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Hop on your underwater moped, because Trevor Noah joins us this week to talk about thread count, a pocket of nothing, and the trappings of American fame and popularity. So come along and learn how knowing people works… on an all-new SmartLess.

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Grab your tights and ballet shoes; we’ve got David Beckham! Teamwork, Ownership, Family… and the difference between football, soccer, and American football. So pull up a stool and join us for a pub lunch, a roast dinner, and some jellied eels… on an all-new SmartLess.




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When Frank Farian first laid eyes on Rob Pilatus and Fab Morvan, he saw everything he wasn’t. They were handsome, young, and Black. But Frank had something they didn’t. He had power.




So, Frank offered them a devil’s bargain. Almost overnight, Milli Vanilli’s debut album went five times platinum and scored a Grammy nomination. But when the lie at the center of their success started to unravel, Rob and Fab would discover the hard way the difference between star power and real power.




From Wondery, Blame It on the Fame is a story about the lie that shot to #1 and what it cost to tell the truth. Hosted by Amanda Seales.




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This week we fly-in the amazing Sarah Paulson, with whom we explore and examine the nooks and crannies of an English Muffin, a shared fear of flying, and how to eat air. So get ready, put on your bee-sized boxing gloves, and join us… for an all-new SmartLess.

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Double the power, double the math; for our 200th episode, it’s double-trouble with Steve Martin and Martin Short. The talk-show anecdote, the best use of a time-machine, and have you ever heard of the word “combo?” Here come the smiles… on an all-new SmartLess.

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On our first triple-guest podisode, we let our pal President Biden bring along two friends, Former Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. Let’s get a little less-SmartLess together… on an all new SmartLess.

This episode was recorded on March 28th, 2024.

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