41 episodes

An honest perspective from the 3rd team on the pitch... the referees. Through humor, analysis and education, we are slowly changing how people view referees and officials in all sports. We care and have a love for the game as much as any player or coach. Sometimes even more. Youth soccer (proper football) is a multi-billion $ industry in the US. Tremendous money is spent on players, competitions, travel etc., but almost nothing spent on developing the next generation of referees. I hope that this Podcast inspires, educates and humanizes the next generation of referees for their own development and appreciation from the players, coaches and spectators they need to work alongside. 

Refs Need Love Too David Gerson

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An honest perspective from the 3rd team on the pitch... the referees. Through humor, analysis and education, we are slowly changing how people view referees and officials in all sports. We care and have a love for the game as much as any player or coach. Sometimes even more. Youth soccer (proper football) is a multi-billion $ industry in the US. Tremendous money is spent on players, competitions, travel etc., but almost nothing spent on developing the next generation of referees. I hope that this Podcast inspires, educates and humanizes the next generation of referees for their own development and appreciation from the players, coaches and spectators they need to work alongside. 

    Navigating Nightmares and Boardrooms: Reflections on Management, Communication, and Presence on the Pitch

    Navigating Nightmares and Boardrooms: Reflections on Management, Communication, and Presence on the Pitch

    Ever woken up drenched in sweat from a nightmare that felt too real? I'm David Gerson, and that's exactly how my day started before a state cup game, with a dream that left me shirtless and unprepared facing the assessor's daunting presence. Tune in as I recount this chilling referee nightmare and its roots in the true pressures of officiating. But it's not all about the stress; join me as I translate the rigorous discipline and communication prowess required on the soccer field to invaluable life lessons that can navigate you through any professional landscape.

    Let's talk the subtle art of handling critique and command—vital both on the pitch and in the boardroom. I share stories of managing tension with a cool head and a steady voice, even when fans and coaches are less than pleased. You'll hear how I've learned to maintain authority without sacrificing empathy, a balancing act that has served me well in life. If you've ever faced a crowd of dissent or the challenge of conveying bad news with grace, this episode packs insights that will sharpen your skills and bolster your professional playbook.

    In our final act, the spotlight turns to reliability and respect—bedrocks of a trusted reputation. I recount a moving tale of a listener, Chris from Colorado, whose return to refereeing, inspired by our very conversations, was met with the familiar hurdles of game management and dissent. Plus, I muse on our collective power to foster change in soccer and beyond, championing the best in ourselves and those we encounter. Whether you're a referee, a professional, or someone who values integrity, this episode is about leading with confidence and the power of a positive influence.

    • 46 min
    From a Near-Fatal Experience to Professional Triumphs: The Life-Altering Tales of a Soccer Referee and Parental Love

    From a Near-Fatal Experience to Professional Triumphs: The Life-Altering Tales of a Soccer Referee and Parental Love

    Emerging unscathed from a brush with mortality, I was slapped with the stark reality of life's fleeting nature. The terror of a near-fatal car accident evolved into an overwhelming torrent of gratitude, serving as the cornerstone of today's soul-stirring discourse. Beyond the harrowing tales of survival, I regale you with the triumphs of my professional world—from orchestrating a marketing campaign that soared beyond expectations to embracing the joy found in the whistle and flag of a soccer referee. The fusion of professional success and personal passion underscores this conversation, revealing the multifaceted nature of our pursuits and the profound fulfillment they can bring.

    The heart of this episode pulses with the vibrant community that's rallied around Refs Need Love 2, a channel no longer whispering but roaring with influence amidst the soccer world. Imagine the thrill as I recount my tête-à-tête with the captain of the US Women's National Team, and the humbling realization that our platform now echoes from Guam's shores to Zimbabwe's savannas. We peel back the referee's black-and-white exterior to explore the art of positioning and decision-making, which steers the ebb and flow of the beautiful game—a testament to the critical role these unsung heroes play in every match's unfolding drama.

    In an emotional crescendo, we unwrap the poignant narrative of Bob Smith, whose metamorphosis from soccer outsider to impassioned referee and coach mirrors the transformative power this sport wields. His story is a mosaic of dedication, learning, and the potent influence of positive communication. As the episode draws to a close, I reflect on the awe-inspiring resilience of our children, whose growth and independence often leave us parents awash with pride and gratitude. Today, we affirm the importance of voicing our appreciation, holding our loved ones close, and approaching each day with a heart brimming with hope.

    • 42 min
    Navigating the Maze of US Club Soccer: Team, Leagues, and Teaching Referee Respect

    Navigating the Maze of US Club Soccer: Team, Leagues, and Teaching Referee Respect

    Ever wondered how the web of youth soccer organizations operates in the U.S.? Tune in as Matt Bernard of US Club Soccer joins us to untangle the intriguing complexities of the system. Together, we scrutinize the unique roles of different entities, from local leagues to national powerhouses like the ECNL and National Premier League. Discover how these organizations affect the competitive youth soccer scene and what the explosion of leagues means for local communities. It's a revealing look into the heart of American soccer, where local decision-making and national affiliations converge.

    The landscape of youth soccer in America is a tapestry of challenge and opportunity, markedly different from the open pyramid system of English football. We delve into the absence of promotion and relegation in the U.S., examining its influence on club dynamics and the evolution of exclusive leagues that reshape community competition. Balancing the scales of development and competition, we address the financial pressures on clubs and families, the unseen hurdles of long-distance travel for games, and the critical learning curve for coaches in fostering a positive dynamic with referees.

    Referee abuse is a troubling stain on the beautiful game, and we confront it head-on with candid reflections on how the issue is being tackled—or sometimes ignored—within the soccer community. Through real-life stories and a robust discussion with Matt, we shed light on the urgent need for a national registry to track incidents, the role of State Referee Administrators in resolving such cases, and the strides leagues like ECNL are making in championing a culture of respect. This episode promises insights and solutions, advocating for a supportive, educated environment that protects the integrity and joy of soccer for all involved.

    • 1 hr
    From the Mic to the Pitch: Kai Ryssdal, Host of Marketplace from American Public Media and a Soccer Referee!!!

    From the Mic to the Pitch: Kai Ryssdal, Host of Marketplace from American Public Media and a Soccer Referee!!!

    Ever wondered what drives a seasoned journalist like Kai Ryssdal to swap his microphone for a soccer referee's whistle? In an unexpected twist, Kai joins me to share his zest for the game and how the intellectual rigor and physical challenge of refereeing invigorate him. We navigate through the parallels of his media career and life on the pitch, uncovering the profound impact a referee can have on young athletes. His compelling narrative is a siren call to those pondering the whistle, highlighting the joys of community contribution and shaping the sport's future.

    As the conversation unfolds, we tackle the undervalued art of communication and empathy in coaching. My own journey in managing dissent on the field underscores the necessity for fostering an environment of respect, a point echoed in tales of pioneering policies from Southern California's AYSO to Utah's creative disciplinary actions. The raw realities of a referee strike in Los Angeles serve as a stark reminder of the high stakes in high school soccer and the often hidden complexities that referees navigate.

    Concluding on a reflective note, we address the striking imbalance between the professional demands placed on referees and their compensation, notably outside the top leagues. The perplexing handball rule comes under scrutiny, inviting a plea for clarity akin to the simplicity of Da Vinci's Vitruvian Man. And for a dash of star-studded charm, we reveal the delightful antics of public figures like Will Ferrell and Alexi Lalas, who don their stripes and grace the soccer fields of Southern California. My candid recount of a post-interview blunder with Kai rounds off the episode, a testament to the authentic moments that connect us all through our love of the game.

    • 33 min
    Behind the Whistle: Unpacking the Critical Role and Challenges that Football Referees Face

    Behind the Whistle: Unpacking the Critical Role and Challenges that Football Referees Face

    Ever wondered why football referees are often the unsung heroes of the beautiful game? Prepare to unravel the mysteries of the whistle with Adam Humphries from the Red or Yellow Refereeing podcast, as we explore the intricacies of football refereeing that go far beyond the rulebook. From the grassroots to the semi-pros, we dissect the practical learning curve officials face and the innovative ways they're connecting with the next generation through platforms like TikTok. Plus, we discuss the public's misconceptions about tackles and the unseen pressures that come with the job.

    Join us for a candid conversation about the significance of communication and the culture surrounding referees in the sport. Referees have more on their plate than just enforcing rules; they are integral in managing the match dynamics and shaping the respect within the game. We delve into the silent battles referees endure, the narratives spun by pundits, and how VAR is changing the game. It's a behind-the-scenes look at the high stakes, the swift decisions, and the need for football associations to step up and support their referees in the public arena.

    Rounding off our episode, we celebrate our tight-knit podcast community and the incredible bonds formed over shared passions. Adam and I reflect on the importance of engaging with our listeners, the thrill of exchanging ideas, and the collective joy that comes from connecting with fellow football and refereeing enthusiasts worldwide. It's a tribute to the power of dialogue and the ongoing conversation that keeps us all learning, growing, and appreciating every aspect of the game we love.

    • 36 min
    Reflecting on Life at 49: A Thirst for Adventure and the Art of Soccer Refereeing

    Reflecting on Life at 49: A Thirst for Adventure and the Art of Soccer Refereeing

    As I stand on the brink of my 49th year, David Gerson here, I'm filled with an overwhelming sense of gratitude and an insatiable yearning for the next great adventure. This episode is all about celebrating those personal milestones and the intricate dance of soccer refereeing. I'm sharing my journey toward the big 5-0, contemplating the allure of solo trips to Iceland or Patagonia, and inviting you to weigh in with your travel pearls of wisdom. Plus, we unpack the contentious no-call from the League Cup final—a moment that sent shockwaves through the football world and a personal tale of a red card call that sparked a virtual firestorm.

    Navigating the turbulent seas of soccer officiating, I delve into the nuances that define the roles and responsibilities of a referee. From the unique vantage point of someone who's blown the whistle and waved the flags, I recount a day in the life that swings from being labeled the worst to the best referee—showcasing the impossibility of satisfying every sideline critic while maintaining the integrity of the game. I also reflect on the joys and challenges of mentoring budding referees, emphasizing the transformative power of clear communication and the enduring value of standing by your calls, no matter the pushback.

    Finally, in the spirit of supporting the unsung heroes of the pitch, I explore how empathy from parents and coaches can reshape our view of the referee's world. As I share my experiences with Soccer in the Streets and guiding new referees, we consider the indispensable role of mentorship in cultivating the next generation of officials. This episode is a tribute to the dedication of those who uphold the beautiful game's rules, and a call to recognize the critical awareness and quick decision-making our role demands. Join me as we celebrate the complexities and triumphs of the grassroots referee with heartfelt insights and engaging storytelling.

    • 36 min

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