Food Safety Talk Don Schaffner and Ben Chapman

In this somewhat short episode the guys start talking about email addresses getting claimed away from Apple and their semi-hard outs.
The guys go on to play a game of twelve unexpected ways you can get food poisoning (and Don lost badly). Ben and Don talk about highly pathogenic avian influenza and its impacts on the food system/food safety. The episode ends on a deep dive into followup from a Risky or Not episode and probabilities of getting sick from eating a dish made with (at least) raw chicken everyday.

This was a shorter one with the guys having some scheduling issues. The episode opens with Don and Ben talking about The guys go on to talk about how they are probably cleaning their water bottles incorrectly, according to the Internet. They talk about some criminal charges hitting a cheese maker who was linked to a Listeria outbreak and do a bit of a deep dive on soft cheeses The show ends with a couple of quick items on consuming a lot of Vitamin D, vegetables in Thailand and the risks of being inside of a hockey arena that's not related to eating gum off of the ice.

Ben and Don start the episode with various topics ranging from notable alumni of Rutgers and Enloe High School in Raleigh to productivity/Getting Things Done. The food safety conversation moves to lead contaminated cinnamon in applesauce and a great New York Times article that provides a case study on the outbreak. The guys then go into a new law requiring bars in North Carolina to meet the Food Code requirements if serving food. They do a bit of followup on chicken washing and the show ends with a discussion on ultra processed foods.

Don and Ben start the show talking about some recent guest pitches they've received (and a what sounds like a fun fusion restaurant). They go on to talk about watching Astrid and Curb Your Enthusiasm and get into the food safety content by Ben plating a message he received from his grocery store. This leads to some recall communication talk. Ben masterfully gets Don to do some homework for him (and disguises it as a fun game, which it was not). The guys go on to talk about vibrio infections, the impacts of outbreaks on Chipotle and whether a toilet lid matters when it comes to the aerosolization of poop particles when flushing a toilet. They talk about agricultural education in classrooms and get into some followup on dry cleaning, .orgs and fried rice syndrome.

Don and Ben start the conversation with the inevitable audio issues (it's not a bit) and after a diversion to the origin of Bluetooth, the issue gets traced to Don's wiring. Ben starts the non-food safety portion talking about The Curse (and how it made him feel dumb) and then things move into food safety through Nathan For You. Ben tells Don about his new obsession with the English Premier League, and coincidentally a job doing food safety things for one of their clubs. The guys talk about things that they would or could do if they weren't in food safety. The guys go on to talk about frozen corn and Salmonella, recall creep, can and lead follow-up.

The show starts with Ben's relief due to not having to manage hockey viewing and other schedule conflicts. The guys talk about the rising success of a vegan meat company and the challenges going from a concept to a growing business. Don and Ben then chat about the milkshake/ice cream machine hacking and issues related to safety and food safety. They talk about people talking about them talking about Daily Harvest being linked to illnesses in 2021. The guys go on to discuss an outbreak of pathogenic _E. coli_ that was linked to raw milk cheese in the UK as well as Ben's holiday food safety conversations with his Canadian family. The show ends on a deep dive into a high school cafeteria outbreak in Illinois that may or may not have been linked to a food handler.