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Coaching Uncaged by Animas explores the art, science and career of coaching.

Featuring interviews with world renown experts along with recordings and thought pieces from Animas, we aim to bring to life the depth and power of coaching.

Coaching Uncaged Animas Centre for Coaching

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    • 4.6 • 22 Ratings

Coaching Uncaged by Animas explores the art, science and career of coaching.

Featuring interviews with world renown experts along with recordings and thought pieces from Animas, we aim to bring to life the depth and power of coaching.

    The Future of Coaching Revisited - A Conversation with Hetty Einzig

    The Future of Coaching Revisited - A Conversation with Hetty Einzig

    The Future of Coaching Revisited - A Conversation with Herry Einzig

    Join Hetty Einzig and Yannick Jacob in conversation around the state of coaching now and in the future.

    Hetty first appeared on this podcast back in 2018 talking about the ideas from her book, The Future of Coaching and in this session, Yannick invites her to revisit the topic in the light of the many changes we’ve experienced since that time.

    Together, amongst many other things, they explore:

    Why a coach needs to understand themselvesWhether the coach is ever a neutral instrumentNew ideas on the future of coachingThe place of the body and somatic intelligenceContested realities and postcolonial dimensions in coachingThe place of ethical responsibility in coachingBecoming grounded as a coach for robust partneringBANI vs VUCA frameworks for thinkingThe place of knowledge and sharing in coachingThe place of training within coachingThe role and place of hope for the future

    About Hetty Einzig

    Hetty brings 25 years of psychology and executive coaching experience to global leadership development. A best-selling author, her career has spanned the arts, journalism, media, health and policy development in the private, public and voluntary sectors. She designs and delivers leader-coach and global culture change programmes. Key focuses are women’s leadership, Transpersonal Coaching and regenerative approaches for contribution. She works ecosystemically and holistically founded on transpersonal psychology and informed by psychoanalysis and embodiment approaches. She teaches at the Irish Management Institute, is a Senior Associate Director with Common Purpose, and she coaches, teaches and facilitates in French. She is Association for Coaching Director of Publications Strategy and Executive Editor of Coaching Perspectives, the AC global magazine.

    Hetty holds a Masters in Psychoanalytic and Systemic Approaches to Organisational Consulting from the Tavistock Centre (UEL), a Certificate in Coaching Supervision from Oxford Brookes, a Masters in History of Art from the Courtauld Institute (UL), and a BA in languages from Cambridge University. She is married with two millennial daughters.

    The Future of Coaching: vision, leadership and responsibility in a transforming world Routledge 2017.

    ‘Radical Hope – a dimension of the soul rooted’ in Holding the Hope: restoring psychological and spiritual agency in the face of Climate Change. PCCS Books forthcoming, January 2023.

    For more information on Transpersonal Coaching programmes

    For more information on Ecosystems Supervision groups

    Contact: einzig@hettyeinzig.co.uk


    • 1 hr 8 min
    Reflecting on Supervision and Systems in Coaching - A Conversation with Eve Turner

    Reflecting on Supervision and Systems in Coaching - A Conversation with Eve Turner

    For me, all my work is about “not business as usual”, because I think I'm conscious of the challenges of supporting a system that I think is broken. 

    Join coach, supervisor and author, Eve Turner, in conversation with Yannick Jacob as they explore the role of coaching supervision.

    In this wide-ranging discussion, Eve and Yannick explore:

    The role of coaching supervisionUsing recorded sessionsClarifying supervisionThe three functions of supervisionTechniques for generating supervisory awarenessReflective practice skillsThe importance of the contract in coachingTime To Think supervisionBringing the system into the roomMaking supervision funClimate and ecological-crisis coachingWhat is transformation in coaching

     About Eve Turner

    Eve has had three careers, in music, broadcasting and now coaching and supervision.  She sees their links through her interest in communication, collaboration and interrelationships.  

    As a classical guitarist and then a willing, if not very able, orchestral conductor, Eve learned how the whole can be so much more than the sum of the parts and how the quality of the communication and relationships affected the outcome.  


    She was a journalist, senior leader and internal coach in the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) before setting up her own practice.  Eve has won many awards for her research, writing, coaching and supervision.  

    She does extensive volunteering alongside a busy practice: this includes co-founding and being part of the coordinating group for the Climate Coaching Alliance, founding and co-leading the Global Supervisors’ Network, and as immediate past chair of the coaching and supervision professional body APECS, and volunteering for the AC and EMCC.  


    Eve’s books include ‘Ecological and Climate-conscious Coaching: A Companion Guide to Evolving Coaching Practice’ (2023) co-edited with the late Alison Whybrow, Josie McLean and Peter Hawkins, ‘The Ethical Coaches’ Handbook’ (2023) co-edited with Wendy-Ann Smith, Jonathan Passmore, Yi-Ling Lai and David Clutterbuck, ‘Systemic Coaching’(2020) with Peter Hawkins, and ‘The Heart of Coaching Supervision – Working with Reflection and Self-care’ (2019) co-edited with Stephen Palmer.  

    • 1 hr 9 min
    Working with Diversity in Coaching - a Conversation with Dr Towanna Burrous

    Working with Diversity in Coaching - a Conversation with Dr Towanna Burrous

    “It's all about the client. You may have a record playing in your head but you can also see me, you can see my challenge and also hear the potential fear of frustration or sadness as I explain what I want to do next. But you can also not ignore the fact of my reality and the systemic injustice that exists, even if you don't know enough about it.” Towanna Burrous

    Join Yannick Jacob in conversation with Dr Towanna Burrous, President of CoachDiversity Institute as they explore diversity in coaching and the wider ramifications of working with diversity.

    Unpicking the complex issues at stake, they address the role of education in diversity coaching, how coaches can coach across cultures and backgrounds, the importance of seeing beyond the immediate issue to the human story as well as exploring the patterns that black and minority clients might experience across multiple situations.

    In the process, Yannick enables Towanna to share her own story and experiences from her polymathic background to the legacy she wishes to create.

    About Towanna Burrous

    Dr. Towanna Burrous, President, CoachDiversity Institute, is a best-selling author, trainer, and ICF professional certified coach (PCC) based in Washington, DC. Towanna’s mission is to empower diverse communities through executive coaching as a much sought-after executive coach. Her role is to test, re-test, and ultimately drive the organization’s overarching vision, strategy, and tactical direction. The CoachDiversity team delivers training and curriculum for to-be coaches and customized diversity and leadership programs for corporate and individual clients.

    Towanna delivers custom keynotes, executive coaching, DEI, and leadership training and education designed to assist organizations in their efforts to equip their leaders and key contributors with the skills and competencies needed to excel in today’s challenging business environment. She uses her expertise to help businesses shape corporate strategies that produce positive bottom-line benefits. She is a trusted partner and problem solver for many clients tackling morale, employee retention, employee engagement, training, and development in the post-recession world.

    Towanna has a Doctorate of Education from the University of Pennsylvania, a Master of Science in Education from the University of Pennsylvania, a Doctorate of Divinity from Elbon-Solutions College of Ministry, and a Bachelor’s degree in Chemistry and Mathematics from Howard University.

    • 1 hr 15 min
    The Joy of Single Session Coaching - A Conversation with Windy Dryden

    The Joy of Single Session Coaching - A Conversation with Windy Dryden

    “my goal is to kind of actually convey some of the joys of single session work and maybe deal with some of the queries that your colleagues might have about doing that work in terms of not only the professional aspects to it, but also some of the financial aspects”

    In this conversation, Coaching Uncaged host, Yannick Jacob, talks with Windy Dryden, author and editor of over 260 books on coaching and therapy sharing his passion for single sessions.

    Together they explore:

    The premise that commitment is about long term contractsThe pressure for the coach has to deliverSingle session coaching as the beginning not the end of somethingRemoving the tension that comes from the imperative to deliverSingle session as a potential door into longer term workSingle sessions as potential awakeningsWhether multi-session contracts become a self-fulfilling prophecyEnding single-sessions and action plansWhether single-session work is better fitted for CBT/CBC approaches rather than person-centredWho is suitable for single session coaching and how to find outProviding free sessions versus paid single-session coachingManaging time when a client starts to just unload and talkImportance of contracting for the single-sessionThe use of pre-session questionnairesDealing with complexity in single-sessionsThe distinction between coaching and therapyThe power of limited time in creating movementAnd much more

    About Windy Dryden

    Windy Dryden is one of the leading practitioners and trainers in the UK in the Cognitive Behaviour Therapy (CBT) tradition of psychotherapy and in Single-Session Therapy (SST).


    He is best known for his work in Rational Emotive Behaviour Therapy (REBT), a leading CBT approach.  He has been working in the field of counselling and psychotherapy since 1975 and was one of the first people in Britain to be trained in CBT.

    He has published over 240 books and has trained therapists all over the world, in as diverse places as the UK, North and South America, India, Europe, the Middle East and South Africa.

    He is Emeritus Professor of Psychotherapeutic Studies at Goldsmiths University of London.

    • 1 hr 10 min
    Power and Partnership in Coaching: An Interview with Claire Pedrick

    Power and Partnership in Coaching: An Interview with Claire Pedrick

    I think it's a fantasy that we add value by trying to add value, because trying to add too much value impacts partnership.

    I'm discovering more and more that there's no end to the work that we can do and the work we can let go of to be fully working in partnership.

    Claire Pedrick.

    Join coach, author and coaching supervisor, Claire Pedrick, in conversation with Coaching Uncaged host, Yannick Jacob.

    As the author of Simplifying Coaching, Claire is passionate about helping coaches achieve more by doing less and empowering the “thinker” at every step of the way.

    Yannick and Claire dive deep into a wide range of areas including:

    How to listen to your recordings for greater insight into what’s happening in the relationship. And it’s not what you might expect!Claire’s light touch approach to contracting that ensures she never becomes the teacher or leader.How Claire aims to do the least possible that enables people to feel heard and to get new insights into what’s happening for them.The most effective tool in the coaching conversation.How coaching is not a dialogue but facilitating a monologue .The power of single session coaching and what this frees up to happen.Disconnecting coaching from goal achievement to progress in thinking.The ethical and practical problems of fixed sessions contracting.How the relationship can emerge without excess personal information exchange.Bringing a future focus to the coaching conversation. Contracting as a fluid, always shifting process.Practical steps to simplifying coaching.Partnership, power and privilege.De-powering yourself in coaching.Perceptions and communications of power.

    About Claire Pedrick...in her own words.

    I could say that I am a human who facilitates other people's thinking. I am a business owner. A Mother. A friend. A volunteer. An MCC Master Coach with over 13000 hours experience. The author of Simplifying Coaching and host at The Coaching Inn podcast. 

    All of these are true and each will impact how we start a conversation. With some definitions you might assign me power which I do not deserve.

    I established 3D Coaching in the 1990s to bring together the simplest and best learning from coaching to support people in organisations to have more effective conversations with an edge.  Coaching for more than 30 years, I believe that the essence of coaching is simple and that it takes time to learn to work that simply. 

    My training has been as a coach (Coach University), as a Systemic Practitioner (Coaching Constellations) and a Coaching Supervisor (Bath Consulting Group). While the rest of the 3D Team are delivering high quality coaching, my current focus is developing internal and external coaches through training, masterclasses and mentoring.  

    My learning lab is the coaches I listen to three days a week.  Based on those observations and noticing when transformation does or does not happen, my current learning journey is about understanding and sharing what makes for true partnership in coaching.   

    When I’m not working I love walking in the hills.

    About Animas Centre for Coaching, producers of Coaching Uncaged.

    If you want to find out more about becoming an accredited coach, check out Animas Centre for Coaching at https://www.animascoaching.com

    We deliver free, live introductory sessions on coaching throughout the month or you can book a call with one of our Coach Consultants.

    • 1 hr 21 min
    Moving From "I" to "We" through Team Coaching - An Interview with Georgina Woudstra

    Moving From "I" to "We" through Team Coaching - An Interview with Georgina Woudstra

    “The future of coaching is team coaching.”  

    With this bold statement, Georgina Woudstra takes us on a journey through team coaching as she’s interviewed by Coaching Uncaged host, Yannick Jacob.

    In this episode Georgina answers and explores questions around:

    What makes team coaching different from other disciplines such as individual coaching, facilitation, workshop leadership and team building.What she found frustrating and, ultimately, unsatisfying about traditional approaches to team development.What skills and attitudes are important for a team coach and what the journey from beginner to mastery might look like.Ways to introduce team coaching to organisations who might not know what to expect.The importance of chemistry sessions for team coaching.Why understanding the nature of a specific team is important and what it does to the way team coaching unfolds.How team coaching moves the conversation from “I” to “we”.Some of the mistakes new team coaches make based on their experience of individual coaching.How to create psychological safety in team coaching.The difference and relationship between the contract and the container.Whether a team coach needs to be an expert on team and group dynamics.An overview of the Team Coaching Studio competencies and team coaching wheel.The challenge and opportunities of working with HR and coaching commissionersAnd much more.

    Team coaching, Georgina says, is not about the quality of the dialogue between the team and the coach but about the quality of the dialogue within the team.

    Join us on our own dialogue with Georgina as we explore team coaching.

    About Georgina Woudstra

    Georgina has worked with individual clients, executive teams and boards in the public, private and voluntary sectors for over 20 years. Her speciality lies in coaching new and established CEOs, and CEOs in the making, as well as executive team coaching.

    She is principal of Team Coaching Studio which provides unique workshops and programmes to advance coaching skills, one-to-one and group supervision and mentoring in support of ICF credentialing to help others in the profession in their development towards excellence. 

    Visit www.teamcoachingstudio.com for more information or to sign up to their monthly newsletter.

    As a master-certified coach, Georgina helps executives feel clearer about who they are, what drives them and how they lead. She combines real presence and listening with a grounded psychological understanding and many years of business and entrepreneurial experience. Her style is challenging but gentle: she is direct, honest and asks the questions that others may avoid. 

    Visit www.georginawoudstra.com to find out more.

    • 1 hr 18 min

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