4 episodes

Two lapsed Nature editors, Andy Marshall and Juan-Carlos Lopez, have a conversation and a cocktail with experts in translational research and biomedicine

The Translational Mixer Andy Marshall

    • Science

Two lapsed Nature editors, Andy Marshall and Juan-Carlos Lopez, have a conversation and a cocktail with experts in translational research and biomedicine

    Episode 4: Dan Kaufman on off-the-shelf cell therapy and Manhattans

    Episode 4: Dan Kaufman on off-the-shelf cell therapy and Manhattans

    UCSD's  Dan Kaufman, an innovator in the field of induced pluripotent cell (iPSC)-derived natural killer cell therapies, talks to Andy and JC about the latest in allogeneic and autologous immune and regenerative cell therapies at the 2024 Keystone symposium on Emerging Cell Therapies.   

    02:55 Sourcing and expanding NK cells
    05:59 Off-the-shelf versus self
    09:26. Clinical trials and manufacturing
    13:40. Stealth, immune cloaking and protein manufacture
    16:51. Safety, cost, availability and standardization 
    22:00. Stampede into autoimmune disease
    28:59. Neurological cell therapies and beyond
    33:30. Off the shelf and in vivo engineering
    38:13. Commercialization headaches
    39:51. Dan’s drink 

    The Manhattan:
    2 Oz rye whiskey, 
    1 Oz sweet vermouth, 
    2 dashes aromatic bitters. 
    DIRECTIONS: Stir on ice for 45 sec and strain over a coupe glass. Garnish with a maraschino cherry.

    The Mixer music “Pour Me Another” courtesy of Smooth Moves!

    • 44 min
    Episode 3: Kiran Musunuru, gene and base editors hit the clinic and a Bloody Mary mix

    Episode 3: Kiran Musunuru, gene and base editors hit the clinic and a Bloody Mary mix

    UPenn's  Kiran Musunuru, a human geneticist and practicing cardiologist who has pioneered the translation of gene- and base-editing approaches, talks to JC and Andy about the latest clinical results and modalities discussed at the 2024 Keystone symposium on Precision Genome Engineering.   

    4:07 Impacting patients
    6:44 In vivo editing in different liver diseases
    11:37 The FDA stance on programmable therapy
    19:41 Base-editors march into the clinic
    25:54 Multiplexing with base editors
    28:57 Reaching broader patient populations
    33:32 Investigator-initiated trials
    39:27 Prime and epigenetic editing
    44:34 Excitement around Bridge RNAs 

    47:15 Kiran’s mocktail
    Bloody Mary 3 Ways
    4oz (120 ml) tomato juice
    1/2oz (15 ml) fresh lemon juice
    1/4oz (7 ml) Worcestershire sauce
    1/2 barspoon (3 ml) prepared horseradish, or to taste
    2 dashes Tabasco, or to taste
    Celery stick, for garnish
    Salt and freshly ground pepper
    Your choice of pickled vegetables, skewered on a cocktail pick, for garnish

    DIRECTIONS: Add the tomato juice, lemon juice, Worcestershire, horseradish, and Tabasco to a shaker tin with ice and gently shake for 5 seconds.  Strain into a chilled double rocks glass over a large ice cube. Garnish with the celery stick, salt, pepper, and pickled vegetables and serve.

    For alcoholophiles, add 2oz (60 ml) vodka to the tomato juice, lemon, Worcestershire, horseradish and Tabasco. Enjoy!

    Refs:
    Gilmore et al. CRISPR-Cas9 In Vivo Gene Editing for Transthyretin Amyloidosis. N Engl J Med 385, 493-502 (2021) DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2107454

    Chiesa et al . Base-edited CAR7 T cells for relapsed T-cell acute lymphoblastic leukemia.  N Engl J Med 389, 899-910 (2023) DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2300709

    Longhurst et al. CRISPR-Cas9 In Vivo Gene Editing of KLKB1 for Hereditary Angioedema N Engl J Med 390, 432-441 (2024) DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2309149

    Durrant et al. Bridge RNAs direct modular and programmable recombination of target and donor DNA.  https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.01.24.577089v1

    Keystone Meeting on Precision Genome Engineering

    Somatic Cell Genome Editing Consortium

    The Mixer music “Pour Me Another” courtesy of Smooth Moves!

    • 49 min
    Episode 2: Eric Topol, multimodal AI models in medicine, and a glass of Merlot

    Episode 2: Eric Topol, multimodal AI models in medicine, and a glass of Merlot

    Scripps' Eric Topol is a visionary in the application of artificial intelligence to medicine.  He has a wide-ranging conversation with JC and Andy about : 
    02:52 Multimodal AI is coming
    06:44 FDA-approved AI software
    10:02 How to validate AI models?
    12:50 Synthetic doctor’s notes and other early applications
    15:38 Thinking about the model and its training
    19:28 Dealing with hallucination and GPT5
    24:13 Low-to-middle income countries 
    27:40 Uptake by the medical community
    29:15 Open or proprietary?
    35:46 What to do with the data?
    39:46 Eric’s elixir



    1) His September 2023 Science editorial,
    2) Derma Sensor.  
    3) Wowser package AMIE (Articulate Medical Intelligence Explorer) a descendant of MedPalm 2 
    4) A recent Science essay on diagnoses. 
    Eric’s Elixir: 
    Pinot Noir!
    Marimar Mas Cavalls Pinot Noir 2018 from Russian River Valley, CA, USA.
    Cristom Marjorie Vineyard Pinot Noir 2021 from Villamette Valley, OR, USA
    Racines Pinot Noir Santa Rita Hills 2017 from Santa Rita Hills, CA, USA



    The Mixer music “Pour Me Another” courtesy of Smooth Moves!

    • 41 min
    Episode 1: Pete Kirkpatrick, mRNA therapeutics and Espresso Martinis

    Episode 1: Pete Kirkpatrick, mRNA therapeutics and Espresso Martinis

    Pete Kirkpatrick,  Chief  Editor of  Nature  Reviews  Drug  Discovery, gives Andy and JC the lowdown on a  Nature Conference  on RNA  therapeutics and what innovations he is seeing in the field of mRNA therapies.

    01:44 Nature conference on RNA therapies
    08:11 Differences between mRNA therapeutics and mRNA vaccines
    14:24 mRNA chemistries
    18:08 mRNA manufacturing
    22:05 mRNA delivery
    27:21 Delivering LNPs to organs other than liver
    34:25 Targeting RNA with small molecules
    39:35  RNA-guided CRISPR, base and prime editing therapies
    48:35 Pete’s tipple


    Pete's tipple of choice: 

    Expresso Martini
    1.5 Oz vodka, 1 Oz coffee liqueur, 1.5 Oz espresso.
    Shake over large ice cubes for 10-12 sec and strain into a Martini glass. 
    Garnish with roasted coffee beans.
    (N.B. Ideally, 1.5 Oz of espresso should come from ~20 g of ground coffee.)



    The Mixer music “Pour Me Another” courtesy of Smooth Moves!

    • 50 min

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