Healthy Church Growth Show Minister Madge Obaseki

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Elders Connell and Rhonda Hollins will discuss Christian marriage and relationship counselling which is rarely addressed in adequate ways in many assemblies. They are based in Chicago and run Me to We Talk podcast.

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TRANSCRIPT SUMMARY

1.40 Is Christian marriage being overlooked in the Church? Marriage based on functioning disfunction – based on TV, Reality shows etc? Address the marriage ceremony and not the transition? Excited about the wedding day, not about the marriage.

3.52 What made them start a relationship ministry. Pre-marital classes. More questions than answers. Marriage – God’s first ministry. Classes were more religious than understanding modern issues. Some Christian ministers were not equipped.

7.08 Real marriage counselling case-study.

10.58 Who did they learn from about marriage?

14.30 Is it ok to be unequally yoked with a life partner?

19.16 the tests in a relationship

22.16 Is it OK to disagree as a couple?

24.07 Like milk, there needs to be an expiration date on arguments

24.26 Do they only work on Christian marriage counselling or non-Christians too?

26.47 The trend for single people attending relationship classes.

28.08 Is there a line they would draw or subjects which would not be broached in relationship classes.

30.10 Non-Christian relationship counselees understanding Christian principles on sex before marriage. No condemnation.

34.18 Leaders – what can they learn about relationships for their own assemblies?

39.00 Relationship consultancy to other leaders in the Church available from Elders Connell and Rhonda

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Minister Madge Obaseki

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FULL TRANSCRIPT

Welcome to the healthy church growth show podcast ep. 56. This is the last in this present series of the podcast until the beginning of August. You will hear interviews I recorded earlier this year with Andy Frost, from Share Jesus international on resources he has developed for churches to approach evangelism easily.

So, over the past few weeks, I have been talking about engagement of your staff and volunteers, why this important and what aspects you should be focusing on.

Last week in ep. 55 I discussed:

1. The PURPOSE OF A PERFORMANCE REVIEW?

2. WHO’S A PERFORMANCE REVIEW FOR?

3. WHO’S RESPONSIBLE FOR CARRYING OUT A PERFORMANCE REVIEW?

The recording is in the link for this week’s show notes.

To continue the subject of performance review today I’ll discuss the other subjects to consider.

4. HOW OFTEN YOU SHOULD A PERFORMANCE REVIEW SHOULD TAKE PLACE

5. HOW TO AGREE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS OR CHANGES ARE NEEDED

6. HOW TO RECORD WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE PERFORMANCE REVIEW

HOW OFTEN YOU SHOULD A PERFORMANCE REVIEW SHOULD TAKE PLACE

In my time spent in human resource management, performance reviews were usually carried out on a 6-monthly basis. This period gives time for the member of staff or volunteer an opportunity to reflect and work on any issues which came up in the review. So, by the time the next review came round, the manager or team leader with the member of staff could discuss the impact of any changes over the last 6-months. I suggest 6 months is a good guide to aim for.

HOW TO AGREE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS OR CHANGES ARE NEEDED

Agreeing what improvements are needed in a performance review can sometimes be a bone of contention. Some of the reasons for this might be a new managers or team leader who may not be used to conducting a review. If you are in this position, I suggest you study the examples of Jesus reviewing his disciple’s actions, reactions, and responses to assignments. He often asked them questions. The best performance review sessions enable the member of staff or volunteer to address the issues raised, by asking them a question.  For example, you could ask, “How do you feel you performed?” “What would you do differently?” When you ask open ended questions like that, you allow the staff or volunteer to address issues rather than you telling them what they’ve done wrong which Cn cause conflict.

HOW TO RECORD WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE PERFORMANCE REVIEW

A template either printed or on a computer will have:

· the name of the member of staff or volunteer

· the department

· the date of the review

· date of the last review if there was one

· what actions were agreed from the last review (if this is relevant)

· improvements which have been made.

If you would like a template for a performance review, email admin@growthechurchnow.com and we’ll send you one.

LINKS

madgeobaseki.com

Engaging Church Staff & Volunteer PERFORMANCE REVIEWS ep. 55 - https://anchor.fm/healthy-church-growth-sho/episodes/Engaging-Church-Staff--Volunteer-PERFORMANCE-REVIEWS-ep--55-e12o26k

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FULL TRANSCRIPT

As a natural progression to developing relationships, today I’m covering staff & volunteer development, specifically their progression in the role they are carrying out. As usual this series are practical. I suggest you get your pen and note pad to take some notes! Also, if you have people who report to you, share the link to this episode with them so they can listen.

As far as team & staff development goes, you might be familiar with the terms one-one, feedback, evaluation, or performance review. If you’re not familiar with those terms, a performance review is where you talk with an individual on a regular basis about their performance.

Staff and volunteer development has always been an important matter to address. But, in these uncertain times, it’s even more important to ensure we keep our staff and volunteers engaged and willing to contribute to our overall goals. As a biblical reference I suggest studying Ephesians 4: 12.

There are many advantages to providing staff and volunteer development. If a review is done well, your staff or volunteers can see how they started in their role in your ministry, church or business and what progress they’ve made over time. An evaluation or performance review provides a road map showing what worked, and what improvements are needed. It’s a great opportunity to honour people’s efforts and provide guidance which are also motivating factors. This is especially important where people are volunteering because as a performance review can act as a non-financial motivator. Another advantage in carrying out a performance review, is you’ll find out about people’s hidden gifts and talents. Their gifts and talents may differ from the role they are carrying out in your church. You might find through a review that they are better serving in another department or role such as leadership! An added value for your volunteers is the skills they learn in your church or ministry might be transferrable and can be added to their resume.

There are 6 points to get the best from your staff and volunteer performance review. I’ll only cover 3 in this episode.

Today I will discuss:

1. The PURPOSE OF A PERFORMANCE REVIEW?

2. WHO’S A PERFORMANCE REVIEW FOR?

3. WHO’S RESPONSIBLE FOR CARRYING OUT A PERFORMANCE REVIEW?

· The performance review is for ALL staff and volunteers. That is from ordained and un-ordained leaders, any staff level and all volunteers.

· Basically, everyone should have a performance review. I recommend every six months as it provides an opportunity to address any issues identified and make adjustments before the next review.

· The person who manages the staff or volunteer or you oversee a department, would ensure you programme a review on a regular basis.

Next week I will discuss:

4. HOW OFTEN YOU SHOULD A PERFORMANCE REVIEW SHOULD TAKE PLACE

5. HOW TO AGREE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS OR CHANGES ARE NEEDED

6. HOW TO RECORD WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE PERFORMANCE REVIEW

LINKS

madgeobaseki.com

Ep. 54 Developing Relationships - https://anchor.fm/healthy-church-growth-sho/episodes/Engaging-Staff-and-Volunteers-DEVELOPING-RELATIONSHIPS-ep--54-e126drb


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What’s this episode all about?

Continuing the series on engagement of Church staff and volunteers this week, Minister Madge Obaseki digs deeper She discussed leaders intentionally developing relationships with staff and volunteers to get to know them for successful engagement which can impact the achievement of mission, objectives and strategies in local churches.

FULL TRANSCRIPT

Welcome to ep. 54 of the HCGSP. In Episode 53 I started a new series on staff & volunteer engagement. I talked about Pastoral Care. If you missed that episode why not go back & listen, the link is in the show notes. Engagement as far as staff & volunteers is much broader than Pastoral Care.

For example, part of my corporate business career was in HR and in particular organisational development. Whether you are running a business non-profit or a local church, successful engagement means your people feel passionate about what they do and are committed to the organization's vision, mission objectives & strategy.

But how do you harness that enthusiasm and passion? I think it’s simple really, get to know them! Might sound obvious, right? But, you'd be that some really don't really know their staff or volunteers, their likes, dislikes, what motivates them, what their key skills are etc. Without that knowledge, it's difficult to know how you can harness their strengths to support your organisations goals and as importantly develop their skills & talents.

Here are some ideas for staff and volunteer engagement:
1. Carry out regular one-one i.e., evaluations where you discuss their progress, future ambitions, what their strengths and areas for development are. These sessions could take place every 6 months. I’ll be going into more detail about how to do a one-one evaluation successfully in episode 55.
2. Hold a staff retreat in person if possible
3. Have a social event for your staff and volunteers where you can all relax and unwind. It is amazing how much you get to know people in a social setting especially where food is involved!

If you want to keep in touch and get access to resource to help you grow a healthy church, visit madgeobaseki.com/contact

See you next week by God’s grace!

LINKS

Episode 52 – https://anchor.fm/healthy-church-growth-sho/episodes/Engaging-staff-and-volunteers-PASTORAL-CARE-ep--52-e11ooo7

Website  madgeobaseki.com/contact


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WHAT IS THIS EPISODE ALL ABOUT?

Minister Madge Obaseki shares insights, knowledge and tips for better engagement with church staff and volunteers. Engagement is important to build trust and motivate staff and volunteers to work towards our mission, objectives and hence a healthier growing church. This is the first of a series addressing the importance of engagement. Different aspects of engagement will be addressed. The episodes will be deliberately shorter than normal so that listeners can use the audio to conduct team training and reflection on existing systems



1.10 What Nona Jones Head of Head of Faith Based Partnerships for Facebook says about engagement

1.35 What this new series in the podcast with the focus on i.e. engagement of staff & volunteers

1.44 The reason for the subject of engagement is that people are biggest asset.

2.15 This episode covers Pastoral Care for Staff & Volunteers from an engagement point of view.

2.22 Bishop Rose Hudson-Wilkin, Bishop of Dover & the 1st black female Bishop to be installed in the CoE appeared in Episode 46 called Who ministers to the minister focusing on Pastoral Care

2.49 Why Pastoral care is essential for the well-being & engagement of our staff & volunteers. but overlooked in some quarters.

3.09 Why pastoral care is even more important during the pandemic.

3.59 Why a written system of Pastoral care is important

5.19 Just one leader responsible for pastoral care and the disadvantages and why it is reminiscent of Moses and Jethro.

7.35 no formal system in place and the challenges this brings up.

8.32 Reviewing pastoral care system with your congregation and the tools that can be used. Why it needs to be anonymous.

9.48 More tips on church staff and volunteer engagement.



LINKS

madgeobaseki.com

Episode 46 - Bishop Rose Hudson Wilkin - Who ministers to the minister? https://anchor.fm/healthy-church-growth-sho/episodes/Who-Ministers-to-the-Minister---Bishop-Rose-Hudson-Wilkin--Ep--46-ev4ph4


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WHAT IS THIS EPISODE ALL ABOUT?

This conversation is with Chris Staron about his faith journey as a self-described Pharisee to fisher of men. He talks to Minister Madge Obaseki about how as Christian leaders we might unwittingly have an attitude of a Pharisee, and why this can impact our congregations.

TRANSCRIPT SUMMARY

1.46 Chris Staron’s background as film producer, podcaster of the Truce Podcast, Thespian and Comedian (improv)

3.00 appealing to a non-Christian audience as a believer.

3.43 The Accidental Pharisee

4.50 Being relatable as a Christian believer.

5.17 Opportunities to evangelise in the public space.

6.00 Truce Podcast and why some of the subjects appear to be controversial.

8.06 What does the Pharisee approach look like?

9.36 Why Minister Madge Obaseki took her discipleship book off the shelf

10.45 The importance of communicating with people of different backgrounds and traditions and studying the bible for ourselves.

10.58 What took Chris Staron out of his own fundamentalist views. The importance of sharing Jesus to enlighten others.

12.50 What specific incident led Chris Staron from Pharisee to Fisher of Men. Sharing the gospel in a workplace situation.

16.33 Why some non-believers might be angry with Christians OR against the faith. The importance of simply listening to discern the reasons.

17.45 Examples of how biblical verses are miscommunicated or misunderstood which can lead to fundamentalism or wrong doctrine.

20.33 The importance of Church Leaders, pastors clergy, sharing all aspects of bible and the consequences for not doing so.

20.52 Is the pastor the font of all knowledge? Considering the empowerment of congregations i.e. discipleship.

23.21 Chris Staron quote – “It’s easy to think we control all the pieces, but the best way is to teach the pieces to take control”

24.19 Advice to leaders in the Church – on how to stop being a Pharisee.

25.14 The Truce Podcast and where to find it.

ABOUT CHRIS STARON

Chris Staron is the producer and host of the Truce Podcast, which dives deep into history to explore how as Christian believers we got here and how we can do better.

I'm also the writer/director of two feature-length films, "Bringing up Bobby" and "Between the Walls" (on Amazon Prime, Netflix, TBN, DVD). He is the author of the novel "Cradle Robber", and the young adult book "How to Survive a Money Making Summer". He is a content creator, and also worked a crew member on "The Bernie Mac Show", "Hell's Kitchen", and more.

LINKS

Truce Podcast - https://trucepodcast.com/

BOOK - Cradle Robber by Chris Staron - https://www.amazon.com/Cradle-Robber-Chris-Staron-ebook/dp/B01M59BBPD/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=cradle+robber+Chris+Staron&qid=1621848517&sr=8-1
Christian Films by Chris Staron
Bringing Up Bobby - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EynY5e0eL3o
Between the Walls - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sInY_IMEnE
BOOK by Larry Osborne - Accidental Pharisees: avoiding pride, exclusivity, and the other dangers of overzelous faith.
AMAZON UK - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Accidental-Pharisees-Avoiding-Exclusivity-Overzealous/dp/0310494443/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
Contact Minister Madge Obaseki madgeobaseki.com/contact

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