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In this episode, Phil and Susie explore the topic of prophecy.  We discuss what prophecy is, what criteria something needs to meet in order to be considered ”fulfilled” prophecy, examples of ”fulfilled” prophecy from the bible and determining if they meet the criteria, modern false prophets, and how the gift of prophecy has changed over the centuries.  Be warned, there is a lot of bible in this episode and we compare the biblical text to historical data to help us determine if the bible really does have fulfilled prophecy.  There are a lot of links in the show notes section if you’d like to dig into this further.  

We also wanted to give our listeners the opportunity to support a fellow creator within the community, Tim Mills of Harmonic Atheist, who is in the midst of a difficult family and legal situation and needs some real support and help.  You can connect with Tim at any of the links below to support his channels and to make a donation to help him in this time of need.  

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Show Notes and Sources

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/11/us/christian-prophets-predictions.html&sa=D&source=docs&ust=1716648572040904&usg=AOvVaw1Jw347u5kFJt5vioK1Asuy
https://sites.google.com/site/errorsinthebible/failed-prophecies/6-failed-proph 
https://www.tyndalebulletin.org/article/29192-prediction-and-foreknowledge-in-ezekiel-s-prophecy-against-tyre.pdf
https://www.gotquestions.org/Tyre-rebuilt-prophecy.html
https://sites.google.com/site/errorsinthebible/failed-prophecies/the-bible-s-broken-promises
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_and_claims_for_the_Second_Coming
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/bdaniel.html
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/primary/white.html
https://www.modernreformation.org/resources/articles/the-mod-the-messianic-prophecies-in-the-book-of-daniel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation
https://www.craiggreenfield.com/blog/moderndayprophets
Psalm 22 video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKRzo_wtSwk 

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In this episode, airing on Mother’s Day (which we didn’t realize at the time of recording), Phil and Suzie chat with Diane, who is a long-time Virginia resident, a mom to a brilliant nearly-25-year-old, and completely owned by a big, goofy black lab and two cats – one perfect angel and one complete ass. She adores them all. She also loves to swim, write, and travel, and she’s fascinated by architecture, especially old churches. Some have said that’s God reaching out to her, but that just makes her snort. An agnostic atheist since her late teens (but a doubter since childhood), she was indoctrinated and raised in the Methodist church. She enjoys hearing about others’ spiritual journeys, even when she doesn’t understand them.  

We have a fascinating conversation about her upbringing, her transition from indoctrination to atheism, and the freedom, hope, and joy that she has found outside of religion and faith.  Diane is the ultimate example of what many people strive for while deconstructing, namely the desire to be free, be herself, and connect with people on her own terms.  

Diane writes on her blog, Breathing Underwater.  You can connect with her at https://breathingunder-water.blogspot.com/ 

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In this episode, Phil and Suzie talk with Sarah Miller Mott, a former preacher/leader under the Foursquare Denomination. She is a published author of poetry and working on getting her novels that she has written over the years published.  She tells us all about her very interesting story, growing up Lutheran in North Dakota, how she deconstructed, became an atheist, and then went back to Xtianity in a whole new way, and then after being misled and manipulated by the church, deconstructed and deconverted again.  She tells the story how she will never go back to being a believer and why.  Her story is fascinating and engaging and you will certainly benefit from hearing it.  

You can find her published works on Amazon and Follow her on Tiktok @authorsarahmillermott:  

The Collected Poetry of The Girl in the Corner 
The Collected Poetry of The Girl in the Corner Vol 2
A Short Tale of a Happy Trail

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In this episode, Phil and Suzie talk with Darante’ Lamar in an incredible, wide-ranging, and passionate discussion about his faith background, his life in ministry, what lead to his deconversion, and the impact of faith and the journey away from faith on him as an Black man and the black community.   

Bio: Darante’ LaMar’s journey from serving as a leader in both charismatic megachurches and hyper spiritual storefront churches, to embracing a life of secularism and reason, offers a unique perspective on the evolution of faith in contemporary society. With a background that includes virtually every role within the ministry, Darante’ brings a comprehensive understanding of the inner workings of religious organizations and the impact they have on individuals and communities. Currently, Darante’ is a Global Project Manager and DEI executive in the healthcare industry. He serves, alongside his wife, as the managing partner of DLDD World Group - a nonprofit committed to people centric projects, programs and progress. He is the author of three published books: Significant, Parenting on Purpose, and Memphis: The Last Supper and three upcoming books, Making The Jump, Christ Held Up and The Case for Religion 

Link to the ”Hell” video referenced in the episode:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-mQwkFBgaY

Where to Find Darante: 

Social Media 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbROOoAVy40Cv5NtKccRClg 
https://www.facebook.com/darante.martin/ 
https://twitter.com/DaranteLaMarX 
https://www.tiktok.com/@darantelamar7 https://www.dldd.us 
Books 
https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3ADarante%27+LaMar&s=relevancerank&text=Darante%27+LaMar&ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1
Significant - https://www.amazon.com/Significant-diffidence-confidence-Darante-LaMar/dp/1506105572/ref=monarch_sidesheet


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In this episode, Phil and Susie discuss the correlation between religious ideology and the ideologies of authoritarianism.  This was suggested to us as a It’s a Feature, not a Bug” idea, but we decided to expand it to a full episode topic, because there’s a lot of interesting things to talk about! Thanks to one of our listeners who suggested the topic.

Data Nuggets Segment:  Is there intelligent life on other planets? Opinions of the religious and non-religious.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/07/28/religious-americans-less-likely-to-believe-intelligent-life-exists-on-other-planets/


Sources: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_and_authoritarianism 
https://theconversation.com/trumps-use-of-religion-follows-playbook-of-authoritarian-leaning-leaders-the-world-over-140050
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3389201/ 
https://oxfordre.com/politics/display/10.1093/acrefore/9780190228637.001.0001/acrefore-9780190228637-e-667
https://one.npr.org/?sharedMediaId=1236709842:1236709862

In this episode, Phil and Suzie talk with Helen Greene, Ambassador and Fundraising Coordinator for Recovering from Religion.  In this wide-ranging conversation, Helen talks with us about her interesting journey away from faith from her Catholic upbringing, discovery of paganism, and eventual deconstruction to skepticism and atheism. 

Helen comes from a diverse background of beliefs. Raised Roman Catholic, then rejecting the church to move into paganism, she was a pagan high priestess for 10 years during her time in that faith (which was 13 years). Eventually realizing through education and skeptical inquiry into herself, she came to the conclusion she had no solid evidence for her beliefs – which brought her to a more humanistic and realistic worldview. Still studying psychology even out of college, she spends her time trying to understand human behavior, the emotional and psychological understandings of ourselves, and what forms our perspectives and why. She is an ambassador for Recovering from Religion, head of their fundraising team, and one of the co-hosts of their Monday night podcast RfRx. She also volunteers at the Atheist Community of Austin, a rotating co-host of the podcast the Non Prophets, hosts a TikTok live The Queerly Godless Feminist via the ACA,and one Women Atheist Unload and Global Atheists at the Skeptic Haven YouTube channel. For fun, she enjoys horror (esp cosmic horror) and sci-fi movies, video gaming, and diving deep into made-up world-building stories such as the Lord of the Rings.

Helen’s Links:

www.recoveringfromreligion.org  
The Atheist Community of Austin https://atheist-community.org/  
https://youtube.com/@TheNonProphetsACA?si=aR9VmZsuZwHgeQTB 
https://youtube.com/@SkepticHaven?si=hcvsBRbJkxioSh9p
https://www.tiktok.com/@hellsbellssrq?_t=8kUAFrm9k6c&_r=1