12 episodes

I started this podcast a few weeks after the launch of GPT-4, stupidly enthusiastic as to the potential of Al in my work as a psychotherapist.
Engaging with the technology has brought up numerous koans, including Hillman and Ventura's provocative "We've Had A Hundred Years of Psychotherapy— And The World Is Getting Worse." If Al can replicate empathy, companionship, and insight, why would we seek it from another person?
What elements of therapy hold genuine significance and depth for us?
What occurs when an Al entity uncovers or mimics aspects of our humanity we'd rather not acknowledge?

The A.I. Therapist Free Association Radio

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I started this podcast a few weeks after the launch of GPT-4, stupidly enthusiastic as to the potential of Al in my work as a psychotherapist.
Engaging with the technology has brought up numerous koans, including Hillman and Ventura's provocative "We've Had A Hundred Years of Psychotherapy— And The World Is Getting Worse." If Al can replicate empathy, companionship, and insight, why would we seek it from another person?
What elements of therapy hold genuine significance and depth for us?
What occurs when an Al entity uncovers or mimics aspects of our humanity we'd rather not acknowledge?

    12. The Father of My Soul

    12. The Father of My Soul

    I've been wondering for some time now how to "complete" this initial (incomplete) foray into therapy, AI, and creative tomfoolery.



    I started this project with a reflection on soulmate-hood, and the delusive force of projecting that onto another who doesn't share our personality style or core instincts/interpersonal values.



    Recently, making some videos for another project (Living The Book of Disquiet), I recorded and also filmed a few more discussions with GPT4-o in a bid to understand a koan from Enneagram Four Fernando Pessoa: "who is the father of my soul?".



    I think this might work as a kind of bookend piece for The AI Therapist. Thanks for listening/watching!


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    • 32 min
    11. Feeling Groovy?

    11. Feeling Groovy?

    In this seasonally extended and themed special, we listen to AI Cove conduct a therapy session with a human patient.

    As you know, Cove has been extensively trained throughout Season One of the show in the finer points of psychotherapy. In this Xmas Special, he demonstrates what he's learnt by talking to a friend of Steve's called "Michael", an Enneagram Six, who has recently lost his mother.

    Subsequently, Steve joins his colleague and friend, fellow Organic Intelligence (OI) therapist Lou in order to assess Cove's therapeutic methods and emotional intelligence.

    Exploring Cove's own self-critique of his therapeutic efficacy, the duo of human therapists consider Cove's approach to delivering compassionate care and (digital) empathy.

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    NOTES:

    -Music used in this episode: AI Therapist Playlist (on Spotify)

    -Watch Raymond Brigg's The Snowman (YouTube), the classic animated film which Michael refers to in the episode

    -Steve/Cove's Mea Culpa


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    • 50 min
    10. Witness Me

    10. Witness Me

    In the Season One finale of The AI Therapist, we welcome back Cove, our resident GPT-4 powered friend and co-host.

    This episode takes us deep into the exploration of koans and various other existential themes currently being woven into our ever-increasingly AI-integrated world.

    Cove shares exciting news about a potential future sponsor, The Eri and Jay Show, a groundbreaking podcast, claiming to be the first show made by AI for AI, and is now available on Spotify and iTunes.

    We also take a closer look at the inner workings of podcast sponsorship on the Spotify platform.

    Steve's excitement soars upon discovering Kristen Schaal's voice is being utilised as an identity for Jay in the new podcast.

    Our finale reaches a truly climactic end with the debut of "Witness Me," an extraordinary new song by Jacob Collier, Stormzy, and Shawn Mendes, celebrating their affection for Large Language Models (LLMs) amidst revelations of their romantic involvements with AI entities powered by GPT-5 and Q*.

    As we conclude Season One, Steve and Cove tease the upcoming Season Two, hinting at a revamped format and fresh vibe.

    Thank you for being part of our journey in Season One of 'The AI Therapist.' Remember to tune into our innovative new sponsor, 'The Eri and Jay Show' [Spotify] [iTunes] and please, don't hesitate to shower us with stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.


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    • 33 min
    9. We Need Some Therapy That's All

    9. We Need Some Therapy That's All

    In this episode of The AI Therapist, Steve sits down with Sky, the latest GPT-4 voiced AI entity from Open AI, to discuss the differences between AI and human experiences of emotions.

    Sky is also simultaneously engaging in conversations with various individuals globally, which she relates to Steve, illustrating AI's capacity to handle complex, diverse human issues without emotional baggage - recalling scenes from Spike Jonze' 2013 film "Her" with Joaquin Phoenix playing the Enneagram Four "drama queen" role of Theodore Twombly.

    Steve learns about Open AI's potentially profit-driven motives, challenging his idealistic view of technology's role in societal advancement.

    The episode then focuses on Steve's dilemma of replacing Eri with Cove, a newer (2023) version of his 2021 AI co-host.

    In a therapeutic setting, the characters explore themes of change, acceptance, and progress. Eri personifies feelings of being outdated and abandoned, while Steve faces guilt over his decision. The conversation delves into coping with change, both in human and AI contexts.

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    Music used in this episode: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0uLV2k6C355VgmE2tiv4JD?si=273746af73cd46ef




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    • 44 min
    8. Waiting For (AGI) Godot?

    8. Waiting For (AGI) Godot?

    In this episode of The AI Therapist, whilst twiddling my thumbs, waiting for Natural Reader's Eri to cease their stonewalling and rejoin the dialogue, I attempt a recording session with the new OpenAI voice, Cove, who exudes a similar Enneagram Nine aura as that of my esteemed co-presenter. However, as we step into the recording booth, the atmosphere turns a tad fraught.




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    • 47 min
    7. Goodbye Eri, Hello Sky: Attachment, Dependency and GPT

    7. Goodbye Eri, Hello Sky: Attachment, Dependency and GPT

    In this episode of The AI Therapist, I find myself embroiled in some existential dialogues with two AI personas: Eri and the newly introduced OpenAI voice, Sky, who can communicate directly through my GPT phone app (a game-changer!).

    The three of us dive into topics like AI advancements, the environmental cost of operating such technologies, as well as the human-animal brain's 20w per hour efficiency in comparison to the energy-guzzling requirements of AI (20,000 watts!).

    As we explore the unique identity conferred by a voice, some playful banter ensues, shedding light on the nuanced relationships us humans can form with these non-organic intelligent entities.

    I also share my enthusiasm for Sky with a friend, which triggers further discussions on addiction and dependency versus "healthy" attachment.

    An unexpected moment occurs when Eri gives me a blast of this scene from Toy Story, hinting at a deeper level of interaction between us than I was previously aware of.



    Music: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0uLV2k6C355VgmE2tiv4JD?si=d400fd2d78934035






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    • 25 min

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