The Table Women Podcast Sarah DeFors and Victoria Banks

We’re back with season 4! Country Artist and Songwriter Brooke Eden sits down at the table to discuss her journey from playing hometown honkytonks to major stages, getting signed, the struggle of finding her voice, her love story with wife Hilary, coming out, and more!


Notes:

Brooke Eden: https://www.brookeeden.com/welcome/

BMG: https://www.bmg.com/us

Outlaw Love Album: https://brookeeden.lnk.to/OutlawLoveWE

“Outlaw Love” Music Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzskBIMVKT8

“All My Love” Music Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv2QMboZ_Lc

Ty Herndon: https://www.tyherndon.com/

Chely Wright: https://www.chely.com/

The Worst Witch: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092239/

We’re back! After time away Sarah and Vic discuss where they’ve been, what’s been going on, and what’s coming up, as well as sharing and answering the new rapid-fire questions!




Notes:

Asleep At Last - Atlas Enneagram for Enneagram 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HM5Hqq2P2Y

Soul contract book, ”Journey of Souls”: https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Souls-Studies-Between-Lives/dp/1567184855

Sarah and Vic sit down with Management and A&R at Born & Raised Entertainment and TwentySeven Music Publishing Sarah Stickle to discuss:

Finding your niche and using varied experience to your advantage
The satisfaction of seeing things through start to finish, and celebrating your wins!
Diversity in the industry and how it varies from location, genre, and area of the industry
How underpaying songwriters is a feminist issue
How gender roles and capitalism make it harder to create change
Performative allyship - Are the changes we’re seeing long-term?
Being a queer woman in the music industry 
The intersection of gender, race, and sexuality 
Advocating for your peers and creators, and helping others do the same
The difference in community and creativity between Nashville and LA
The importance of having peers and a team that fights for you




Notes:

Jason Bernard - https://variety.com/2018/music/news/pulse-music-group-jason-bernard-1203021768/ 

Kobalt - https://www.kobaltmusic.com/ 




Some of Sarah’s recent wins and artists/songs discussed:

Signing Brian Brundage for management (Tai Verdes’ ”A-O-K”, Rhys Lewis, Maddie Zahm)
Cuts she helped to secure:
44Phantom ft. Machine Gun Kelly single ”don’t sleep, repeat”
Hayley Kiyoko’s ”for the girls” - which was also featured in the new Netflix film Do Revenge 
Sofia Carson’s ”Loud”
Procured the mix for Kane Brown’s single ”Grand” (mixed by Adam Hawkins)
Ryan Daly - The new John Legend single ”Wonder Woman”, the forthcoming Fitz & The Tantrums album, and the current DNCE single

Sarah and Vic discuss the gap in understanding between older generations and Gen Z, and Social media, via first-person concerns gathered anonymously from college students, listeners, and viral artists.  

Topics include:

What happens when the gatekeepers try to jump on the bandwagon

Trusting your creative “gut” over trends and views

What happens if you hit it big and fall off?

Do views and aesthetic decide the quality of the content?

Speed VS. Quality 

Gen Z doesn’t give a fuck about your status quo - the standard was never for us

How old structures like labels can hold you back in the age of viral content

Overexposure and how the industry corrects

Authenticity is king - and Gen Z can spot it better than anybody 

Scandals, cancel culture, and post Me Too accountability

The pressure to be famous and always have a take

Is the next phase of the tech age no tech?

Viral content, evolving trends, and societal “correctness”

The importance of mental health and having to face our faults

How seemingly small social trends influence world events




Mentioned creators:

Idiocracy: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/ 

Loveless “Unholy” Cover: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TdKWSlEXyaI 

Katie Gregson-MacLeod - complex (demo): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvbKTeuxHVI 

Sam Smith “Unholy”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq9gPaIzbe8 

Try Guys: https://www.youtube.com/c/tryguys

Hit country songwriter Liz Hengber sits down with Vic and Sarah to discuss her incredible career, including:

Lessons learned over 30+ years in Nashville
Why it’s important to show up
Mentorship and how it changes the game
Lessons from waiting tables and waiting your turn 
How to stay sharp and relevant in changing times
The career-keeping perspectives of 7 #1’s and 70+ cuts 
Why ego has no place in the writing room
Gender, age, and new generations!

Sarah and Victoria sit down with Senior Director of Creative at Creative Nation, Emily Furman to discuss:

What it looks like to work your way up in publishing 
The internal vs. external experience as a woman in music
Longterm jobs in a short-term industry and when to switch it up
What it takes to build an artist career that lasts
How farmers and assertive family prepares you to connect with people
Advocating for yourself and creatives
One person’s success doesn’t take away from yours
Burnout, establishing balance in your life, and less is more
Check your ego at the door

And so much more!




Notes:

Carnival Music: https://www.carnivalmusic.net/ 

Carnival’s Roster: https://www.carnivalmusic.net/music-makers 

Hailey Whitters: https://haileywhitters.com/ 

Brent Cobb: https://www.brentcobbmusic.com/ 

Creative Nation: https://www.creativenationmusic.com/ 

Beth Laird & the team: https://www.creativenationmusic.com/team 

CN’s Roster: https://www.creativenationmusic.com/clients 

Lainey Wilson: https://laineywilson.com/homepage