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【聊了什么The What】

英国导演Alex Garland的新作《美国内战》(Civil War)以一场虚构的美国内战为背景，引发了广泛关注和争议。作为A24迄今为止最大制作，电影集全明星阵容和炫目视效于一身，更因触及当下美国社会分裂、政治极化的议题而备受瞩目。然而，电影却避开了最敏感的政治问题，转而以四名战地记者为主角展开叙事，聚焦新闻伦理和人性挣扎，也因此被批评为避重就轻。
在本期节目中，疲惫娇娃的两个女的与美轮美换的主播Lokin和小华一起，探讨以下问题：在战争中，镜头背后是新闻理想主义的湮灭，还是人性的回归？在信息过载的时代，我们是否还有余力正视战争和苦难的真相？摄影和报道究竟能否改变世界，抑或终将被时代洪流所淹没？影片刻意模糊了内战的起因和立场，这是否在鼓吹一种危险的相对主义，还是向观众传达了更有价值的提醒？

大选将至，如果你也想要和我们四个女的一样收到优秀的关于美国大选的中文内容，欢迎加入美轮美换最新推出的会员计划：https://theamericanroulette.com/paid-membership/

Alex Garland's latest film, "Civil War," was set against a fictional war between two different factions within the United States. The film has sparked considerable controversy. It explores America’s political reality through the lenses (zing!) of four war correspondents, centering on journalistic ethics and the struggles of the human condition, but somehow sidestepping all of the more contentious, real political issues currently dividing America. We were not sure if we liked this artistic choice, so we recorded an episode with our friends from 美轮美换 The American Roulette to process it.
Do we like Alex Garland’s decision to obscure the causes of the war? Why do we need photojournalism? Do we still have the capacity to process the harsh realities of conflict and suffering, and hold complexities in this age of social media?

With the election around the corner, if you would also like to receive high quality Chinese content on US politics, please consider joining American Roulette's membership program: https://theamericanroulette.com/paid-membership/

【时间轴 The When】


00:01:44 介绍播客《美轮美换》及其关注的2024年美国大选。


00:03:54 讨论电影《美国内战》Civil War的情节和导演Alex Garland的作品。


00:16:13 Alex Garland导演对战地记者职业的矛盾心理刻画


00:41:06 电影对种族主义暴力的直白展现


00:49:06 导演在政治立场上的模糊态度引发争议


00:56:22 战争带来的不确定感和混乱感


01:02:09 摄影记者的自我矛盾：记录还是介入?


01:09:24 社交媒体时代，记者的责任与观众的责任


01:16:08 前辈记者对后辈的无奈：这一行太苦，但拦不住你


01:18:03 尽管科技发达，战争的荒谬感依旧没变


00:01:44 Introduction of the podcast “ American Roulette” and its focus on the 2024 U.S. presidential election


00:03:54 Discussion of the plot of "Civil War" and the works of director Alex Garland


00:16:13 Alex Garland's portrayal of the conflicting psychology of war correspondents


00:41:06 Blunt portrayal of racist violence


00:49:06 Alex Garland did not take a stand but do we need him to?


00:56:22 The uncertainty and chaos of war


01:02:09 The self-contradiction of photojournalists: to document or to intervene?


01:09:24 In the age of social media, the responsibility of journalists and the responsibility of the audience


01:16:08 Senior journalists' helplessness towards their juniors: This profession causes inevitable moral or physical injuries, but they can't stop people from joining


01:18:03 Despite advances in technology, the absurdity of war remains unchanged



【疲惫红书 CyberRed】

除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在

【聊了什么The What】

这是“Wife三部曲"的最后一集，这个系列以我们最最熟悉的“妻子”这个社会职能为圆心，画一个谨慎的半径，这个半径包括我们的思考和恐惧，包括作为妻子意味着什么。

然而这期播客可能是我们四个在人生这个阶段录的最重要的一期播客之一 —— 这期播客让我们反思了作为一个有强烈创作欲望，但同时有妻子和母职需要履行的女性应该如何兼容这这些极端的角色。

为了准备这期播客，我们一起读了三本关于女性创作的书：讲述奥威尔妻子艾琳的Wifedom，讲述作家乔治·艾略特的The Marriage Question，和讲述“成为怪物的艺术家”的Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma。许多伟大的男性艺术家背后都有默默付出的妻子，而女性一旦成为母亲往往就被吸干注意力，失去创作的空间。这三本书中被抹去的女性、挣扎的女性、和小心翼翼担忧成为怪物母亲的女性们，都在试探着自我实现和作为妻子/母亲这两者的边界。

同时，我们也通过观察Ursula Le Guin等等女性作者的生命历程和创作历程拷问"伟大的母亲"的角色。当一个伟大的母亲需要为了自己的创作而"离开"，怎么办？在资本主义效率至上的逻辑下，母亲的付出被视为理所当然，价值也被剥夺，但我们是否应该反思和重估母职劳动的价值？

This is the final episode of the "Wife Trilogy," a series that takes the highly familiar social role of the "wife" as its central focus. This topic encompasses our contemplations on the profound implications of being a wife.

However, this podcast episode may well be one of the most significant we have recorded at this stage of our lives. It prompts us to reflect on how an individual with a fervent creative drive can possibly reconcile with the rigid social demands of that of a wife.

In preparation, we collectively delved into three books exploring women's creative pursuits: "Wifedom," chronicling the story of Eileen, the wife of George Orwell; "The Marriage Question," illuminating the private life of novelist George Eliot; and "Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma," examining the notion of the "monstrous female artist." Many great male artists have benefited from the silent sacrifices of their wives, while women, upon becoming mothers, often find their creative energies drained and mental space constricted.

By observing the lives and creative trajectories of women authors such as Ursula Le Guin, among others, we interrogate the notion of the "great mother." Can a good mother just "leave" to pursue her artistic endeavors? Under the capitalist system of efficiency, a mother's contributions are taken for granted, their value stripped away. Should we not re-evaluate and reappraise the worth of maternal labor and how it is actually a fiercely and terrifyingly intellectual pursuit?

【时间轴 The When】

06:50 Wifedom：作家奥威尔的妻子艾琳为他创造写作条件，自己的才华却被埋没, 自己的存在被抹去

19:00 The Marriage Question：女性作家乔治·艾略特挑战传统，但也试图符合把自己塞入拧巴的”人妻“角色

30:50 Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma: 女性艺术家最大的"罪行"被视为忽视不好好做一个母亲

39:00 母职和创作是一个互不兼容的死结吗？

51:30 Ursula Le Guin：重新审视持家和养育的意义，它是人类最古老、最伟大、最重要、也对智识要求最高的的劳作

06:50 Wifedom: Story of Eileen O‘Shaughnessy, how she created the conditions for George Orwell’s writing while her own talents were buried

19:00 The Marriage Question: How George Eliot challenged societal traditions but also struggled to conform to society's expectations of a wife

30:50 Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma: The greatest crime of female artists is neglecting her children

39:00 Is balancing motherhood and creative work impos

【聊了什么 The What】

这是“Wife三部曲"的第二部，以我们最最熟悉的“妻子”这个社会职能为圆心，画一个谨慎的半径，这个半径包括我们的思考和恐惧，包括作为妻子意味着什么。

这集，我们聚焦王室妻子们——从流行文化痴迷的凯特王妃，戴安娜王妃，再到日本的皇室女性——她们的病痛、生育历程、和被大众注视和检验的体验是怎样的？她们的身体如何被媒体咀嚼和消化？她们的身体如何从走入“王室妻子”这一刻就不再属于自己？

凯特王妃的病痛疑云，揭开了她作为完美的王室妻子和母亲在“the firm”的监视和运转中的另一面，同时，戴安娜作为“the firm”反叛者、梅根作为出逃者，是如何被埋葬在王室妻子的角色中，同时被王室妻子这个头衔所惩罚。除去英国王室之外，日本和其他国家的王室女性如何生存？

This is the 2nd part of CyberPink’s "Wife trilogy.” Centering on the ubiquitous role of "wife," we cautiously circumscribe a boundary around it. Within this boundary lie our contemplations and fear, our ponderings on the implications of being a wife.

In this episode, our discussion is about royal wives - from Kate Middleton, the object of pop culture's adoration, to the legendary Princess Diana, to the women of Japan's imperial family. We explore their ordeals with illness, the tribulations of childbirth, and the scrutiny of the public eye. How are their bodies dissected and consumed by the media? From the moment they assume the mantle of "royal wife," how do their bodies cease to be their own?

The specter of Kate's ailments unveils another facet of her role as the quintessential royal wife and mother, meticulously observed and governed by the machinations of "the firm." Diana, the defiant rebel against "the firm," and Meghan, the escapee, find themselves entombed within the role of "royal wife," even as the very title exacts its punishing toll. Beyond the British monarchy, we ponder the plight of royal women in Japan and nations abroad - how do they persevere?

【时间轴 The When】

01:12 从凯特王妃的癌症疑云说起

06:50 凯特作为一个完美的英国女性、英国母亲的范本

12:26 王室女性的身体是国之重器，从来都不属于自己; 凯特似乎从未经历从”妻子“到”母亲“的不适的过渡

19:00 英国皇室“The firm” - 到底是什么？为什么在王室换个衣服的颜色都很难

22:00 戴安娜为什么被人念念不忘：王室如何压榨年轻的戴安娜，戴安娜如何和王室决裂、出逃？

30:50 当皇室的女性无法言说痛苦，她们身体会开始开始出现巨大问题，从日本皇室女性开始讲

47:30 年轻女性“交给”王室自己的身体会怎样？

51:30 王室身体和政治宣传

01:12 Beginning with the cloud of cancer suspicion surrounding Kate Middleton

06:50 Kate as the epitome of the perfect English woman and mother

12:26 A royal woman's body is an invaluable asset of the nation, never truly her own; Kate seems to have never experienced the uncomfortable transition from "wife" to "mother"

19:00 "The Firm" - what exactly is the British Royal Family? Why is it so difficult for them to even change the color of an outfit?

22:00 Why Diana is so fondly remembered: how the Royal Family exploited the young Diana, and how she broke away and escaped

30:50 When royal women cannot voice their pain, their bodies begin to manifest major issues, starting with women in the Japanese Imperial Family

47:30 What happens when a young woman "gives" her body to the Royal Family?

51:30 The royal body and political propaganda

【拓展链接 The Links】

The Unraveling of a Royal Fairytale

The Allure Of KateGate And Royal Conspiracies

Kate Middleton exists to smile for us

Royal Bodies

【疲惫红书 CyberRed】

除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在

【聊了什么The What】

戛纳电影节第四天，《疲惫娇娃》的一芳和《赶场 Way To Cinemas》播客的Selina在戛纳电影宫的天台坐了下来录制本期特辑节目，聊聊戛纳体验和目前看过的电影。

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剪辑和时间轴：陆小鸟，汤包（赶场）

主播：Selina（小红书 About Cannons）赶场 Way To Cinemas，一芳《疲惫娇娃 CyberPink》

On the fourth day of the 77th Cannes Film Festival, Yifang and Selina (host of Way To Cinemas) sat down to record this special episode, talking about their experience with the festival and the films they’ve seen so far. Thanks to douban.com for their support, you can now find our podcast on Douban.

【时间轴 The When】

00:45 好开心，竟然与《疲惫娇娃》联动上啦！

01:13 第一次来戛纳的一芳

03:07 开幕片《第二幕》

04:14 《原钻》（野性钻石）

06:08 《拿针的女孩》

08:08 《鸟》

09:12 《折射》

10:26 《一部未完成的电影》（本期内容不多，未来会再聊）

12:28 《大都会》“当一个男导演花太多时间去思考罗马帝国，就会拍出来这样一部电影”

14:42 《噢，加拿大》“他的故事，他的人生，他的一切，我根本就不想知道”

16:49 《善良的种类》

24:51 《狗镇》

26:51 《风流一代》

00:45 "Way to Cinemas" is excited to be collaborating with "Cyberpink"

01:13 Yifang's first time at Cannes

03:07 Opening Film: "The Second Act" by Quentin Dupieux

04:14 "Wild Diamond" by Agathe Riedinger

06:08 "The Girl with the Needle" by Magnus von Horn

08:08 《鸟》"Bird" by Andrea Arnold

09:12 《折射》Ljósbrot (When the Light Breaks) by Rúnar Rúnarsson

10:26 "An Unfinished Film"

12:28 "Megalopolis" by Francis Ford Coppola, "this is what happens when a male director spends too much time thinking about the Roman empire"

14:42 "Oh Canada" by Paul Schrader, "I could care less about the protagonist's story, his life, his everything"

16:49 "Kind of Kindness" by Yorgos Lanthimos

24:51 "Black Dog" by Guan Hu

26:51 "Caught in the Tides" by Jia Zhang-Ke

【疲惫红书 CyberRed】

除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。

Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

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【聊了什么The What】

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正文： 这是"疲惫娇娃Wife三部曲"的第一部，我们想聊聊近年来在社交媒体上备受关注的"Trad wife" (传统妻子) 现象。

20世纪50年代的美国郊区是一个我们都熟知的画面：白色别墅、核心家庭、金发红唇的家庭主妇形象在宽敞光洁的厨房中忙碌，这幅画面饱含着阶级和政治色彩。对于这样传统家庭、传统妻子的怀念变成了一场运动，近年重新出现在年轻女性的社交媒体中，形成了"Trad wife热潮"，影响越来越多年轻女性。”传统妻子“不仅是一种审美风格，更蕴含意识形态内涵以及一系列生活方式和宗教信仰。这股潮流的走红与当代女权主义相互碰撞，反映出女性在家庭、疫情、经济等层面所面临的困境,以及她们"拥抱传统"以求解脱的天真想法。

疲惫娇娃的几个娃将分析Trad wife在当代互联网上的细分门类（到底有多少种trad wife想卖给我们货???!!!)，以及不同年龄段受众人群的特点，以及这一兼具审美与意识形态内核的复杂现象。

Today we want to dive into the deep internet rabbit hole of "Trad Wife" -- short for traditional wife, this social media phenomenon has taken the world by storm, and we want to unpack it all.

To talk about trad wives, we first have to time travel back to the emergence of the American suburb in the post-war 1950s, the image of the white-picket-fence home, the nuclear family, and the blonde, ruby-lipped housewife that's imbued with class and political undertones. This visually evocative image has resurfaced in recent years on social media, sparking a discussion on the deeper socioeconomic and political undertones of the trad wife revival.

In this episode, we unpack how the trad wife trend is not merely an aesthetic style but also an ideological core with a religious and politically conservative undertone. The rise of this online movement has collided with contemporary feminism, reflecting the challenges women face on various fronts, including balancing family and work, surviving the pandemic, participating in the economy, as well as their naïve embrace of tradition as a means of emancipation.

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【时间轴 The When】

0:00 “美国娇妻” trad wife是一种寄居在社交媒体和年轻人头脑中的意识形态

3:23 市面上有哪些不同的trad wife？

06:00 大人糖产品部分

14:44 社交媒体上的娇妻生活为什么有如此大的吸引力？娇妻生活的美学对

【聊了什么The What】

等等，先别划走。就算你对篮球的知识仅限于篮球是圆的，这可能依旧是一期有趣的播客。

体育从来都不止关于体育，竞技体育从来都是流行文化的塑造者也被时代的思潮所塑造。如果你也关注美国竞技体育，尤其是篮球，很难不感受到一个巨大的女子篮球浪潮正在袭来。谁能想到从2019年至今，电视观看人数最高的篮球比赛是大学女篮的总决赛？1870万人次的观看数字远远超越了过去几年NBA的总决赛（丹福掘金对不起），也在互联网上掀起了讨论的热潮。

女子篮球的崛起也与诸多社会议题息息相关。我们与The Athletic的小帆和布鲁克林篮网的思齐一起，聊了聊那些隐藏在数字和赛事之后备受关注的问题：女篮突破了哪些障碍才走到了今天这一步？是什么因素促成了这场变革？我们能从中窥见哪些值得关注的趋势？

Sports have never been merely about the games themselves; they shape the popular culture we engage with, from fashion to music, reflecting the cultural zeitgeist. Those who have been closely following American sports will have noticed the surging popularity of women's college basketball and its standout stars—Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, Paige Bueckers, Kamilla Cardoso, and many others. Remarkably, the 2024 NCAA Women's Basketball Championship was the most-watched basketball game on television since 2019, attracting a staggering 18.7 million viewers. This viewership even surpassed last year's NBA Finals (sorry, Nuggets), sparking widespread discussion both online and offline.

In this conversation, we talked to Yifan from The Athletic and Siqi from the Brooklyn Nets, and delved into the factors beyond mere statistics, exploring the obstacles these athletes had to overcome for women's basketball to achieve its current prominence.


【时间轴 The When】


00:00 今年的大学女篮有多火？


15:45 男篮和女篮收入差距能有多大？当女篮在要求涨薪水的时候他们在要求什么？


24:30 假设天降两个非常有天赋的初中生——凯文和凯莉杜兰特，他们从新秀到退役的职业道路会有什么不同？


52:17 为什么不能让篮筐低一点呢？


01:13:18 站在女性、少数族裔、酷儿交叉口的WNBA


00:00 How popular is women's college basketball this year?


15:45 Exploring the income gap between men's and women's basketball: What highlighting this disparity matters? It's not just about income.


24:30 Imagining two highly talented middle school students—Kevin and Kelly Durant—dropped into the world: How would their career trajectories differ from rookies to retirement?


52:17 Why isn't the basketball hoop height lowered for women?


01:13:18 The WNBA at the intersection of gender, racial, and LGBTQ+ identities



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