    Some of Jessica’s most recent TV credits include Law & Order Organized Crime, Harlem on Amazon Prime, Step-Up Series, and The Best Man: Final Chapters on Peacock. Additionally, she has worked on a number of beauty and commercial campaigns which include M.A.C. Cosmetics “Powder Kiss” and “Love Me” campaigns as well as commercials for Kohl’s and Nine West starring Ciara. Jessica also served as assistant choreographer for the Netflix series, “The Get Down”.

    Recently, Jessica was chosen as one of three contributing choreographers by the 50th annual Dance on Camera festival presented by Dance Films association and Film at Lincoln Center for “Women of The Ghetto” in collaboration with Wonderland Magazine.



    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/iliajessicacastro

    https://www.facebook.com/jessica.castro.7140 

    • 58 min
    21 - Anastasia Miller Burns: Talent Agent to becoming VP of Inside Dance Magazine

    21 - Anastasia Miller Burns: Talent Agent to becoming VP of Inside Dance Magazine

    Episode Summary:

    Anastasia Miller Burns offers a captivating narrative of her journey through the dance industry trenches. From her humble beginnings in studio competitions to her tenure as a talent agent and publisher, she shares invaluable insights into the multifaceted world of dance careers.

    The episode kicks off with Anastasia delving into the nuances of dance industry career development, providing a roadmap for aspiring dancers looking to make their mark. Drawing from her wealth of experience, she emphasizes the importance of professionalism and business acumen in navigating the competitive landscape.

    As the conversation unfolds, she reflects on her transition from dancer to executive, shedding light on her role as Vice President of Inside Dance magazine. From pitching stories to fostering face-to-face connections, she unveils the intricacies of magazine publishing and the digital transformation reshaping the industry.

    The episode wraps up with a focus on career paths in dance, with insights on opportunities between LA and New York. From internship opportunities to the qualities sought in clients and employees, Anastasia leaves listeners inspired and empowered to pursue their passions in the dynamic world of dance.

    Show Notes:




    00:03 - Dance industry career development with insights from professionals.


    01:59 - Dance career journey from studio to talent agent to magazine publisher.


    05:20 - Professionalism and business skills for dancers.


    08:26 - Professionalism, marketing assets, and work life as a dance industry executive.


    14:37 - Building a career in the dance industry through networking and reputation.


    17:33 - How to pitch stories and feature dancers in a magazine.


    21:23 - Dance career development, networking, and skill-building.


    28:47 - Magazine's digital transformation and international expansion.


    31:58 - The fast-paced and unpredictable nature of the entertainment industry.


    34:55 - Trusting oneself and continuing education in the dance industry.


    43:16 - Career paths in commercial dance between LA and New York, with insights on opportunities and skills required.


    46:39 - Qualities sought in clients and employees, including professionalism, passion, and creativity.


    49:11 - Internship opportunities in the dance industry with a focus on hands-on training and industry insights.



    Biography:

    Anastasia is a former graduate and dance team captain from The Ohio State University. After graduation, Anastasia moved to Los Angeles and became a talent agent booking choreographers, dancers, actors, athletes, and models in feature films, television, commercials, music videos, Broadway productions, and world artist tours.

    She was a senior agent and department director at BLOC Talent Agency LA, BLOC NYC and Clear Talent Group NYC.

    For the past decade, she has joined the team at Inside Publications in Atlanta, GA as Executive Vice President and Co-Publisher of the all-access dance magazine, INSIDE DANCE. 

    Anastasia has been a keynote speaker at multiple talent/teacher conventions across the US and internationally.

    She’s had the honor of judging and directing for multiple talent and dance events over the past 20 years. Starting in 2010 she became part of the USASF & IASF Dance World Championships Dance Director team where she took on the role of Jazz Director overseeing the genre’s judges for jazz divisions, and as of 2013 until present, is one of the Hip Hop Directors for hip hop divisions at the Dance World Championships.

    Working closely with industry professionals through the pages and media outlets of INSIDE DANCE has brought all of the years of her dance and talent business experience full circle!



    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/anastasiamillerburns

    https://www.facebook.com/anastasia.miller.16

    • 55 min
    20 - Angela Elgani: Touring with Britney Spears & Backstreet Boys

    20 - Angela Elgani: Touring with Britney Spears & Backstreet Boys

    Episode Summary:

    In this episode, Angela Elgani shares her insights into the dance industry, emphasizing the significance of networking. Starting as an eager newcomer to the dance scene, Angela recounts her journey of attending events and classes to forge key connections. She reflects on the thrilling yet demanding nature of her first tour and provides practical tips for dancers to stand out in auditions, highlighting the necessity of a distinct style or "sauce."

    Angela speaks candidly about facing rejection, such as missing out on opportunities to dance for icons like Janet Jackson or Madonna, underscoring resilience as an essential trait for dancers. Despite these setbacks, her successful engagements with top-tier artists like the Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears underline her achievements.

    The episode concludes with Angela advocating for mentorship and persistence in pursuing dance careers, offering motivation and advice to aspirants. Her narrative underscores the blend of grit, talent, and sometimes luck needed to succeed in the competitive realm of dance.

    Listeners, from novices to pros, will find Angela's experiences and guidance invaluable for their own dance aspirations in this enlightening podcast episode.



    Show Notes:




    00:07:45 The Importance of Networking in Dance


    00:09:53 The Role of Agencies


    00:15:23 Preparing for Stage Performances


    00:16:43 The Thrill and Challenges of First Tour Rehearsals


    00:29:10 Standing Out in a Crowd


    00:30:53 The Art of "Putting Sauce" on Dance


    00:38:01 The Importance of Social Engagements in Networking


    00:48:00 Overcoming Disappointments in the Dance Industry


    00:55:34 Closing Remarks and Future Aspirations





    Biography:

    Angela Elgani is a name that resonates with creativity, passion, and a relentless drive for excellence. She is a multifaceted talent, known for her work as a dancer, creative director, choreographer, host, and actress. Angela has been in the limelight for her collaborations with some of the biggest names in the entertainment industry, including Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys.

    While there is limited information about her early life, Angela's career trajectory speaks volumes about her talent. She has been a part of some of the most iconic tours and performances, including Britney Spears' "Dream With a Dream Tour" from 2002-2005 and the Backstreet Boys from 1999-2000. Her skills are not just confined to dancing; she has also made her mark as a creative director and choreographer.

    Angela's versatility is evident from her work in films like 'Step Up Revolution' (2012) and 'You Got Served' (2004). She has also worked with the Jonas Brothers, further solidifying her reputation as a versatile talent in the industry.



    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.facebook.com/public/Angela-Maria-Elgani

    https://www.instagram.com/xoxoangela_elgani/

    • 56 min
    19 - Olivia Alboher & Avery Gay: So You Think You Can Dance: Their Untold Stories

    19 - Olivia Alboher & Avery Gay: So You Think You Can Dance: Their Untold Stories

    Olivia Alboher and Avery Gay offer an intimate look into their dance journeys, navigating through the challenges and triumphs of the industry. Olivia's early start in Broadway at 10 and her journey to creating dance content on TikTok gaining popularity and becoming a star. Avery started dancing in mommy class, then trained at the most prestigious ballet schools and competed on NBC’s World of Dance and So You Think You Can Dance. 

     

    As the conversation unfolds, insights into So You Think You Can Dance experience emerge, shedding light on the emotional toll of eliminations and the mental preparation required for such intense competitions. Both Olivia and Avery offer candid reflections on the highs and lows of their respective journeys, emphasizing the importance of resilience and self-belief in overcoming setbacks.



    The episode also touches upon the subjectivity of dance judging, the impact of editing choices on contestants' portrayal, and the necessity of mental toughness in the entertainment industry. Through personal anecdotes and shared experiences, Olivia, Avery, and Menina provide valuable lessons on navigating the dance world with determination and grace.



    Ultimately, the episode concludes with a message of encouragement and empowerment, urging listeners to pursue their dance dreams with unwavering dedication and a clear vision for the future.



    Show notes:




    06:57 - Dance career and friendship between two dancers.


    13:22 - How two contestants formed a strong bond on SYTYCD despite not knowing each other well beforehand.


    14:54 - Changes to SYTYCD, including new location and format.


    19:46 - Living in a house during SYTYCD, with mixed emotions and drama.


    22:12 - The challenges and experiences of competing on SYTYCD.


    28:16 - Mental preparation for SYTYCD.


    34:14 - SYTYCD elimination experiences and coping strategies.


    36:55 - TV shows and their editing choices affecting dancers' portrayal.


    41:17 - Lessons learned from SYTYCD


    46:35 - Mental toughness, rejection, and growth in the entertainment industry.




    1:00:00 - SYTYCD auditions and personal stories.


    1:04:40 - Making the top 10 on SYTYCD.


    1:09:25 - Pursuing a dance career with a vision board and goal setting.





    Olivia´s Biography:



    Olivia Alboher is a dancer, model, and social media star/influencer best known for her viral dance and flexibility trends on TikTok and Instagram where she holds a fanbase of over 2 million followers between the platforms.



    Olivia started dancing at age 2 and a half, and secured her first professional broadway credit in Billy Eliot the Musical by age 10 and has been dancing professionally ever since.



    Most currently, you can find Olivia on season 18 of So You Think You Can Dance on FOX and HULU. 



    Avery´s Biography:



    Avery Gay is from Scottsdale, Az and began performing and dancing at the age of 4 and was quickly hooked on the feeling she got from performing for an audience. 



    She was featured dancing with her partner on the Qualifiers, The Duals and The Cut for NBC World of Dance. Prior to that, she was featured as the youngest dancer to dance on pointe for a prime time TV show, NBC’s Little Big Shots and Fox’s So You Think You Can Dance.



    She has been fortunate to perform in more than 12 ballet galas worldwide. Allowing her to travel around the globe from Australia to Portugal. Notably she was honored to perform in the Stars of Today, Stars of Tomorrow Gala at the David H. Koch theater in New York after winning the gold medal for Classical Pas De Deux at YAGP Finals. In 2017, she was awarded The Dance Awards Junior Female Best Dancer.



    This was Avery’s second Best Dancer Title, been featured in several magazines including Dance Spirit Magazine.

    Avery will continue her training attending the University of Arizona.



    Connect on Social Media with Olivia:

    www.instagram.com/oliviaalboher/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@oliviaalboher





    Connect on Social Media

    • 1 hr 14 min
    18 - Clifford McGhee: From Raw Talent to Three Super Bowls – Dancing Beyond Training

    18 - Clifford McGhee: From Raw Talent to Three Super Bowls – Dancing Beyond Training

    Episode Summary:

    Clifford McGhee shares his remarkable journey from a dancer with no formal training to performing with icons like Usher, Beyonce, Destiny’s Child, Janet Jackson, Missy Elliott, Genuwine and Will Smith. Despite facing challenges such as lack of family support and financial resources, McGhee's determination propelled him forward.

    He recounts his own struggles in pursuing a dance career, including a 36-hour one way bus ride to LA in pursuit of his dreams. He emphasizes how relationships play a crucial role in the entertainment industry.

    The episode delves into the highs and lows of the music industry, sharing stories of triumph and tribulation. From navigating record deals to facing rejection, McGhee and Fortunato offer valuable insights into resilience and self-care amidst industry pressures.

    As the conversation progresses, topics such as dealing with setbacks, embracing second chances, and maintaining longevity in the dance industry are explored. McGhee stresses the importance of self-reflection, moral integrity, and personal growth.

    The discussion also touches on the differences between dancing and choreography, the preparation involved in the Super Bowl halftime performance with Usher, and the intricacies of dance career paths.

    In the end, listeners leave with words of encouragement and empowerment, highlighting the significance of self-love, authenticity, and perseverance in the pursuit of one's passion in the dance industry.



    Show notes:


    00:03 How the speaker started dancing and became a professional dancer despite no formal training.


    07:24 The importance of relationships in the entertainment industry, with a focus on the speaker's personal experiences.


    15:27 Music industry experiences and challenges.


    21:18 Resilience, self-care, and giving oneself grace in the face of life's challenges.


    24:35  Dealing with rejection and not getting excited until the job is done.


    29:21  Dealing with setbacks and trusting the journey.


    34:06  Embracing dance career at 39, with a second chance to perform at a high level.


    38:40  Longevity in the dance industry with a focus on self-care and personal choices.


    42:59  Overcoming height limitations in dance career.


    47:56  The differences between dancing and choreography.


    52:41  Turning down job offers, Super Bowl performances, and finding opportunities to shine.


    57:14  Preparation for Super Bowl halftime show performances.


    1:03:23  Dance career paths with industry professionals.





    Biography:

    Clifford McGhee, originally from St. Louis, Missouri, launched his dance career without formal training, relying on innate talent and determination. At just 17, he began dancing with Ginuwine, kickstarting collaborations with icons like Missy Elliott and Will Smith. His career soared when he performed at the VMA's with Janet Jackson, marking a pivotal moment.

    Throughout his journey, Clifford worked with acclaimed choreographers and assisted acts like Destiny's Child and Beyoncé, expanding his skill set. Transitioning to the music industry as a recording artist with Capital Records, he later ventured into acting with a recurring role on NBC's "Crowded."

    Diversifying his creative pursuits, Clifford explored screenwriting, producing three well-received films for television. He recently contributed to Oprah Winfrey's production of "The Color Purple."

    Maintaining a lasting collaboration with Usher, Clifford has been part of 3 Super Bowl Halftime Shows, including Usher, Kendrick Lamar and Missy Elliott. With over two decades of relentless dedication, Clifford exemplifies how persistence paves the way for enduring success.



    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.facebook.com/clifford.mcghee

    https://www.instagram.com/clifford_mcghee

    • 1 hr 11 min
    17 - Bloc Agent: James Coons: "Navigating Dance Careers"

    17 - Bloc Agent: James Coons: "Navigating Dance Careers"

    Episode Summary:

    In this episode of the Business of Dance podcast, host James Coons, a senior agent at Bloc Talent Agency, delves into his personal journey and insights into the dance industry. Coons reflects on his transition from a sports-oriented upbringing in Kentucky to discovering his passion for musical theater in high school, leading him to extensive travel with Disney and eventually to a fulfilling career as a dance agent.

    Throughout the episode, Coons emphasizes the importance of perseverance and clear decision-making in the casting process, as well as the significance of quality over quantity in agency expansion. He discusses the submission process for dancers, highlighting the need for effective communication and the submission of essential materials like resumes and footage.

    Coons also addresses the role of local agents for dancers outside major markets, stressing the importance of careful contract scrutiny and the cultivation of experience before venturing into larger cities. He touches upon industry standards for agent fees and advises young dancers to focus on building relationships within the industry from a young age.

    The episode further explores topics such as child talent agencies, the value of college dance programs, and the importance of self-care in maintaining a balanced dance career. Coons encourages dancers to find fulfillment outside of their craft, emphasizing the benefits of travel and diverse life experiences in enhancing artistic expression.

    As the episode concludes, Coons expresses gratitude for the opportunity to share his expertise and announces exciting developments within Bloc Talent Agency, showcasing the dynamic and supportive nature of the dance community.



    Show notes:


    0:03 Dance industry insights with agent James Coons.


    1:58 Transitioning from sports to musical theater.


    4:02 Passion for theater and dance, transition to casting agent.


    7:29 Casting process and agency work.


    13:22 Dance representation and marketing materials.


    16:42 Dance industry representation and local agents.


    19:22 Dance agencies, auditions, and relationships.


    25:08 Child talent agencies and auditions.


    27:15 Dance career paths and college vs. signing at 18.


    30:41 Career paths in the entertainment industry.


    37:03 College dance programs and their value.


    39:56 Dance agencies and parental involvement.


    42:26 Dance career development and self-care with industry expert James.



    Biography:

    James was born and raised in the small town of Paris, KY, and in 2009 he moved to LA to obtain his BFA in Musical Theatre.

    After graduating he worked with Walt Disney Company performing around the world including in Tokyo and Shanghai.

    Once back in LA he obtained his Bachelor of Science in Business and worked for Michael Donovan Casting for years and that is where he found his love for being on the other side of the table.

    For the past few years he has been building out the commercial and legit departments at Bloc Talent Agency and has a passion for developing emerging talent for the screen and stage.

    His other interests include seeing shows, traveling, working with children and just enjoying life.



    Website:

    https://www.blocagency.com/

    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/blocla/

    https://www.instagram.com/james_coons/

    https://www.facebook.com/james.coons.9

    • 48 min

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