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Welcome to the 'Business of Dance' with your host Menina Fortunato. Tune in as we dive into insightful interviews with industry experts, sharing personal journeys and career advice for aspiring pro dancers. This podcast is your key to turning your dance dreams into reality.

The Business of Dance MENINA FORTUNATO

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Welcome to the 'Business of Dance' with your host Menina Fortunato. Tune in as we dive into insightful interviews with industry experts, sharing personal journeys and career advice for aspiring pro dancers. This podcast is your key to turning your dance dreams into reality.

    20 - Angela Elgani: Touring with Britney Spears & Backstreet Boys

    20 - Angela Elgani: Touring with Britney Spears & Backstreet Boys

    Episode Summary:

    In this episode, Angela Elgani shares her insights into the dance industry, emphasizing the significance of networking. Starting as an eager newcomer to the dance scene, Angela recounts her journey of attending events and classes to forge key connections. She reflects on the thrilling yet demanding nature of her first tour and provides practical tips for dancers to stand out in auditions, highlighting the necessity of a distinct style or "sauce."

    Angela speaks candidly about facing rejection, such as missing out on opportunities to dance for icons like Janet Jackson or Madonna, underscoring resilience as an essential trait for dancers. Despite these setbacks, her successful engagements with top-tier artists like the Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears underline her achievements.

    The episode concludes with Angela advocating for mentorship and persistence in pursuing dance careers, offering motivation and advice to aspirants. Her narrative underscores the blend of grit, talent, and sometimes luck needed to succeed in the competitive realm of dance.

    Listeners, from novices to pros, will find Angela's experiences and guidance invaluable for their own dance aspirations in this enlightening podcast episode.



    Show Notes:




    00:07:45 The Importance of Networking in Dance


    00:09:53 The Role of Agencies


    00:15:23 Preparing for Stage Performances


    00:16:43 The Thrill and Challenges of First Tour Rehearsals


    00:29:10 Standing Out in a Crowd


    00:30:53 The Art of "Putting Sauce" on Dance


    00:38:01 The Importance of Social Engagements in Networking


    00:48:00 Overcoming Disappointments in the Dance Industry


    00:55:34 Closing Remarks and Future Aspirations





    Biography:

    Angela Elgani is a name that resonates with creativity, passion, and a relentless drive for excellence. She is a multifaceted talent, known for her work as a dancer, creative director, choreographer, host, and actress. Angela has been in the limelight for her collaborations with some of the biggest names in the entertainment industry, including Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys.

    While there is limited information about her early life, Angela's career trajectory speaks volumes about her talent. She has been a part of some of the most iconic tours and performances, including Britney Spears' "Dream With a Dream Tour" from 2002-2005 and the Backstreet Boys from 1999-2000. Her skills are not just confined to dancing; she has also made her mark as a creative director and choreographer.

    Angela's versatility is evident from her work in films like 'Step Up Revolution' (2012) and 'You Got Served' (2004). She has also worked with the Jonas Brothers, further solidifying her reputation as a versatile talent in the industry.



    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.facebook.com/public/Angela-Maria-Elgani

    https://www.instagram.com/xoxoangela_elgani/

    • 56 min
    19 - Olivia Alboher & Avery Gay: So You Think You Can Dance: Their Untold Stories

    19 - Olivia Alboher & Avery Gay: So You Think You Can Dance: Their Untold Stories

    Olivia Alboher and Avery Gay offer an intimate look into their dance journeys, navigating through the challenges and triumphs of the industry. Olivia's early start in Broadway at 10 and her journey to creating dance content on TikTok gaining popularity and becoming a star. Avery started dancing in mommy class, then trained at the most prestigious ballet schools and competed on NBC’s World of Dance and So You Think You Can Dance. 

     

    As the conversation unfolds, insights into So You Think You Can Dance experience emerge, shedding light on the emotional toll of eliminations and the mental preparation required for such intense competitions. Both Olivia and Avery offer candid reflections on the highs and lows of their respective journeys, emphasizing the importance of resilience and self-belief in overcoming setbacks.



    The episode also touches upon the subjectivity of dance judging, the impact of editing choices on contestants' portrayal, and the necessity of mental toughness in the entertainment industry. Through personal anecdotes and shared experiences, Olivia, Avery, and Menina provide valuable lessons on navigating the dance world with determination and grace.



    Ultimately, the episode concludes with a message of encouragement and empowerment, urging listeners to pursue their dance dreams with unwavering dedication and a clear vision for the future.



    Show notes:




    06:57 - Dance career and friendship between two dancers.


    13:22 - How two contestants formed a strong bond on SYTYCD despite not knowing each other well beforehand.


    14:54 - Changes to SYTYCD, including new location and format.


    19:46 - Living in a house during SYTYCD, with mixed emotions and drama.


    22:12 - The challenges and experiences of competing on SYTYCD.


    28:16 - Mental preparation for SYTYCD.


    34:14 - SYTYCD elimination experiences and coping strategies.


    36:55 - TV shows and their editing choices affecting dancers' portrayal.


    41:17 - Lessons learned from SYTYCD


    46:35 - Mental toughness, rejection, and growth in the entertainment industry.




    1:00:00 - SYTYCD auditions and personal stories.


    1:04:40 - Making the top 10 on SYTYCD.


    1:09:25 - Pursuing a dance career with a vision board and goal setting.





    Olivia´s Biography:



    Olivia Alboher is a dancer, model, and social media star/influencer best known for her viral dance and flexibility trends on TikTok and Instagram where she holds a fanbase of over 2 million followers between the platforms.



    Olivia started dancing at age 2 and a half, and secured her first professional broadway credit in Billy Eliot the Musical by age 10 and has been dancing professionally ever since.



    Most currently, you can find Olivia on season 18 of So You Think You Can Dance on FOX and HULU. 



    Avery´s Biography:



    Avery Gay is from Scottsdale, Az and began performing and dancing at the age of 4 and was quickly hooked on the feeling she got from performing for an audience. 



    She was featured dancing with her partner on the Qualifiers, The Duals and The Cut for NBC World of Dance. Prior to that, she was featured as the youngest dancer to dance on pointe for a prime time TV show, NBC’s Little Big Shots and Fox’s So You Think You Can Dance.



    She has been fortunate to perform in more than 12 ballet galas worldwide. Allowing her to travel around the globe from Australia to Portugal. Notably she was honored to perform in the Stars of Today, Stars of Tomorrow Gala at the David H. Koch theater in New York after winning the gold medal for Classical Pas De Deux at YAGP Finals. In 2017, she was awarded The Dance Awards Junior Female Best Dancer.



    This was Avery’s second Best Dancer Title, been featured in several magazines including Dance Spirit Magazine.

    Avery will continue her training attending the University of Arizona.



    Connect on Social Media with Olivia:

    www.instagram.com/oliviaalboher/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@oliviaalboher





    Connect on Social Media

    • 1 hr 14 min
    18 - Clifford McGhee: From Raw Talent to Three Super Bowls – Dancing Beyond Training

    18 - Clifford McGhee: From Raw Talent to Three Super Bowls – Dancing Beyond Training

    Episode Summary:

    Clifford McGhee shares his remarkable journey from a dancer with no formal training to performing with icons like Usher, Beyonce, Destiny’s Child, Janet Jackson, Missy Elliott, Genuwine and Will Smith. Despite facing challenges such as lack of family support and financial resources, McGhee's determination propelled him forward.

    He recounts his own struggles in pursuing a dance career, including a 36-hour one way bus ride to LA in pursuit of his dreams. He emphasizes how relationships play a crucial role in the entertainment industry.

    The episode delves into the highs and lows of the music industry, sharing stories of triumph and tribulation. From navigating record deals to facing rejection, McGhee and Fortunato offer valuable insights into resilience and self-care amidst industry pressures.

    As the conversation progresses, topics such as dealing with setbacks, embracing second chances, and maintaining longevity in the dance industry are explored. McGhee stresses the importance of self-reflection, moral integrity, and personal growth.

    The discussion also touches on the differences between dancing and choreography, the preparation involved in the Super Bowl halftime performance with Usher, and the intricacies of dance career paths.

    In the end, listeners leave with words of encouragement and empowerment, highlighting the significance of self-love, authenticity, and perseverance in the pursuit of one's passion in the dance industry.



    Show notes:


    00:03 How the speaker started dancing and became a professional dancer despite no formal training.


    07:24 The importance of relationships in the entertainment industry, with a focus on the speaker's personal experiences.


    15:27 Music industry experiences and challenges.


    21:18 Resilience, self-care, and giving oneself grace in the face of life's challenges.


    24:35  Dealing with rejection and not getting excited until the job is done.


    29:21  Dealing with setbacks and trusting the journey.


    34:06  Embracing dance career at 39, with a second chance to perform at a high level.


    38:40  Longevity in the dance industry with a focus on self-care and personal choices.


    42:59  Overcoming height limitations in dance career.


    47:56  The differences between dancing and choreography.


    52:41  Turning down job offers, Super Bowl performances, and finding opportunities to shine.


    57:14  Preparation for Super Bowl halftime show performances.


    1:03:23  Dance career paths with industry professionals.





    Biography:

    Clifford McGhee, originally from St. Louis, Missouri, launched his dance career without formal training, relying on innate talent and determination. At just 17, he began dancing with Ginuwine, kickstarting collaborations with icons like Missy Elliott and Will Smith. His career soared when he performed at the VMA's with Janet Jackson, marking a pivotal moment.

    Throughout his journey, Clifford worked with acclaimed choreographers and assisted acts like Destiny's Child and Beyoncé, expanding his skill set. Transitioning to the music industry as a recording artist with Capital Records, he later ventured into acting with a recurring role on NBC's "Crowded."

    Diversifying his creative pursuits, Clifford explored screenwriting, producing three well-received films for television. He recently contributed to Oprah Winfrey's production of "The Color Purple."

    Maintaining a lasting collaboration with Usher, Clifford has been part of 3 Super Bowl Halftime Shows, including Usher, Kendrick Lamar and Missy Elliott. With over two decades of relentless dedication, Clifford exemplifies how persistence paves the way for enduring success.



    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.facebook.com/clifford.mcghee

    https://www.instagram.com/clifford_mcghee

    • 1 hr 11 min
    17 - Bloc Agent: James Coons: "Navigating Dance Careers"

    17 - Bloc Agent: James Coons: "Navigating Dance Careers"

    Episode Summary:

    In this episode of the Business of Dance podcast, host James Coons, a senior agent at Bloc Talent Agency, delves into his personal journey and insights into the dance industry. Coons reflects on his transition from a sports-oriented upbringing in Kentucky to discovering his passion for musical theater in high school, leading him to extensive travel with Disney and eventually to a fulfilling career as a dance agent.

    Throughout the episode, Coons emphasizes the importance of perseverance and clear decision-making in the casting process, as well as the significance of quality over quantity in agency expansion. He discusses the submission process for dancers, highlighting the need for effective communication and the submission of essential materials like resumes and footage.

    Coons also addresses the role of local agents for dancers outside major markets, stressing the importance of careful contract scrutiny and the cultivation of experience before venturing into larger cities. He touches upon industry standards for agent fees and advises young dancers to focus on building relationships within the industry from a young age.

    The episode further explores topics such as child talent agencies, the value of college dance programs, and the importance of self-care in maintaining a balanced dance career. Coons encourages dancers to find fulfillment outside of their craft, emphasizing the benefits of travel and diverse life experiences in enhancing artistic expression.

    As the episode concludes, Coons expresses gratitude for the opportunity to share his expertise and announces exciting developments within Bloc Talent Agency, showcasing the dynamic and supportive nature of the dance community.



    Show notes:


    0:03 Dance industry insights with agent James Coons.


    1:58 Transitioning from sports to musical theater.


    4:02 Passion for theater and dance, transition to casting agent.


    7:29 Casting process and agency work.


    13:22 Dance representation and marketing materials.


    16:42 Dance industry representation and local agents.


    19:22 Dance agencies, auditions, and relationships.


    25:08 Child talent agencies and auditions.


    27:15 Dance career paths and college vs. signing at 18.


    30:41 Career paths in the entertainment industry.


    37:03 College dance programs and their value.


    39:56 Dance agencies and parental involvement.


    42:26 Dance career development and self-care with industry expert James.



    Biography:

    James was born and raised in the small town of Paris, KY, and in 2009 he moved to LA to obtain his BFA in Musical Theatre.

    After graduating he worked with Walt Disney Company performing around the world including in Tokyo and Shanghai.

    Once back in LA he obtained his Bachelor of Science in Business and worked for Michael Donovan Casting for years and that is where he found his love for being on the other side of the table.

    For the past few years he has been building out the commercial and legit departments at Bloc Talent Agency and has a passion for developing emerging talent for the screen and stage.

    His other interests include seeing shows, traveling, working with children and just enjoying life.



    Website:

    https://www.blocagency.com/

    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/blocla/

    https://www.instagram.com/james_coons/

    https://www.facebook.com/james.coons.9

    • 48 min
    16 - Anthony Carr: The Cameleon: from Ballet companies, Broadway / Movie Musicals and Pop / Hip Hop World Tours

    16 - Anthony Carr: The Cameleon: from Ballet companies, Broadway / Movie Musicals and Pop / Hip Hop World Tours

    Episode Summary:



    Professional dancer and choreographer Anthony Carr shares insights from his career journey. Anthony's dance path began at age four, guided by his mother's influence as a dancer. He transitioned from ballet to hip hop, finding solace and freedom in the latter despite initial setbacks. 

    He reflects on his experiences in various dance schools and becoming an associate choreographer of The Wiz in NYC, emphasizing the role of mentors and support in his journey. 

    His story includes shifts from New York to Los Angeles, and even Canada working on films like Hairspray. He shares experiences of auditioning for TLC and touring with Corbin Bleu. 

    Anthony also touches on mentorship and parental support in dance, advising parents to give dancers space to learn and grow independently. He discusses choreography and working with directors, praising the skills of choreographers like Marguerite Derricks and Jamal Sims. Anthony's admiration for industry legends like Mikhail Baryshnikov and Michael Jackson is evident, showcasing his appreciation for their talent and impact.

    The episode concludes with Anthony encouraging dancers to embrace discomfort, take risks, and support each other, emphasizing the importance of staying passionate about the art form.



    Show notes:


    0:03 Dance industry insights and experiences.


    2:15 Dance career path and transition from ballet to hip hop.


    5:56 Dance career paths and financial sustainability.


    9:29 Dance career, business, and personal growth.


    16:35 Dance motivation and rejection.


    19:44 Dance career paths and experiences.


    26:43 Dance mentorship and parental support.


    29:33 Choreography and working with various directors.


    36:13 Dance career inspiration and industry legends.


    39:25 Dance career paths and industry insights.


    45:41 Transitioning from competition dancer to industry professional.


    48:36 Dance choreography and training with a professional.


    53:50 Dance training and career sustainability.


    57:14 Dance career, inspiration, and advice with Broadway choreographer Anthony Morigerato.





    Biography:

    Born and raised in the Bronx, Anthony "Kanec" Carr emerges as a distinguished figure in the global arts scene, renowned for his prowess as a dancer, choreographer, and actor. His journey commenced at New York City's prestigious School of American Ballet, demonstrating early on his unwavering commitment to his craft.

    Simultaneously, he pursued his education at the Professional Performing Arts School (PPAS), showcasing a dedication to both his artistic and academic pursuits. This dual focus propelled his growth, culminating in a fusion of exceptional raw talent and intensive technical training in ballet, tap, jazz, musical theatre, and hip hop by the age of 17.

    Kanec swiftly found himself gracing the stage alongside multi-platinum selling recording artists such as Justin Bieber, Missy Elliott, Usher, Chris Brown, Cardi B, and TLC, among other illustrious names.

    His portfolio boasts featured roles in prominent movies and television shows, including notable appearances in Step Up 1 & 3, FAME, Hairspray, the Justin Bieber 3D Movie, and Glee. His stage presence has illuminated celebrated venues like the Grammys and the Oscars, as well as various other prestigious musical award ceremonies.

    Kanec's creative genius extends to choreography, where his artistry has enriched the work of acclaimed artists like Neyo, Eric Bellinger, and Daddy Yankee. His choreographic creations have been showcased on televised events such as "So You Think You Can Dance," attesting to his ability to craft compelling movement narratives.

    Currently contributing to the choreography team for Broadway's "The Wiz" in NYC, Kanec's journey exemplifies a lifelong passion for dance, choreography, and the performing arts. 



    Website: 

    Kanec Carr | IDC Official Site (innovationdancecenter.com)

    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/klassikkanec/

    https://www.

    • 1 hr 3 min
    15 - Mic Thompson: "Trick of All Trades: Michael Jackson, Ballroom Dancing, Disney, Las Vegas & Paris Extravaganzas, & more"

    15 - Mic Thompson: "Trick of All Trades: Michael Jackson, Ballroom Dancing, Disney, Las Vegas & Paris Extravaganzas, & more"

    Episode Summary:

    In this Business of Dance podcast episode, Mic Thompson, shares his extensive career journey. Starting with ballroom dancing, Thompson progressed to TV shows, Las Vegas performances, and a memorable impromptu gig in South Africa. 

    He recounts his path from working with Debbie Allen on the tv show “Fame” to becoming a main choreographer after starting as a Disney performer. A key episode highlight is Thompson's 1993 Michael Jackson audition, leading to a lasting professional and creative partnership.

    The discussion delves into the dance industry's dynamics, emphasizing the importance of relationships and networking, illustrated by anecdotes like Chris Judd's engagement through Mic's recommendation. Thompson reflects on significant career achievements, including choreographing for Disney and evolving dance choreography, notably for Michael Jackson’s "Ghost."

    The episode also covers Thompson's experiences with Las Vegas extravaganzas and training Chinese dancers, along with his involvement in projects like Pirates of the Caribbean. 

    The episode concludes with a surprise guest and Mic’s thoughts on the dance industry's history and the power of collaboration.



    Show Notes:


     0:03 Dance industry insights and experiences with a legendary choreographer.


     3:44 Ballroom dancing and Las Vegas show auditions.


     6:46 Early dance career in Las Vegas and South Africa.


     11:41 Dance career, Fame TV show, and industry experiences.


     15:40 Michael Jackson's Neverland theme park in the metaverse.


     20:33 Michael Jackson's dance crew and Nick Thompson's role.


     23:21 Dance industry, relationships, and Michael Jackson's short film.


     28:50 Dance career highlights and experiences.


     34:25 Dance choreography and performances.


     38:45 Dance careers, Vegas shows, and international choreography.


     43:34 Dance career, advice, and Pirates of the Caribbean experience.


     49:14 Building relationships and paving the way for a dance career.


     55:40 Building intentional relationships in the entertainment industry.


     1:01:37 Dance industry history and collaboration.



    Biography:

    Mic Thompson, a versatile choreographer, has made a significant impact on the entertainment industry. Known for his versatility, Mic was a guest choreographer for the Las Vegas School District (CCSD) Dance Festival, creating a dazzling "BOLLYWOOD" Pop production and "NEWSIES."

    Over his 25-year career, Mic has worked with clients like Walt Disney Animation, Disneyland, Universal Studios, Royal Caribbean, NBC, FOX, IBM, and Caesars Entertainment. Dubbed the "Trick of all Trades" by Dance Spirit Magazine, he seamlessly transitions between dance styles and mediums. His credits include stage shows for Disney/Pixar films, performances at Barneys New York Disney Electric Holiday Event, and choreographing for Disney Theatrical Regional Broadway productions like "Tarzan." Internationally, he showcased his talents at the Lido De Paris Theatre in "Bonheur" Extravaganza.

    Mic's contributions to choreography have been recognized with awards such as the Southern California Best Choreography Award in 2018 and a nomination for "Best Choreography On The Las Vegas Strip" for his work in "BITE" at the Stratosphere. Collaborating with Michael Jackson from 1997 to 2001 was a highlight, performing internationally and nationally, leaving their mark on award TV shows like the AMA and MTV. His tribute show, "The Ultimate Thriller-MJ Tribute Spectacular," has traveled worldwide, honoring the music legend.

    Mic's enduring legacy is seen in the MICTENDO inner-active illuminated dance routine, performed by the BYU World Formation Ballroom Dance Team Champions. Mic Thompson's career showcases his talent, versatility, and dedication to the art of choreography.



    Website: www.micsmatch.com



    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/micthompson/

    https://www.facebook.com/micsmatch

    • 1 hr 3 min

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