Flesh 'N Bold Nevin J. Heard, PhD and Nia Heard-Garris, MD, MSc

Are we here already? We are at the last episode of Flesh “N Bold plus Mom. During this episode, Drs. Heard & Heard-Garris round out the retirement series by talking to their mother about her legacy and the impact she hopes to have had on others. What lessons has she carried with her about wealth, life, and giving? How do wealth transfers work for Black women and does quality of life change as we age? Even more questions…What will your legacy be? Take a listen, talk to your friends, your family, and your future self about what legacy means to you. As Drs. Heard & Heard-Garris wind down, but also ramp up, please like, share, and discuss!
Producers: Nevin J. Heard and Nia J. Heard-Garris
Music: “Clay”; “LA”; “Sneak Chase” by Podington Bear
References
Inherited Prospects: The Importance of Financial Transfers for White and Black College‐Educated Households’ Wealth Trajectories - Taylor - 2018 - The American Journal of Economics and Sociology - Wiley Online Library
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-3547143/v1
‘This is How you Will Make It’: Mothers, Othermothers, and Black Women’s Family Financial Socialization
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/euiinb7ww35bzqlxdbfvy/Mothering_While_Black_Boundaries_and_Bur.pdf?rlkey=vq4m15h702zl03otjwpjg6dbz&dl=0
Quality of Life Satisfaction Among Black Women 75 Years and Older

We know, we know, no one wants to talk about the end of life, death, or dying. But we are all going to die at some point, so let’s put it all out in the open. How do the aged population think about death? Do they get lonely when those around them cross to the other side? Drs. Heard & Heard-Garris explore their mothers’ experiences and feelings of grief, loss, and the trope of being a “strong Black woman.” In this episode of Flesh 'N Bold, our hosts explore who helps the helper b.k.a the strong Black woman, when she needs help, what about what to do when the future you expected is taken from you, and how do you avoid isolation? Listen up, grab your friends, your family, and your significant others and let Drs. Heard & Heard-Garris walk you through this interesting penultimate act with their mothers. And always, please like, share, and discuss!
Producers: Nevin J. Heard and Nia J. Heard-Garris
Music: “Clay”; “LA”; “Sneak Chase” by Podington Bear
References
Mourning me: An interpretive description of grief and identity loss in older adults with mild cognitive impairment (MCI) (uvic.ca)
Disenfranchised Grief and Nonfinite Loss as Experienced by the Families of Death Row Inmates - Sandra J. Jones, Elizabeth Beck, 2007 (sagepub.com)
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C24&as_vis=1&q=help-seeking+behaviors+of+Black+women&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1714084107992&u=%23p%3DS8Z9q15Wt9oJ
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C24&as_vis=1&q=grief%2C+strong+Black+women&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1714084424140&u=%23p%3DQSZPuW9cEegJ
https://www.caregiver.org/news/tips-supporting-senior-widowed-parent/
https://www.google.com/search?q=Nonfinite+grief+AND+aging&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS893US893&oq=Nonfinite+grief+AND+aging&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigAdIBCDMwMjVqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

In this part two episode of health and retirement Drs. Heard & Heard-Garris continue their discussion on healthcare. Our dynamic duo picks right back up in this conversation with their mother on government-sponsored insurance and how the intersectionality of age, race, and gender shape healthcare experiences. And Dr. Heard-Garris gives us a first-hand account of her struggles. And it's clear Knuck if you buck was more than a song for her. Do doctors never listen? Does Black peoples’ pain matter? Should you ever go to the doctor alone? Here is the episode, you've been waiting for…so, please don’t forget to like, share, and discuss!
Producers: Nevin J. Heard and Nia J. Heard-Garris
Music: “Clay”; “Dancing on the Talkfloor"; "Elephants On Parade"; "Gentle Chase"; "LA”; “Pythagoras"; by Podington Bear
References
Chrisler, J. C., Barney, A., & Palatino, B. (2016). Ageism can be hazardous to women's health: Ageism, sexism, and stereotypes of older women in the healthcare system. Journal of Social Issues, 72(1), 86-104.
Hansen, B. R., Hodgson, N. A., & Gitlin, L. N. (2016). It’sa matter of trust: Older African Americans speak about their health care encounters. Journal of Applied Gerontology, 35(10), 1058-1076.
Kosiak, B., Sangl, J., & Correa-de-Araujo, R. (2006). Quality of health care for older women: what do we know?. Women's health issues, 16(2), 89-99.
Myers, D., & Trad, M. (2021). Narratives of Older Black Women Communicating With Health Care Professionals. Radiation Therapist, 30(1).
[pregnancy– may not use ]- Mehra, R., Boyd, L. M., Magriples, U., Kershaw, T. S., Ickovics, J. R., & Keene, D. E. (2020). Black pregnant women “get the most judgment”: A qualitative study of the experiences of Black women at the intersection of race, gender, and pregnancy. Women's Health Issues, 30(6), 484-492
https://www-tandfonline-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/doi/full/10.1080/10410236.2021.1888453
https://www-tandfonline-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/doi/abs/10.1080/073993399245764
https://onlinelibrary-wiley-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/doi/full/10.1111/1467-9566.12141
https://www-sciencedirect-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/science/article/pii/S0277953622002891

Is healthcare in retirement the promised land? You have retired, kicking up your feet, on Medicaid, and living la vida loca, right?  Drs. Heard & Heard-Garris continue their retirement expose with their mother, documenting her journey. There was so much in this episode of Flesh 'N Bold, they had no choice, but to create a two-part episode series. Our dynamic duo explores her experience with government-sponsored insurance and tackles age, race, and gender and the intersectionality of it all. To cure or to care, is there any hope to have both things in the US healthcare system? Why is healthcare a full-time job in retirement?  Take a listen, think about your own healthcare experiences, and see what you think. Don’t forget, babyyyyyyyy, they are just getting started. Part II is yet to come. In the meantime, please don’t forget to like, share, and discuss!
Producers: Nevin J. Heard and Nia J. Heard-Garris 
Music: “Clay”; “LA”; “Sneak Chase” by Podington Bear
References
Chrisler, J. C., Barney, A., & Palatino, B. (2016). Ageism can be hazardous to women's health: Ageism, sexism, and stereotypes of older women in the healthcare system. Journal of Social Issues, 72(1), 86-104.
Hansen, B. R., Hodgson, N. A., & Gitlin, L. N. (2016). It’sa matter of trust: Older African Americans speak about their health care encounters. Journal of Applied Gerontology, 35(10), 1058-1076.
Kosiak, B., Sangl, J., & Correa-de-Araujo, R. (2006). Quality of health care for older women: what do we know?. Women's health issues, 16(2), 89-99.
Myers, D., & Trad, M. (2021). Narratives of Older Black Women Communicating With Health Care Professionals. Radiation Therapist, 30(1).
[pregnancy– may not use ]- Mehra, R., Boyd, L. M., Magriples, U., Kershaw, T. S., Ickovics, J. R., & Keene, D. E. (2020). Black pregnant women “get the most judgment”: A qualitative study of the experiences of Black women at the intersection of race, gender, and pregnancy. Women's Health Issues, 30(6), 484-492
https://www-tandfonline-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/doi/full/10.1080/10410236.2021.1888453
https://www-tandfonline-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/doi/abs/10.1080/073993399245764
https://onlinelibrary-wiley-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/doi/full/10.1111/1467-9566.12141
https://www-sciencedirect-com.turing.library.northwestern.edu/science/article/pii/S0277953622002891

Drs. Heard & Heard-Garris have firmly launched into the new year, but Flesh & Bold wouldn’t be Flesh & Bold, without a Year ‘N Review episode. They give you their take on the top events of 2023–from the most talked-about political and cultural events including those that pushed you, had you crying, and others that had you laughing. Dr. Heard-Garris mispronounces ERAS and Dr. Heard, gives us his hot take on Tay-Tay and the Barbie. Wanna guess which events they choose to highlight and why? Which events were most salient for you? Let’s see if you agree with our hosts. Please don’t forget to like, share, and discuss!
Producers: Nevin J. Heard and Nia J. Heard-Garris
Music: “Clay”; “LA”; “Sneak Chase” by Podington Bear
References
https://www.shrm.org/topics-tools/employment-law-compliance/affirmative-action-supreme-court-cases
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/29/1181138066/affirmative-action-supreme-court-decision
https://www.naacpldf.org/case-issue/sffa-v-harvard-faq/#:~:text=SFFA%20is%20an%20organization%20led,the%20landmark%20case%20Fisher%20v.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-year-in-review-top-news-stories-of-2023-month-by-month/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-vote-matt-gaetz-kevin-mccarthy-motion-to-vacate-watch-live-stream-today-2023-10-03/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-year-in-review-top-news-stories-of-2023-month-by-month/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-year-in-review-top-news-stories-of-2023-month-by-month/

Happy Holidays! Happy New Year!
Our Flesh ‘N Bold hosts, Drs. Heard & Heard-Garris are here to help you close the year out by discussing LOVE. In this episode, the good professors talk about love for the aged, using their mom's perspective about love and her NEW relationship as a case study. Where do we get our models of romantic love from, what are our standards for a partner, and how do we show up in these relationships? Dr. Heard wonders if standards in our "younger" years change as we move into our "older" years, and if older people really want commitment? Our hosts infuse research (as usual) to round out the conversation with companionship, money, and loneliness. And Mom imparts some wisdom to the listeners about love, "buy the cow and her partner needs to pay for everything." Keep listening for more pearls in colorful language that only she uniquely can offer. And as usual, please don’t forget to like, share, and discuss!
Producers: Nevin J. Heard and Nia J. Heard-Garris
Music: “Clay”; “LA”; “Sneak Chase” by Podington Bear
References:
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2003-04524-003https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3848887/https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6404340/https://ihpi.umich.edu/news/health-plays-role-older-adults-vulnerability-scams-poll-suggests#:~:text=About%2050%25%20of%20older%20adults,no%20limits%20on%20their%20daily