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If HR is one of the most soul-crushing industries to work in, how come we’re not talking about it more? I Hate it Here is the unflinching podcast where People professionals to talk honestly and openly about HR, sharing best-in-class resources to make the hardest job in the world that little bit easier. Hosted by Hebba Youssef, Chief People Officer at Workweek and creator of the I Hate it Here podcast and newsletter, this show is for HR People who want to get things done right - even if they do feel a bit empty inside from time to time. You’ll hear from industry insiders, not just the same old voices, sharing all the things you’re secretly thinking but never said out loud, digging into real-life examples, and delivering practical solutions and strategies for your people team.

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If HR is one of the most soul-crushing industries to work in, how come we’re not talking about it more? I Hate it Here is the unflinching podcast where People professionals to talk honestly and openly about HR, sharing best-in-class resources to make the hardest job in the world that little bit easier. Hosted by Hebba Youssef, Chief People Officer at Workweek and creator of the I Hate it Here podcast and newsletter, this show is for HR People who want to get things done right - even if they do feel a bit empty inside from time to time. You’ll hear from industry insiders, not just the same old voices, sharing all the things you’re secretly thinking but never said out loud, digging into real-life examples, and delivering practical solutions and strategies for your people team.

    S4 E4: Top Tier Retention Strategies, with Stephen and Daniel Huerta

    S4 E4: Top Tier Retention Strategies, with Stephen and Daniel Huerta

    Retaining top talent looks easy on paper. So why then, do so many companies have difficulty with their retention strategies? 
    Hebba chats with “Modern People Leader” podcast hosts Daniel and Stephen Huerta about personalization in the age of information, the rise of AI, and the best ways companies can boost their retention strategies. Having spoken to over 200 people leaders on their pod, Daniel and Stephen understand a thing or two about the importance of a great people ops team.
    They break down why trust is so important in the workplace and explain how it can help to improve employee retention rates. They also explore the ways that AI is changing the nature of work and how it might change the way we view HR.
    Plus, will the constant in-fighting in HR ever stop? Will it be HR’s ultimate downfall? Daniel, Hebba, and Stephen discuss the ways remote work has changed retention strategies and explain why it’s causing so much bickering within company lines. Is it time to rethink the system? 

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    00:00:00 - Retaining Top Talent 
    00:07:55 - Maintaining Trust in the Workplace
    00:11:28 - Navigating Remote Work Accountability Challenges
    00:15:44 - Causes of Employee Turnover Explored
    00:17:49 - HR's Identity Crisis: Retaining Talent
    00:25:04 - How AI is Fundamentally Changing the Way We Work
    00:27:14 - Retaining Employees Through Clear Communication
    00:30:21 - Embrace Remote Work for Success
    00:38:57 - Power Dynamics in Retention Strategies
    00:44:12 - Improving Talent Mobility in Companies
    00:49:43 - Maximizing Employee Retention Through Referrals
    00:54:38 - The Hardest C-Suite Job 
     
     
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    Listen to the Modern People Leader Podcast here.
     
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    • 59 min
    S4 E3: In the Hot Seat: A CEO’s Perspective on People Ops, with Workweek’s Adam Ryan

    S4 E3: In the Hot Seat: A CEO’s Perspective on People Ops, with Workweek’s Adam Ryan

    Oil and water. Fire and ice. CEOs and CPOs. 
    Some things just don’t go together like they should. But does it always have to be that way? 
    In this super candid conversation, Hebba chats with her IRL CEO at Workweek, Adam Ryan, to discuss the complex relationship between CEOs and CPOs. Adam opens up about the CEO’s perspective on HR and shares his thoughts on how HR leaders can build a better relationship with their CEO. 
    What role can honesty, vulnerability, and empathy play in building a better path forward for both sides? And does there always have to be a conflict of interest between the two departments? Adam reveals what it’s like to hold the weight of an entire company on his shoulders and explains the role that ego can play in conflict.
    Plus, what’s the best way to capture the attention of a reluctant or stubborn CEO? Adam shares his best tips for effective communication strategies and opens his playbook for successful HR/CEO relations. 
    And later, find out the top warning signs and red flags of when a CEO/CPO relationship is about to turn sour and Adam’s super juicy take on why employees leave. 
     
    00:00:00 - Navigating the Tension Between HR and CEO
    00:01:13 - When Company Values Clash: Reasons to Leave
    00:08:57 - CEO and CPO Relationship Dynamics Unpacked
    00:13:58 - The Importance of Consistent Communication with CEOs
    00:16:56 - Navigating Tensions in Company Communications
    00:23:25 - Understanding Your CEO's Perspective in Decision Making
    00:28:44 - HR and Finance Roles: A Balancing Act
    00:34:37 - Building Strong Working Relationships at Work
    00:38:01 - Strengthening HR-CEO Relationship with Empathy 
     
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    • 41 min
    S4 E2: Should I Stay or Should I Go? What to Do When You Feel Stuck in Your Career, with Tori Lazar

    S4 E2: Should I Stay or Should I Go? What to Do When You Feel Stuck in Your Career, with Tori Lazar

    Feeling stuck in your career?
    You’re not alone. Join Hebba and special guest Tori Lazar, a strategic storyteller and executive coach, as they discuss how to recognize career quagmires and turn stalemates into personal growth. 
    What are the top three warning signs of career unhappiness, and how can leaders be more personally aware of their own internal red flags? Tori shares insights on tapping into your inner child, overcoming fear, and pinpointing the source of unhappiness in your current career. 
    Tori and Hebba also discuss the fine art of not giving @#$! about what people think of you. How can you get over the fear of not being liked and still advocate for the employees who may view you as public enemy #1? They dive into the role of HR professionals in advocating for employees and explain how to maintain a positive work culture and persevere through the constant barrage of criticism that’s synonymous with the job. 
     
    00:02:37 - Tori Lazar: Strategic Storyteller and Executive Coach
    00:03:13 - Optimizing Your Time
    00:07:13 - Top 3 Signs of Being Stuck in Your Career
    00:21:51 - Gen Z Challenges Workplace Norms
    00:27:24 - Advocating for Every Employee 
    00:34:57 - Overcoming Fear in Unfulfilling Careers
    00:41:23 - Harnessing Childhood Experiences to Build Confidence
    00:43:17 - How Practice Builds Confidence in Overcoming Fear
    00:47:23 - Why Great Leaders Need Great HR Departments
    00:51:40 - Identifying Unhappiness in HR Careers
     
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    • 53 min
    S4 E1: The 3 Biggest Reasons Why Employees Quit, with Jessica Winder

    S4 E1: The 3 Biggest Reasons Why Employees Quit, with Jessica Winder

    Why do employees quit? 
    Compensation, growth opportunities, and environment are usually the top 3 reasons cited. 
    But what does all that actually mean to the employees and is there anything HR can really do to stop employees from fleeing? 
    Jessica returns to sit down with Hebba to clear up what growth actually means, the biggest misconceptions about compensation, and red flags to look out for to identify toxic cultures. You’ll hear their take on why counter-offers shouldn’t be a regular practice and if it's even worth trying to recover an employee who is ready to jump ship. 
    Plus, stay tuned as Hebba and Jessica later discuss navigating conflict in toxic work environments and learning valuable lessons from employee exit interviews.
      
    00:00:00 - Navigating Employee Turnover in HR
    00:02:27 - Building a Career Coaching Empire
    00:07:22 - Three Pillars That Drive Employee Turnover
    00:11:00 - Redefining Growth Beyond Promotions
    00:17:22 - Fostering Healthy Growth Through Transparency
    00:24:44 - Why Counter Offers Don't Work
    00:32:07 - Advocating for Better Employee Experiences
    00:33:06 - Recognizing Toxic Work Environments: Red Flags
    00:36:23 - Can HR Fix Toxic Workplaces?

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    • 46 min
    S3 E10: Demystifying Pay Transparency: A Legal Perspective, with Lulu Seikaly

    S3 E10: Demystifying Pay Transparency: A Legal Perspective, with Lulu Seikaly

    Whether employers like it or not, greater pay transparency is the future. So why do HR leaders need to start embracing pay transparency rather than fearing it?  
    Lulu Seikaly, a senior corporate employment attorney with Payscale, sheds light on the topic in a candid conversation with Hebba about the impact of pay transparency laws on employees, the challenges employers face when implementing them, and the future of pay transparency on a global and local scale.
    How has Gen Z become the poster child for greater pay transparency practices? Why are employers so darn afraid to post salary ranges? And should employees who live in high-cost-of-living areas earn more than their coworkers? 
    Lulu chats with Hebba about the rights that employees have in relation to pay transparency and offers advice for companies navigating these laws. She also explains how pay transparency is vital to building a better workplace culture and one of the foremost things HR departments can do to create change for underrepresented groups. 
    Join in on this informative and thought-provoking discussion as Lulu and Hebba explore the evolving landscape of pay transparency and its implications for organizations and employees.
     
    The Predictive Index (PI) is an award-winning talent optimization platform that aligns business strategy with people strategy for optimal business results. More than 60 years of proven science, software, and a curriculum of insightful management workshops make PI the solution for any company looking to design great teams and culture, make objective hiring decisions, foster engagement, and inspire greatness in their people anywhere in the world. More than 10,000 clients and 480+ partners use PI—including Nissan, Citizens Bank, Subway, Blue Cross Blue Shield, and Omni Hotels—across 90+ countries. Learn more at https://www.predictiveindex.com/.
     
    01:35 Pay Transparency Laws
    07:30 How the Rest of the World Deals with Pay Transparency
    10:20 Challenges to Implementing Pay Transparency
    16:10 Why Employers Are Afraid of Posting Salary Ranges
    24:20 Adhering to Pay Transparency Laws
    30:51 Why HR Gets Such a Bad Rap
    34:00 Tearing Down the Gender Pay Gap
    37:12 The Right to Disconnect Law & the European Work Ethos
    41:20 Location Agnostic Pay Ranges
    49:20 The Future of Paid Transparency
    52:01 Eliminating Bias in Promotions
     
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    • 58 min
    S3 E9: Talk Pay to Me: The Viral TikToker Tearing Down the Pay Gap, with Hannah Williams

    S3 E9: Talk Pay to Me: The Viral TikToker Tearing Down the Pay Gap, with Hannah Williams

     “How much do you make?” 
    It’s the one question that sends chills up corporate spines and the one question every employee is secretly dying to ask one another. But what if it didn’t have to be that way? What if pay was… *gasp* actually transparent?
    Meet the viral TikTok sensation daring to bring pay transparency to the forefront of the social media conversation, Hannah Williams.
    Sick of corporate America making employees feel powerless in the pay cycle, Hannah’s viral TikTok series, “Salary Transparent Street” set out to tear down the pay transparency wall by encouraging strangers to disclose all the dirty deets of exactly how much they make. 
    She chats with Hebba about how her personal experience of being underpaid sparked a social media revolution and inspired her to fight back against discriminatory employment practices and pay gaps disproportionately affecting women, POC, disabled communities, and LQBTQIA+ groups. 
    Together, Hannah and Hebba break down strategies for setting pay bands in a fair and earnest way, discuss why employers are so scared of people talking about pay, and reveal how budget-strapped employers can think outside of the box when it comes to negotiations. 
      
    The Predictive Index (PI) is an award-winning talent optimization platform that aligns business strategy with people strategy for optimal business results. More than 60 years of proven science, software, and a curriculum of insightful management workshops make PI the solution for any company looking to design great teams and culture, make objective hiring decisions, foster engagement, and inspire greatness in their people anywhere in the world.
    More than 10,000 clients and 480+ partners use PI—including Nissan, Citizens Bank, Subway, Blue Cross Blue Shield, and Omni Hotels—across 90+ countries. Learn more at https://www.predictiveindex.com/.

     00:05:50 - Revolutionizing Salary Transparency in Content
    00:08:18 - Transparency Leads to Higher Earnings
    00:14:35 - Pay Transparency Legislation Also Aids Equality
    00:22:05 - Gen Z Advocates for Pay Transparency
    00:34:25 - Increasing Employee Motivation with Pay Transparency
    00:39:33 - Revisiting Employee Pay Levels for Success
    00:45:52 - Employers Fear Being Recorded by Employees
    00:49:21 - Hannah’s Shark Tank Experience
    00:52:38 - Interviewing Top Content Creators
     
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