159 episodes

The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand moments. This podcast is to support your work and to take a moment to step away from the daily chaos. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome!

Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford

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The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand moments. This podcast is to support your work and to take a moment to step away from the daily chaos. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome!

    People Analytics Is More Than Just Data – A Conversation with Andrea Derler

    People Analytics Is More Than Just Data – A Conversation with Andrea Derler

    In this episode, our guest, Andrea Derler, shares how people analytics empowers HR and leaders to align HR strategy with business goals like never before. Organizations are increasing under greater pressure to increase employee engagement and performance outcomes. Join us today to learn how people analytics can unlock the untapped value of your employees.


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    _About Dr. Andrea Derler
    Andrea Derler, has been leading research projects in the HR field in both U.S. and European companies for over 10 years and has been with Visier, a Canadian software company and a leader in the People Analytics domain, since 2021. In this interview, she will provide a practical introduction to the discipline of People Analytics, share the hottest HR trends of 2024, and offer insights into current case examples from the HR and people analytics practice. _

    • 44 min
    The Power and Irritation of a Good Question

    The Power and Irritation of a Good Question

    In this episode, Bob’nJoyce share thought-provoking question for leaders and HR/OD practitioners. Some questions come from Gallup consulting, and the rest from Joyce’s own writings. Asking a powerful question is a valuable tool for providing insights, shifting perspectives (in a good way), and revealing blind spots. They can also irritate the dickens out of you.


    Come join us as we rift on each and provide our thoughts on where and when to use them. We blend humor, a bit of sarcasm, and brilliant insights that will make you both smile and grimace.


    Spoiler Alert!!!! Here is the list of Joyce's touchstone Leadership Questions:


    — Would you do the same job for half the salary?
    — Do you have something preposterously important you want to get done?
    — Do you think about ‘better’ or ‘different’?
    — Do you look forward to developing, thinking with, being demanding of,
    infusing with enthusiasm, your direct reports?
    — Does the idea of contact with the core of your business excite you or
    bore you?
    —Do you take reality into serious consideration but not bow to it?
    —When people see you coming, do they want to do good work and after you leave, do they want to do their best work?
    — Do you often realize that you owe your privileged role to every person in your company and does it make you determined to make them proud of you?


    Some of these I know grabed your attention and interest so...
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    • 27 min
    The Magic of Self-Organizing Communities

    The Magic of Self-Organizing Communities

    In this episode, Bob’nJoyce rift on the merits and relevance of creating self-organizing communities. Whether it be in the fabric of an organization’s culture or a one-time intervention, taking a decentralized approach for problem solving, co-creation, and vitality works. In this episode we asks as many questions as we answers so buckle up because we need you on this topic.


    We touch on:
    How self-organizing unleashes tapped down energy and promotes engagement.
    The importance of trust that communities will get it right
    Working through the panic that this might just not work
    How to embrace a decentralized approach in a hierarchical, top-down organization.


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    • 21 min
    The Power of Setting Work Norms

    The Power of Setting Work Norms

    In this episode, Bob’nJoyce delve into the practice of setting norms of behavior for meetings. Norm setting is a game changer for effective engagement but too often doesn’t work. We provide tips and ideas on how to establish norms that work.


    Why is this an important topic?


    • Many meetings are waste of time and talent.
    • Meetings done well are where real work gets done.
    • Norms are a powerful intervention to promote a productive culture.


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    • 23 min
    Leading Big Change: CIO Insights with Terry Morgan

    Leading Big Change: CIO Insights with Terry Morgan

    In this episode, Bob’nJoyce sit down with Terry Morgan, an accomplished executive known for his change leadership as a CEO, CIO, interim executive, and technology consultant. Terry has led large scale transformations at companies including Food Lion, Delhaize, and Lowe's Home Improvement. Terry shares insights for navigating significant change with a thoughtful approach resulting in successful, high impact outcomes. Some of those insights include:
    • Ways to address resistance to change
    • Why taking risk is necessary and the importance of mitigating it
    • The flywheel of things to consider when leading big change
    • The importance of getting stakeholder involved in the change process


    This episode is packed with good stuff so……Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!


    About Terry Morgan
    Principal, Morgan Advisory Services, LLC.


    Mr. Terry Morgan is a seasoned senior executive with deep and diverse experience in industry and consulting. He retired as the CEO of Macro Integration Services, Inc. and has been the sole principal of Morgan Advisory Services, LLC (www.morganadv.com) since 2010. He has over 40 years of industry and consulting experience in strategic planning, technology, retail services, business process improvement, cost optimization, and general management. After his grocery career as the Global CIO of Delhaize Group, he served interim executive roles via Morgan Advisory Services at Extended Stay America (Interim CIO), Belk (Interim CTO), AMTdirect (Consultant and Board Member), Delhaize America (Interim CTO, Interim Office of the CIO), Lowe’s (Interim CIO, Interim CISO, and Interim SVP of Technology – Canada). In most cases, he hired the permanent replacement as well as ran the function.


    Mr. Morgan has served in a volunteer mentoring capacity with Rowan County Times Two Mentoring and Queens College. He has his MBA from the Fuqua School of Business with an emphasis in Finance, his BS from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill with a major Business Administration and Accounting and is a Certified Management Accountant.

    • 39 min
    Navigating Big Change: Principles Every Leader Should Know

    Navigating Big Change: Principles Every Leader Should Know

    In this episode, Bob’nJoyce share 12 principles or truths about organizational change. This list is based on the work of Margaret Wheatley, author, leadership guru, and management consultant. We time-test these truths using our experiences and invite you to do the same.


    Here is sample of some:



    Whatever the problem, community is the answer.
    Diversity is a blessing, not a problem.
    A leader is anyone willing to engage.
    People support what they create.
    Change happens through emergence, not by any other process.


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    • 23 min

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