9 episodes
Fed with Chris van Tulleken BBC Radio 4
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4.6 • 59 Ratings
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Fed with Chris van Tulleken is a new food podcast, investigating the entangled web of forces that shape what ends up on our plates. In the first series, Planet Chicken, Chris digs into the story of one of the most widely eaten meats on earth - to try to get to the truth of why we eat so much of it, and what that means for the birds, for us, and for the planet.
If there's one thing Chris knows, it's what he should and shouldn't be eating.
He's across the dangers of ultra-processed foods: those nutritionally empty snacks that fill our supermarket shelves and entrance our kids. And at the same time, he's confident he knows what we should be eating: good, old fashioned whole food - recognisable ingredients, no mysterious additives, no harmful rubbish.
Something like a nice wholesome roast chicken, perhaps? In fact, in the van Tulleken household that's a family favourite.
But recently, Chris has been getting asked more questions - by neighbours, people on the street, even government ministers: and he's realised there's a massive gap in his food knowledge.
Sure, he knows what happens in our bodies once that delicious gravy-drenched chicken dinner passes our lips: but what about everything that comes before that? Where it's from, how it was reared, how it was processed? Can he say what toll the process of getting that chicken from farm to plate might've have taken on the animal, the environment, the nutritional content?
Because in a world where so much food comes via an industrialised, globalised food system; where we're subtly influenced at every turn by advertising and price tags; and where ALL food choices ultimately come with a cost of some sort - how much do any of us really know or want to know about the consequences of our dinner?
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8. Beyond the Bird
So we’ve got a comprehensive overview of the chicken planet we live on... Do we still want to eat it? And if NOT, what are the alternatives?
Dr Chris van Tulleken wrestles with the final dilemma: slaughter. Could he bring himself to dispatch an animal himself? Is he happy supporting an industry which kills animals in his name? And if not, what could he eat instead?
We explore the rise of the alternative protein industry – plant-based meat alternatives, lab-grown meat, or most shocking of all for some, actual meat abstinence. Veganism.
Where should we go from here?
And it’s time to revisit that initial question: what’s influencing our choices when it comes to eating chicken, what impact is that having – and are we bothered? -
7. Big Chicken
We're a planet addicted to chicken - and our appetites fuel a massive global industry... but is it one we should support?
As Chris wrestles with how he personally feels about this weird and wonderful bird, he decides to take a look at the business as a whole: a global industry that's cited by some as a shining example of a super-efficient food production system, one that could help drive food security around the world.
But others say it’s a cruel, destructive and outdated structure that makes a few people richer while exploiting others – along with animals and the environment.
In Brazil, one of the world’s biggest chicken and soya producers, our reporter Leonardo Milano hears accusations of threats and pollution relating to the feed sector; while in Africa, Chris learns about poultry-farming initiatives helping to make struggling nations more food-secure.
And then there are the other challenges that the industry is wrestling with: from antimicrobial resistance to the threat of another major global pandemic, potentially stemming from chicken farms…
So is there a ‘big business bad guy’ to blame – or does responsibility lie closer to home, with unquestioning consumers like Chris?
Produced by Lucy Taylor and Emily Knight.
Additional reporting, editing and translation by Fernando Otto, BBC News Brasil. -
6. The Fast Food Trap
Chris has learned how to make better chicken choices, and what those choices really mean.
So why is he STILL eating CRAP?
Like many of us, Chris is always trying to eat better food: healthy, high welfare, good for the environment. This kind of consumer demand is making the chicken industry better, in tiny increments. So why do so many of us give ourselves a pass when it comes to the food we KNOW we shouldn’t be eating, yet we do in absolutely vast amounts… fast food?
Chicken is at the very heart of this industry. As a cheap meat that doesn’t have a strong taste, can easily take on other flavours and doesn’t have any religious restrictions, it’s the ideal takeaway ingredient; from nuggets to chow mein to tikka masala.
And although we might be careful about chicken choices when buying it raw to prepare at home, somehow we don’t seem to mind turning a blind eye to the origins and nutritional content of our fast food favourites, especially if we’re hungry…
Chris discovers just how bad this food can be for both us and the planet, and why we’re powerless to resist it.
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5. Fine Print
Do YOU know what you're eating? Are you sure?
Dr Chris van Tulleken is keen to make good food choices, and buy the best chicken possible for his dinner. High welfare, tasty, and good for the environment, ideally. But it's not as easy as that. How CAN he make good food choices if he has no idea what he's buying?
Chris explores what we actually know about the food we buy, and to what extent we can trust what's on a label.
He also uncovers the startling truth about two very different ways that we buy chicken - lifting the lid on why sometimes, even the most moral meat shoppers turn a blind eye...
Produced by Lucy Taylor and Emily Knight. -
4. The Ethical Consumer's Dilemma
We’ve heard about the potential problems around chicken welfare. But how does that square with their impact on the environment?
Dr Chris van Tulleken finds out what it takes to produce the most eco-friendly chicken meat possible. And makes a devastating discovery. Welfare concerns, and environmental credentials, often pull in OPPOSITE directions. Does he want to eat the happiest birds, or the ones kindest to the planet?
Halfway through his poultry quest, Chris remains massively conflicted: he loves chicken, but some of what he’s discovered makes him question how much he eats it. Will he still be able to look at it the same way as he goes deeper down the rabbit hole? And more importantly, should he keep serving it up to the family?
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3. U OK Hen?
We eat chicken. A LOT of it. We might love the taste, but what about how we're treating those birds?
After witnessing first-hand the reality of indoor chicken farming - how most of the chicken we eat is raised - Dr Chris van Tulleken wants to know: are the birds happy enough, or is our method of rearing cheap chicken actually cruel?
If so, what’s the ‘happier’ alternative – and do carnivores like Chris care enough to pay the price for that, or does a love of meat ultimately trump ethics?
Chris battles with his conscience, and finds the answer hard to stomach.
Produced by Lucy Taylor and Emily Knight.
Archive audio:
- VIVA broiler investigation video (2021)
- BBC and Channel 4 news reports on battery cage ban (2012)
Customer Reviews
Wow, thought provoking
Can’t lie, the last episode really got me questioning what I choose to eat and just how ethical I really am. Great listen all the way through. Highlighting pros & cons and letting you the consumer decide, once the facts are presented, what options are available when sourcing your Sunday roast.
Love Chris’ presenting style, always know you’re in safe hands.
Thorough and detailed
I really appreciate that this is covered from so many angles and in such detail. Based on his book and other podcast series, I think Chris Van Tullekan really tried to cover every perspective, rather than just the easy ones. I’d have preferred a little more discussion and digging down with the Viva CEO - how do they target the farms they choose? Do they target some farms and find there aren’t any animal cruelty exposures to make?
I don’t eat chicken myself, but I was interested to find out how he went about this. I haven’t been disappointed. I hope it may cause some people to think about ALL the chicken they eat, not just the fresh supermarket stuff. Maybe some will even decide to eat less animal protein and increase how much of their diet comes directly from plants, as recommended by Mike Berners-Lee in one of these episodes.
Another really interesting CVT podcast
I recently became vegetarian and this podcast has cemented my feelings, but even if you are a meat eater this is a really fascinating insight into the meat industry, the history of chicken farming and info on how to eat more ethically. I’d recommend to anyone interested in where their food comes from