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Unseen Leadership, hosted by Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter, explores the unseen stories that have made leaders who they are today. This is a podcast for young leaders to learn from those ahead of them by exploring the early days of their leadership, understanding the mistakes they made, and identifying the habits that shaped them. All to help you lead in the future. This podcast will be featuring guests like Carey Nieuwhof, Jamie Ivey, Clay Scroggins, Jackie Hill Perry, Levi Lusko, and many more.

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Unseen Leadership, hosted by Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter, explores the unseen stories that have made leaders who they are today. This is a podcast for young leaders to learn from those ahead of them by exploring the early days of their leadership, understanding the mistakes they made, and identifying the habits that shaped them. All to help you lead in the future. This podcast will be featuring guests like Carey Nieuwhof, Jamie Ivey, Clay Scroggins, Jackie Hill Perry, Levi Lusko, and many more.

    Unseen Leadership Episode 52: Andre Grey on Our Gifts Outpacing Our Character

    Unseen Leadership Episode 52: Andre Grey on Our Gifts Outpacing Our Character

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Andre Grey who is a Congregation Pastor at the Austin Stone Community. 



    During their conversation, they discuss how our gifts can outpace our character, leadership lessons that Andre learned from the military, and the difference between relational leadership and hierarchical leadership.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 52:

    “My gifts as a young kid were so forward facing that they pulled me into rooms and doors that quite honestly, I didn’t have any business being in at that point.”



    “There are times where your giftings will take you where your character cannot sustain you.”



    “If we are going to be a leader in the kingdom of God, we have to be willing to dig into the deep, dark places of my soul and really deal with my flaws and lean into my weakness and trust in the Lord.”



    “Cancel culture is not a thing with the Lord. God can redeem our story.”



    “As a leader, I want to be supportive of the people I’m leading. I don’t want to use people to get tasks done. I want to use tasks to get people done.”



    “Anyone going into leadership for the very first time needs to relentlessly commit to the development of their character and learn to lead with all humility.”

    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink

    Leadership as an Identity by Crawford W. Loritts

    When by Daniel Pink

    Gentle and Lowly by Dane Ortlund

    • 47 Min.
    Unseen Leadership Episode 51: J.T. English on Growing in Discipleship

    Unseen Leadership Episode 51: J.T. English on Growing in Discipleship

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by JT English who is the lead pastor at Storyline Church in Colorado. Before that, he was a pastor at the Village Church where he led The Village Institute. He also co-hosts the Knowing Faith podcast and is the author of his new book Deep Discipleship.



    During their conversation, they discuss how to grow in discipleship, how to get constant feedback from those you are leading, and what it was like taking over a church in the midst of a global pandemic.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 51:

    “We should not have to leave the church in order to lead in the church.”



    “I had this conviction that what if we were to take the best that a seminary has to offer and offer it to every day Christians in the local church. Because Christians really want to grow.”



    “We typically ask the question, “What do disciples want,” instead of asking the better questions of, “What do disciples need.””



    “It is never too early to start reading the Bible.”



    “There is nothing more off-putting about a leader than overconfidence. If we are calling ourselves Christian leaders, the only leader who could have been overconfident is Jesus. That’s not how Jesus leads.”



    “If your priority list is your email, then you are probably not leading well. You are being led by your email.”



    “Leaders need to maintain a soft heart and a firm spine.”

    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    Deep Discipleship by J.T. English

    Dwell App

    Frederick Douglass: Prophet of Freedom by David W. Blight

    • 41 Min.
    Unseen Leadership Episode 50: Dianne Jago on Leaning into Our Weakness as Leader

    Unseen Leadership Episode 50: Dianne Jago on Leaning into Our Weakness as Leader

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Dianne Jago who is a military wife and mother of three residing in Pensacola, Florida. She is the founder and chief editor of Deeply Rooted Magazine, where she works with her team to encourage, inspire, and equip women to be deeply rooted in Christ alone. She is also the author of A Holy Pursuit . 



    During their conversation, they discuss how to lead a remote team, how to bring a dream to a reality, and how to lean into our weakness as leaders.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 50:

    “When leading a remote team, I learned we had to clearly communicate the vision and set clear expectations.”



    “I needed to make sure I was leading my kids and leading in my home first before my business.”



    “Oftentimes leaders desire influence and they want to change the world, and that really starts in the home.”



    “I wish early on I had the ability to delegate. I was a perfection, and now I’m a recovering perfection.”



    “God’s grace is sufficient and his power is made perfect in our weakness, even in our weakness as leaders.”

    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    Deeply Rooted Magazine

    A Holy Pursuit by Dianne Jago

    Discipline by Elisabeth Elliot

    Checklist Manifesto by Atul Gawande

    Do More Better: A Practical Guide to Productivity by Tim Challies

    Be Still My Soul by Elisabeth Elliot

    • 32 Min.
    Unseen Leadership Episode 49: Barnabas Piper on Living Up to Expectations as a Pastor’s Kid

    Unseen Leadership Episode 49: Barnabas Piper on Living Up to Expectations as a Pastor’s Kid

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Barnabas Piper who is on staff at Immanuel Church in Nashville, TN. He is also the author of The Pastor's Kid and Help My Unbelief AND He co-hosts the popular Happy Rant podcast. Exciting news…..he also just released a new book called Hoping for Happiness.



    During their conversation, they discuss how to wait on the Lord in your work, growing in humility as a leader, and  living up to expectations as a pastor’s kid.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 49:

    “Happiness is not promised to us in our work. Go back and read Genesis 3. Genesis 3 basically says our work is going to be a pain, often.”



    “Keep the room clean where you are until God opens the door to the next place.”



    “Every time I have ever tried hard to change my work situation, I’ve screwed it up. When I’ve decided to faithfully work where I am and God handles the transition, I’ve been put in a spot that is clearly the best spot for me to be in.”



    “To be humble takes a profound amount of security in the Lord. Because you are volunteering to be lower than other people.”



    “More is expected of leaders. That’s part of the job.”



    “I liked passing the buck and taking the credit, which is the opposite of leadership.”



    “If we are marked by the things that we are trying to avoid, we are aimless.”

    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    5LQ Episode 1: John Piper



    Hoping for Happiness by Barnabas Piper



    Gentle and Lowly by Dane Ortlund



    Ragamuffin Gospel by Brennan Manning



    The Son by Philipp Meyer

    Working by Robert A. Caro

    • 55 Min.
    Unseen Leadership Episode 48: Dorena Williamson on Becoming a Bridge Builder

    Unseen Leadership Episode 48: Dorena Williamson on Becoming a Bridge Builder

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Dorena Williamson who is a proud mother, a passionate teacher, and a devoted bridge-builder. She is also the author of ColorFull, ThoughtFull, and GraceFull, which are children’s books that celebrate God’s diverse kingdom.



    During their conversation, they discuss what it means to be a bridge-builder, the necessity of listening and learning from others, and how to focus on pleasing God more than people.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 48:

    “Oftentimes, bridgebuilders get walked on because that is what bridges were designed for.”



    “The ultimate bridge builder was Jesus the Messiah. He gave his life to create a bridge for us to God.”



    “We must posture ourselves as listeners and learners.”



    “We need to do what we are called to do and that is not to please people, that is to aim to please God.”



    “Support and loyalty are not always the same thing.”



    “If someone is more loyal to me than they are to Christ, then I have failed them.”

    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    Designed to Lead by Eric Geiger and Kevin Peck

    Healing Racial Trauma: The Road to Resilience by Sheila Wise Rowe

    • 45 Min.
    Unseen Leadership Episode 47: Matt Chandler on Being Diagnosed with Brain Cancer as a Young Leader

    Unseen Leadership Episode 47: Matt Chandler on Being Diagnosed with Brain Cancer as a Young Leader

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Matt Chandler who is the lead pastor of teaching at The Village Church in Dallas, Texas, and the president of Acts 29. He has authored several books, including To Live Is Christ to Die Is Gain, Creature of the Word, and The Explicit Gospel.



    During their conversation, they discuss how Matt was diagnosed with brain cancer as a young leader, how to understand yourself as a leader, and how to create an ideal week and schedule your days.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 47:

    “I’m all gas and no brakes. So I needed some brakes around me. Or we were going to do 6,000 things and none of them well.”



    “As leaders, we need to flank our weakness and bolster our strengths with the people around us.”



    “The biggest pivotal moment that changed my life was when I got brain cancer, and honestly, it was both the scariest and coolest season of my life.”



    “My heart when coming to the Village Church was that I didn’t want to make it my church.”



    “What’s going on inside of me is a question leaders don’t pay attention to often enough.”



    “Without repetition, there is no formation.” - Jon Tyson



    “As a young leader, I had the misconception that people would just do what I said.”



    “There is a game we play of winning over people and learning to take an idea from our head and to its inception and not destroy people along the way.”

    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less by Greg McKeown

    The Ride of a Lifetime by Robert Iger

    • 41 Min.

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