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Inside the world of crisis managers and spin doctors as David Yelland and Simon Lewis watch the week's biggest PR disasters unfold. In each episode our hosts go behind the scenes of the latest news stories and find out how, where and when it all began to hit the fan.
When It Hits The Fan is hosted by two of the most influential and experienced people in the game; David Yelland is the former editor of the Sun and alongside him is Simon Lewis, former trouble-shooter for the Queen and Gordon Brown, as well as for major corporations like the Nat West, Vodafone and British Gas. Together they bring decades of experience in both creating and managing crises. They'll share all they know about what's keeping those big stories in and out of the news.

When It Hits the Fan BBC Radio 4

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    • 4.8 • 116 Ratings

Inside the world of crisis managers and spin doctors as David Yelland and Simon Lewis watch the week's biggest PR disasters unfold. In each episode our hosts go behind the scenes of the latest news stories and find out how, where and when it all began to hit the fan.
When It Hits The Fan is hosted by two of the most influential and experienced people in the game; David Yelland is the former editor of the Sun and alongside him is Simon Lewis, former trouble-shooter for the Queen and Gordon Brown, as well as for major corporations like the Nat West, Vodafone and British Gas. Together they bring decades of experience in both creating and managing crises. They'll share all they know about what's keeping those big stories in and out of the news.

    Apple’s ad backlash, 'I’m not your mum' and Zahawi’s exit strategy

    Apple’s ad backlash, 'I’m not your mum' and Zahawi’s exit strategy

    This week, two of the world’s biggest tech companies have found themselves in PR crises of their own making. Why did Apple's new iPad Pro 'crush' advert misfire so badly? Meanwhile at Baidu - China’s biggest search engine - its PR boss has lost her job after videos of her promoting a toxic work culture went viral.
    David Yelland and Simon Lewis go to the heart of a secret and little understood reputational war and look at the real battle between the west coast of America and China’s Silicon Valley.
    And - bowing out gracefully. How Nadhim Zahawi’s exit strategy from politics ticked all the PR boxes.
    Producer: Eve Streeter
    Editor: Sarah Teasdale
    Executive Producer: William Miller
    Music by Eclectic Sounds
    A Raconteur production for BBC Radio 4

    • 28 min
    Co-op Live, political spin and inside the Trumpian bubble

    Co-op Live, political spin and inside the Trumpian bubble

    David Yelland and Simon Lewis discuss Manchester’s Co-op Live arena opening delays – will these prove to cause long-term reputational damage to the great north-western institution, or will they be a blip that's soon forgotten?
    Also, why did so-called "well-placed sources" in Westminster seek to spin the London Mayoral Election result after the polls had closed? Was it good PR?
    And how’s it going for Donald Trump trying to spin from inside his Manhattan court room? David and Simon peak inside the Trumpian bubble and look at how PR advisors sometimes protect the rich and powerful from bad news.
    Producer: Eve Streeter
    Editor: Sarah Teasdale
    Executive Producer: William Miller
    Music by Eclectic Sounds
    A Raconteur production for BBC Radio 4

    • 28 min
    Huw Edwards, PR speak and runaway horses

    Huw Edwards, PR speak and runaway horses

    David Yelland and Simon Lewis discuss the resignation of Huw Edwards and how the BBC has handled this ongoing crisis – its PR, its strategy and the enduring power of the tabloids in this country to throw an incendiary device into famous places.
    They also lift the lid on the art of euphemistic spin and how the language of PR was used in the Post Office IT Horizon scandal - or should we say “anomaly”?
    And, runaway horses - how the Army responded to the surreal and shocking Household Cavalry rampage through central London and why you’ll now find a significant number of former Army officers in PR.
    Producer: Eve Streeter
    Editor: Sarah Teasdale
    Executive Producer: William Miller
    Music by Eclectic Sounds
    A Raconteur production for BBC Radio 4

    • 28 min
    Matthew Freud special

    Matthew Freud special

    In a special episode of When It Hits the Fan, Simon Lewis and David Yelland talk to Matthew Freud about his 40-year career at the head of one of the most influential PR businesses in the world. Freud Communications has promoted and protected the reputations of the biggest names in Britain.
    Born into the famous Freud family, he married into a global media dynasty to become Rupert Murdoch's son-in-law. He has kept the secrets of the rich and the powerful as well as advising prime ministers and pop stars.
    In this rare broadcast interview, Matthew Freud discusses power, politics and his views on British public life from his unique perspective at the pinnacle of public relations.
    Producer: Eve Streeter
    Editor: Sarah Teasdale
    Executive Producer: William Miller
    Music by Eclectic Sounds
    A Raconteur production for BBC Radio 4

    • 35 min
    Dorothy Byrne special

    Dorothy Byrne special

    On When It Hits the Fan, we often talk about crises as if they should be avoided at all costs. But Dorothy Byrne, the former head of News and Current Affairs at Channel 4, is living proof that walking towards the fan is often a hallmark of people that effect positive change.
    In this special deep-dive interview, David Yelland and Simon Lewis talk to Dorothy about the relationship between PR and journalism, being lobbied, and her fearless approach to reporting the truth – including her 2019 MacTaggart lecture when she called the then prime minister a “known liar”.
    Producer: Eve Streeter
    Editor: Sarah Teasdale
    Executive Producer: William Miller
    Music by Eclectic Sounds
    A Raconteur production for BBC Radio 4

    • 28 min
    Mick Lynch special

    Mick Lynch special

    In this special episode, David Yelland and Simon Lewis talk to Mick Lynch, the leader of the RMT, about how to get your point across.
    We seem to be living through a time when words too often fail us. But there are some people in our body politic whose words cut through - regardless of our own thoughts on their views. Many of Mick Lynch's head-to-heads with journalists and politicians have gone viral. Like - when speaking directly to a government minister - “He’s lying… you are telling lies.” To a journalist: "You do come up with the most remarkable twaddle,” and, during a speech, his rallying call: "We refuse to be poor anymore.” He even managed to win public sympathy for that most unpopular of disruptions – a nationwide train strike.
    How does he do it?
    Producer: Eve Streeter
    Editor: Sarah Teasdale
    Executive Producer: William Miller
    Music by Eclectic Sounds
    A Raconteur production for BBC Radio 4

    • 28 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
116 Ratings

116 Ratings

vanessalouwill ,

Intelligent insightful conversation

Thoroughly enjoying this podcast and have already recommended it to three people, Simon and David are the sort of people you would like to be stuck in a lift with

SJCgypsy ,

Wisdom + humour = brilliant

My favourite podcast of the week. The hosts have such brilliant chemistry, gentle humour and have such an incredible breadth of experience between them that they generously share. Two guys still at the absolute top of their game, more episodes please!

Loz mk2 ,

Bottled it

I feel bad for not giving a 4/5 star review as this is a brilliant show and generally delivers top quality. But to not discuss the biggest PR fan hitter of the year so far - Hester, TPP and Tory donations is a cop
Out . I’m also surprised there isn’t another look at Red Bull as they suspend the female team member. A damp squib this one where the fan wasn’t turned on and nothing was in Danger of hitting it.

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