Talk About Cancer Serena Hu

Reema shared how her cancer experience might have been similar to and different from someone who is not an oncologist, and how this experience has influenced the way she practices medicine today.

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My reflections on the conversation:

Before talking to Reema, I wondered how her experience with cancer might be different from people who are not doctors. The one thing that I didn’t expect was the extra layer of stress she had when family and friends continued to look to her to be the expert of her own situation. She definitely was the medical expert, but I can see how wearing the “doctor” and the “patient” hats at the same time would be very confusing and exhausting. As she gently reminded me during our conversation - doctors are humans too! And there are simply no shortcuts when it comes to navigating the emotional experience of cancer. 

Charles shared how having lost so many family members to cancer shapes how he approaches caregiving for his wife today, and how leaning into art and dark humor has helped him process and cope with it all.
 
Check out some of Charles' recent work: 
Short film: A History of WorryShort story collection: Slippery When MetastasizedColoring book: Pug Monster GalleryHuffPost article about air guitar workoutYou can connect with him on his website, Twitter, and Instagram.

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My reflections on the conversation:

I was struck by the way Charles framed his caregiving experience as being "on the ride.” I never thought about my own caregiving experience this way because it sounds a bit detached or somehow not invested in what’s going on. But I knew that was not what Charles meant and when I thought more about it, I realized how helpful this framing could be for caregivers - because it takes us out of the “driver seat,” which is what many of us would try to “inhabit” in a difficult situation because we feel it’s what we are supposed to do to take care of our loved ones. But when we do that, our own needs can come to the forefront and the needs of the person dealing with cancer could get lost. 

This framing also acknowledges that we will not have complete control over the situation and it’s not our fault if our loved ones have to suffer. Acceptance doesn’t mean that we don’t try our best to provide support, but it takes the pressure off of caregivers to keep searching for the perfect solution when often, that does not exist.

Nefa-Tari shared the devastating experience of being diagnosed with uterine cancer and ending her marriage soon after, and how she eventually found her way out of that incredibly tough period by advocating for her own needs and leaning on her faith.

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My reflections on the conversation:

Losing a relationship after a cancer diagnosis - whether a family member or a friend - can feel like the ultimate betrayal for cancer people. I’ve learned early on that some people just don’t know how to deal with all the emotions and responsibilities that come with a cancer diagnosis, but it still sucks when the person you thought you could count really isn’t up for the job. Like Nefa Tari and other guests on the show have mentioned, when dealing with cancer, you have to prioritize yourself, even if that means ending relationships that are so important to you. But the space that gets vacated will be filled by people who can meet you where you are. 

Sagar took us through some in-depth reflections about health, purpose, and the importance of having a creative outlet, which he discovered when his wife started to paint on his head after chemo.

Check Sagar and Sheena's collaborations on Instagram @myheadisacanvas!

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My reflections on the conversation:

We have heard about so many different types of creative outlets from the guests this year. Many write, some create art. I love that Sagar’s version of the creative outlet is a combination of both of those things AND it’s done in collaboration with his wife, Sheena. We often talk about how caregivers’ needs may be less prominent so this is a beautiful way for Sagar to bring her along on the healing process. 

Kandis shared how she picked herself back up one step at a time after a tough caregiving experience and how she eventually found positive ways to channel her grief. 

Some resources Kandis mentioned: 
Gilda's Club Chicago Ovarian Cancer Research AllianceTherapy for Black GirlsAlso check out Kandis' article about compound caregiving on Caregiving.com.

You can follow her on Instagram @kandi_koated.

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My reflections on the conversation:

Thanks to Kandis for sharing what it was like to return to work after having been a full-time caregiver for a number of years. This is another layer of complexity that caregivers have to deal with on top of the emotional turmoils that could come with grieving the loss of a loved one. And Kandis was absolutely right about feeling bad about yourself when you keep getting rejected by employers. I know that feeling and can only imagine how hard it would be to have to go to interviews when you are still trying to make sense of the traumas you experienced. Kandis’ experience reminds us how important and helpful working with a therapist can be when you are dealing with grief. 

Melody shared what it was like to deal with cancer during her childhood, the ways that experience has influenced different stages of her life, and the things she continues to uncover as an adult.

You can follow Melody on Instagram @lunapeakfoundation, on Facebook @lunapeakfouncation, or on Twitter @lunapeakfamily. You can also find more information about the foundation at https://www.lunapeakfoundation.org/.

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My reflections on the conversation:

I’ve been reflecting on Melody’s experience trying to talk to her family members about their experience being her caregivers. As I’ve mentioned in the past, I’m a big believer in processing the challenging experiences in life. Some like me, prefer to talk about the experiences, many find creative outlets like writing, visual arts, or music. 

But when I heard Melody’s family members’ reactions, it made me wonder if processing is not good for everyone? Or maybe, for some the processing is so painful that they need an expert - like a therapist - to guide them through it. So nudging someone to process when they are not ready or have the adequate “tools” to do so is probably not going to work so well. This is another example of how my guests’ experiences continue to help me understand perspectives that are different from mine.