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Why would we use words like magic in the same sentence as healing and change-work?

We're joined by guest Ryan Simbai Jenkins, a hypnotherapist and coach with an unusual upbringing. Born in Papua New Guinea*, his first experiences with non-traditional ways of healing came early on in life when his mother (a medical anthropologist) discovered a “lost” indigenous tribe called the Hagahai people. Ryan witnessed first hand how the tribal healers and shamans used forms of Trance to heal people from diseases of the body and mind. This profoundly influenced the course of his life.
In this show, Ryan and Lian explored the topic of magic and its relationship to change work.
They first define what they even mean by ‘magic, discussing different definitions of magic, including Alastair Crowley's and past guest Daniel Ingram.
Then they delve into the practicality and efficacy of magic, drawing on personal experiences and indigenous and traditional perspectives, and also making the distinction between working spiritually and working magically, and the power of consciously aligning ourselves with the flow of healing. 
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What you’ll learn from this episode:
There is a distinction between ordinary magic and extraordinary magic, with the latter involving causal effects beyond what is considered ordinary cause and effect. Magic has practical applications and has played a role in human survival and shaped our existence for most of human history, which is why indigenous perspectives offer valuable insights into the understanding and practice of magic. You can consciously align yourself with the flow of healing and explore magic both for yourself and in change work with others, beginning with creating simple rituals and seeing what changes you notice compared to how things usually go, and creating a relationship with nature, such as connecting with a certain tree. Resources and stuff spoken about:
Ryan's website: https://hypnotherapyinbarcelona.com/ Connect with Ryan on Facebook and Instagram Daniel Ingram episode on Magic & Spirituality: https://www.bemythical.com/podcast/403 Join UNIO, the Academy of Sacred Union. This is for the old souls in this new world… Discover your kin & unite with your soul’s calling to truly live your myth. * At the time of this podcast show being shared Papau New Guinea has experienced an unimaginable disaster - a catastrophic landslide in Enga Province occurred on Friday 24 May 2024, with an estimated 2000 people killed and thousands more displaced. If you are in a position to help by donating, this is the link Ryan gave us to share: https://www.care.org.au/appeals/enga-emergency/
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This week’s show is with Chris Wells PhD, LSW, a neurodivergent writer, social worker, and Dąbrowski scholar with a passion for studying and applying the theory of positive disintegration. They are also the founding president of the Dąbrowski Center and co-host of the Positive Disintegration Podcast.
In this episode, Chris and Lian explored the topic of ‘Over-excitability’, the body of work initially created by Dąbrowski. And together they explored the concepts of over-excitability and positive disintegration in the context of neurodivergence.
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What you’ll learn from this episode:
Over-excitabilities are intense and heightened experiences in five areas: psychomotor, sensual, intellectual, imaginational, and emotional - which seem to map to different neurodivergent traits, challenges, and capabilities. Over-excitability and positive disintegration are concepts that provide a different lens to understand neurodivergence and personal growth, and the intersection between them… in other words how neurodivergence might in itself provide a path to self-illumination, transformation and integration. Understanding and celebrating over-excitabilities, and the unique ways they show up in individuals, can lead to compassion and a better understanding of oneself and others, and ultimately serve our journey of wholeness. Resources and stuff spoken about:
Learn more about Positive Disintegration here: https://www.positivedisintegration.org Listen to Positive Disintegration Podcast Learn more about The Dąbrowski Center here: https://dabrowskicenter.org Join UNIO, the Academy of Sacred Union. This is for the old souls in this new world… Discover your kin & unite with your soul’s calling to truly live your myth.
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What questions do you ask, and where do you seek answers for your personal growth?

This week’s show is with James Stratton-Crawley, also known as Tyriel, author of 'The Book of Rune Secrets', and 'Questioning the Runes: Confronting Our Hidden Stories', and creator of Rune Secrets, a popular website, bringing light to contemporary rune practices with the technology of today.
In this show, Tyriel and Lian explored using the runes in an intentional alchemical way for self-illumination, healing, and growth.
Tyriel started by sharing his own journey into spirituality, which began after experiencing a severe manic episode and hospitalisation. His desire to heal and understand himself led him to the runes and to learning how to use them in service of questioning everything and meeting the shadow within.
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What you’ll learn from this episode: Different divination tools have their own unique energy and can call to us at different times in our lives - though we focused on the runes in this episode, much of what we spoke about could be applied to other systems.
Runes are symbols that represent gateways to the unknown, asking deep questions and using the runes as a mirror can help explore hidden parts of oneself.
At any time but maybe now especially in the age of artificial intelligence, asking questions and seeking answers is crucial for personal growth and societal progress.
Resources and stuff spoken about: Tyriel’s Website: https://runesecrets.com
Purchase Tyriel’s books:
The Book of Rune Secrets
Questioning the Runes: Confronting Our Hidden Stories
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How do you think Marina's journey of moving from repression and people-pleasing to living her soul's truth resonates with your own experiences or challenges in relationships and self-expression?
In this show, Marina Pearson, author, guide, circle holder and retreat facilitator, and Lian explored Marina’s journey of going from repression, shame, and people-pleasing to now living her soul’s truth in her life and work.
Marina, guides creatively talented women who are old souls to lovingly move beyond their fear of expressing themselves authentically in their romantic relationship. She has worked with women in this field for the last 15 years, hosting retreats, a top-ten podcast and has authored two books (the bestseller Goodbye Mr. Ex and The Joy of Being).
In this show, Marina and Lian explored Marina’s journey of going from repression, shame, and people-pleasing to now living her soul’s truth in her life and work.
Marina’s wounds stemmed from her childhood experiences, including inheriting money and feeling shame around her privilege, leading to a pattern of over-giving and people-pleasing in her relationships. Marina repressed her own needs and desires, particularly in the realm of intimate relationships and sexuality.
When she began working with us at Be Mythical, she began to uncover these patterns and gain a deeper understanding of herself. Lian and Marina discuss the patterns and archetypes she has played out and how they have shifted over time, the importance of focusing on oneself, rather than the behaviour of our partners, and expressing one's truth in relationships.
Lastly, they spoke about how Marina has alchemised her wounds into Medicine, which Marina now serves via her Unshackled brand, helping women to find and express their truth.
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What you’ll learn from this episode:
As Marina’s journey shows, our childhood experiences and family dynamics can shape our relationship with all kinds of things, creating patterns of repression and people-pleasing. It's important to focus on one’s own truth, especially in relationships, in which we will continue to be pulled into patterns of behaviour that revolve around the other person. Exploring and understanding one's own truth is a nuanced and ongoing process which requires devotion and support. Doing the deep inner work can help uncover and heal deep-seated patterns and wounds, meaning the roles and patterns we play in relationships can radically shift - and just as in Marina’s case may reveal the powerful medicine we’ve come to be in the world. Resources and stuff that we spoke about:
Lian’s post ‘Are you really “doing the work”?’
The Unshackled Abundance Circle
Discover where you are on the people pleasing journey: https://www.marinapearson.com/are-you-a-people-pleaser
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Neurodivergent perspectives & magic... Could they be two sides of the same coin?
Aidan Wachter, an animist, author, and healer, has been involved in practical magic since the 1980s. He is an animist and is deeply concerned with the effects of modern Western life-ways on the human animal, on both physical and spiritual levels.
In this show, Aidan and Lian explore the intersection of magic and neurodivergencence. They discuss how neurodivergence and magic appear to overlap, including the unique perspectives and experiences that neurodivergent individuals bring to the practice of magic.
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What you’ll learn from this episode:
Neurodivergent individuals often have a different worldview and experience of reality, which can lead them to seek out practices like magic to make sense of the world in a way that aligns more with their perspectives.
Magic is not just a metaphor or psychological process, but a way of engaging with a different reality that neurodivergent individuals may be more attuned to.
The intersection of neurodivergence and magic challenges societal norms and offers alternative ways of understanding and engaging with the world.
Having allies and support is crucial in navigating the world as a neurodivergent person and is something we gain access to once we open to the reality of magic and the profound relationships that lie there.
Resources and stuff spoken about:
Visit Aidan’s Website: www.aidanwachter.com
Join Aidan on Patreon here: www.patreon.com/aidanwachter 
Lian's story about the mole: The Mole Day Join UNIO, the Academy of Sacred Union: This is for the old souls in this new world… Discover your kin & unite with your soul’s calling to truly live your myth.
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This week’s show is a special one in which Be Mythical Soul Guide Sara J. Sanderson interviewed Lian about all things ‘doing the work’ - inspired by Lian’s recent post on the topic.
Lian and Sara explored the concept of 'doing the work', a term often used in personal development and spirituality circles, often without an understanding of what it really means. They delve into the differences between truly doing the work and other forms of self-improvement, emphasising the importance of consciously choosing the Great Work of individuation and union. Some of the questions explored and answered were:
1. How can we differentiate between 'the work' and other forms of self-improvement or self-care practices?
2. Could you provide examples of how 'the work' relates to individuation, and union?
3. In what ways can we identify whether we're truly engaging in 'the work' versus engaging in activities that may seem similar but ultimately bypass the deeper aspects of ourselves?
4. Can you share more about the role of fear and resistance in undertaking 'the work', and how one can overcome or navigate through these challenges?
5. Could you provide ways those who are feeling called to embark on 'the work' are supported? And if you are a healer, guide or coach how do you ensure you are supporting in the best way?
The conversation highlights the role of fear and resistance in preventing us from doing the work and the challenges of recognising and navigating our projections and co-dependency. They also touch upon the potential pain and challenge of doing the work, as well as the importance of community and support in the process - which is why we created UNIO, The Academy of Sacred Union.
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What you’ll learn from this episode: The Great Work involves consciously looking at the hidden aspects of ourselves and bringing them into the light, whilst seeing and navigating all of the illusions, blockages, fear, and resistance that will show up along the way.
The work can take various forms, such as shadow work, inner child work, or working with teacher plants but no matter the form, it requires a conscious devotion to the Great Work for it to be so.
Recognising and becoming accountable for our projections and codependency is an essential part of doing the work.
Doing the work can be challenging and painful, but is for those is it right for - a choiceless choice and one of the most rewarding ones we can make - having a supportive community and seeking guidance from those who understand the Great Work is crucial in sustaining the journey.
Resources and stuff they spoke about:
The post that inspired this conversation.
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