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Join Dr Caroline Ansley, Lindy Jacomb and Liz Gregory as they traverse the cultiverse. Journey with them as they unpack the cult playbook, talk to leavers of coercive and controlling groups in New Zealand, and share their stories. On “Cult Chat” our hosts talk with experts to gain greater understanding of cultishness and call for Kiwis to cult-proof their lives. "Cult Chat" is a home-grown Kiwi podcast where each of the hosts are uniquely positioned to host a survivor-centric podcast, bringing their individual experiences of high control groups to the conversation.
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Episode 31: Sam Jahara (Part 1) The Children of Rajneesh and Centrepoint
Caz speaks with UK psychotherapist Sam Jahara about her years as a child living in the communes of the Indian guru Rajneesh in the 1980s. They explore how the Rajneesh movement was so similar in many difficult ways to the Centrepoint Community that Caz was involved with as a child. This is the first episode of a three part interview between two women who explore the long term effects that cults have on the children who live in them. Listen up if you care about the impacts of cults on kids and are interested in accountability and repair.
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Episode 30: Escaping Utopia (Part Three) The Storytellers of Gloriavale and Centrepoi
Join Caz, as she interviews two accidental cult investigators about two notorious NZ cults. The first is Natalie Malcon, producer of “Escaping Utopia” the recent Gloriavale docuseries, and “Heaven & Hell; The Centrepoint Story”. The second is Anke Richter, journalist and author of “Cult Trip”, a deep dive into the complexity of both Gloriavale and Centrepoint. This conversation between three cult activists, each using a different medium to shine light on cult harm, will be eye opening.
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Episode 29: Escaping Utopia (Part Two) Gloriavale DocuSeries - A Chat with Cast and Crew
Join Liz as she chats with ex-Gloriavale film participant Rosanna Overcomer and film producer Natalie Malcon about the recent Escaping Utopia docuseries. We give you a glimpse “behind the scenes”, into the film’s journey to the screens, set design, casting, meticulous re-enactments, as well as the personal challenge of sharing one's story. We also delve into the ethical dilemmas of filming undercover scenes in India, sparking thought-provoking discussions on filmmaking and media responsibilities.
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Episode 28: Escaping Utopia (Part One) Gloriavale DocuSeries Dissection
Have you seen the eye-opening three-part TV docu-series “Escaping Utopia” that hit NZ this past week? Join us for a candid discussion as Caz, Liz, and Lindy share their reflections. Gain insight into the complexities of escaping Gloriavale and the support systems aiding those transitioning to freedom. Listen in as we uncover the resilience and courage of individuals breaking free from a closed community, and see the plight of group of members who are part of an Indian Gloriavale Community which has never featured on our screens before.
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Documentary: TVNZ On Demand New Zealand: Escaping Utopia: https://www.tvnz.co.nz/shows/escaping-utopia -
Episode 27: A Chat with Tore Klevjer (Part 2) - Recovery from the Trauma of Cult Harm
Lindy chats again with Tore, president of Cult Information and Family Support Australia. Tore explains some of the supports CIFS offers leavers of cult groups. The two talk about the importance of group support for ex-cultists, why cult leavers need psycho-education about cults, and how critical it is for survivors to talk to someone who understands. Tore explains why therapists need to be trained in the unique impacts of cults in order to deliver therapy which addresses a cult leaver’s needs.
Show Notes
Website: Cult Information and Family Support Australia
Event: Regain & Restore Freedom of Mind - Weekend Workshop with Toire Klevyer - 3-5th May 2024
Article: ABC Life in a cult - how I escaped
Audio: ABC The psychological tricks that make cults so dangerous
Website: International Cultic Studies Association
Book: Steve Hassan’s Combatting Cult Mind Control
Website: Gillie Jenkinson Hope Valley Counselling
Book: Walking Free from the Trauma of Coercive, Cultic and Spiritual Abuse - A Workbook for Recovery and Abuse by Gillie Jenkinson -
Episode 26: A chat with Tore Klevjer (Part 1) - Ex-cultist turned therapist
This week we share a fascinating discussion between Tore Klevjer and Lindy, both passionate advocates for victims of cultic harm, who also each have complementary roles in organizations which support leavers. Tore shares about his experience of being recruited into a group, and how he found his way out ten years later with his family. In this episode the duo discuss regrets, doubts and shame, and how to find a way forward as a family unit - while staying intact - after leaving a cult.
Links
Website: Cult Information and Family Support Australia
Customer Reviews
Informative and true life
Caz, Liz and Lindy have a good conversation and interview style as they explore coercive and controlling groups. These groups are way more part of life than most of us realise. They also give me the language to better understand these groups and concepts.
Recommend
Found the first two episodes really interesting, the three women presenting are articulate and intelligent. I’m looking forward to hearing more as well as some of the psychology behind, how to identify and help people with these experiences too.
Hard left??
This has been a really good informative podcast. But the latest Tom Sainsbury political episode is in real bad taste.