20 episodes

In Defense of Fandom explores the creative output of the SPN Family, as Supernatural fans call themselves, and illuminates the ways that fandom can be an incredibly positive influence in our lives.

In Defense of Fandom Sadie Witkowski

    • Society & Culture

In Defense of Fandom explores the creative output of the SPN Family, as Supernatural fans call themselves, and illuminates the ways that fandom can be an incredibly positive influence in our lives.

    Season 2 Episode 5: Surprise cancellations vs planned conclusions

    Season 2 Episode 5: Surprise cancellations vs planned conclusions

    TV creators face the unique challenge of not knowing how long a particular show will last. Knowing if you’ll have 13 episodes or 13 seasons can radically alter how they’re able to approach the end, but it's a rarity to know when a show has reached the end of the road.
     
    *NOTE: Steph Dizon is no longer employed with Creation Entertainment*
     
    Spoiler Warnings! Want to avoid all spoilers? Use these timestamps to skip them completely:
     
    ALF: 6:07-7:07
    The Flash: 17:33-20:52
    The Avengers: 23:05-23:44
    Agents of Shield: 23:05-26:26
     
    Support the show on Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/in_defense_of_fandom

    Thanks to the voices you heard in this episode (in order of appearance):
     
    Mike Fisher: @fishstandsup
     
    Steph Dizon, Creation Entertainment: @CreationEnt
     
    Rob Benedict: @RobBenedict
     
    Jeff Hersh: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3354593/ 
     
    Craig Titley: @CraigTitley741 
     
    Jeffery Bell: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0068272/ 

    Editorial Support by Dr. Anna Funk: @DrAnnaFunk
    Music written & performed by Chris Scott: @Chrispscott
    Cover art by Liz Hand: @__ellie
    Additional Links of Interest:
    Video of Jared, Jensen, & Misha announcing the end: https://youtu.be/YVVFZQymnq4?si=8iReLZpIGEZqZnek 
     
    The ending of ALF, explained: https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/alf-nbc-alien-comedy-ending-explained
     
    Threshold TV show’s premature end: http://www.bullz-eye.com/television/interviews/2009/david_goyer.htm
     
    Why Firefly was canceled: https://www.cinemablend.com/television/why-did-firefly-get-cancelled-what-happened-to-the-sci-fi-series
     
    How to watch the Arrowverse crossover events: https://www.themarysue.com/heres-a-detailed-guide-to-watching-the-arrowverse-crossovers-in-order/

    • 30 min
    Season 2 Episode 4: Sitcoms and story arcs

    Season 2 Episode 4: Sitcoms and story arcs

    Does it matter if the show is more episodic vs narrative for how the ending is perceived by the fandom? How much does a show have to set up in earlier seasons to earn its payoff at the end? Let’s talk about TJLC, or The JohnLock Conspiracy in BBC’s Sherlock fandom, and the Chekov’s gun that was the premise for How I Met Your Mother.
     
    Spoiler Warnings! Want to avoid all spoilers? Use these timestamps to skip them completely:
     
    How I met your mother: 8:51-11:50
     
    Sherlock: 17:25-19:07
     
    **CLARIFICATION**
    First, in the previous episode I said that Banana Fish has the highest percentage of works tagged fix it. Although Toast did their best to pull a representative sample, we still can’t say Banana Fish is definitively the top show in this metric. There could well be other fandoms with even higher percentage, but that weren’t captured in that review.
    Second, I misspoke and implied that tag wranglers on AO3 add tags to works. That’s not accurate. Wranglers organize tags and sometimes create metatags that can be used to search or filter for subtags, but it’s only authors who can add tags to their own works.
    Sorry for the confusion!
    ***
     
    Support the show on Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/in_defense_of_fandom
    Have thoughts on TV endings? I want to hear them! 
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeuaL485NpQ3iqinVjq7GUAoId0gPqKU26LpQCntngiGhVHgQ/viewform
     
    Thanks to the voices you heard in this episode (in order of appearance):
    Mike Fisher: @fishstandsup
    Casey Mendoza: @CaseyMdoza
    Matt Kelly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saintmort/
    Elizabeth Minkel: @elizabethminkel
    Georgia Carroll: @fansumption
    Rob Benedict: @RobBenedict
    Richard Speight Jr: @dicksp8jr

    Editorial Support by Dr. Anna Funk: @DrAnnaFunk
    Music written & performed by Chris Scott: @Chrispscott
    Cover art by Liz Hand: @__ellie
    Additional Links of Interest:
    The Guardian, on the end of Sherlock: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/jan/16/sherlock-finale-smallest-audience-bbc-benedict-cumberbatch-martin-freeman
    Vox, on the end of Sherlock: https://www.vox.com/2017/1/16/14279588/sherlock-finale-final-problem-review
    Screenrant, on the end of Sherlock: https://screenrant.com/sherlock-season-finale-cliffhanger-ending-problem/
    Fanlore’s entry on TJLC: https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Johnlock_Conspiracy
    Rob’s line read of “Welcome to the end” (S14E23)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q4atKVpNOg

    • 30 min
    Season 2 Episode 3: Fanfiction fixit data

    Season 2 Episode 3: Fanfiction fixit data

    **CLARIFICATION**
    First, in this episode I said that Banana Fish has the highest percentage of works tagged fix it. Although Toast did their best to pull a representative sample, we still can’t say Banana Fish is definitively the top show in this metric. There could well be other fandoms with even higher percentage, but that weren’t captured in that review.
    Second, I misspoke and implied that tag wranglers on AO3 add tags to works. That’s not accurate. Wranglers organize tags and sometimes create metatags that can be used to search or filter for subtags, but it’s only authors who can add tags to their own works.
    Sorry for the confusion!
     
    Thanks to my background as a scientist, I’m always trying to answer questions with data. And wouldn’t you know it? Destination Toast was happy to answer the call! In this episode, we look into fanfiction on AO3 and see which tv fandoms are still trying to rewrite (or right?) the ending of their favorite shows.

    Spoiler Warnings! Want to avoid all spoilers? Use these timestamps to skip them completely:
     
    Banana Fish: 10:02-10:28
    TV fandom fix-its analysis, by Destination Toast: archiveofourown.org/works/54262792
    Support the show on Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/in_defense_of_fandom
    Have thoughts on TV endings? I want to hear them! 
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeuaL485NpQ3iqinVjq7GUAoId0gPqKU26LpQCntngiGhVHgQ/viewform
     
     
     Toast’s Graphs: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1wZbzYs7XpizYHXCKWt4Ntz2RYfVi-wvZ9dkV7fOLvd0/edit#slide=id.g2cb2539deb7_0_214 
    Toast’s deep dive into Supernatural: https://archiveofourown.org/works/54262792/chapters/140386390#main
    where Toast blogs about fandom data and many other things: destinationtoast.tumblr.com 
    Just fandom data: toastystats.tumblr.com
     
     
    Thanks to the voices you heard in this episode (in order of appearance):
    Destination Toast: https://toastystats.tumblr.com/
    Anna Funk: @DrAnnaFunk

    Editorial Support by Dr. Anna Funk: @DrAnnaFunk
    Music written & performed by Chris Scott: @Chrispscott
    Cover art by Liz Hand: @__ellie
     

    • 26 min
    Season 2 Episode 2: Putting my theory to the test

    Season 2 Episode 2: Putting my theory to the test

    I have a little theory about TV endings. Good endings are fondly remembered, bad endings kill fandoms, and divisive endings make them stick around forever (to argue!). So, am I actually right? Let’s find out… 

    Spoiler Warnings! 
    Want to avoid all spoilers? Use these timestamps to skip them completely:
    Avatar the Last Airbender: 7:37-8:30
    Dexter: 11:16-11:40

    Support the show on Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/in_defense_of_fandom
    Have thoughts on TV endings? I want to hear them! 
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeuaL485NpQ3iqinVjq7GUAoId0gPqKU26LpQCntngiGhVHgQ/viewform
     
    Thanks to the voices you heard in this episode (in order of appearance):
    Casey Mendoza: @CaseyMdoza
    Elizabeth Minkel: @elizabethminkel
    Rebecca Williams: @augustaquarius
    Jeff Hersh: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3354593/
    Rob Benedict: @RobBenedict
    Paul Booth: @pbooth81
    Richard Speight Jr: @dicksp8jr
     
    And thanks to Cassie, Erin, Taylor, Kelsey, Francisco, and Marissa for voicing some of the comments from my survey!
     
    Editorial Support by Dr. Anna Funk: @DrAnnaFunk
    Music written & performed by Chris Scott: @Chrispscott
    Cover art by Liz Hand: @__ellie
    Additional Links of Interest:
    My FMA fanfic (I’m both embarrassed and proud of middle school me): https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3627739/1/Escape-from-Auschwitz
     
    Statistics on GoT: https://www.statista.com/statistics/993970/united-states-engagement-game-of-thrones-by-generation/
     
    Fansplaining podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fansplaining/id1024216991
     
    As always, transcripts of the episodes are available at my personal website: https://www.sadiewit.com/in-defense-of-fandom

    • 27 min
    Season 2 Episode 1: What makes a TV ending?

    Season 2 Episode 1: What makes a TV ending?

    New season, new topic!
    This season, we’re talking about how television shows bring their stories to a close, and how that affects the fandom. We’ll talk about great endings and terrible endings. Shows that got to go out on their own terms and shows that were canceled, only to later be revived in a new format. 
    And of course, there will be discussion about the ending of Supernatural. A LOT of discussion.
     
    Support the show on Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/in_defense_of_fandom
    Have thoughts on TV endings? I want to hear them! 
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeuaL485NpQ3iqinVjq7GUAoId0gPqKU26LpQCntngiGhVHgQ/viewform
     
    Thanks to the voices you heard in this episode (in order of appearance):
    Lynn Zubernis: @FangasmSPN
    Richard Speight Jr: @dicksp8jr
    Paul Booth: @pbooth81
    Elizabeth Minkel: @elizabethminkel
     Editorial Support by Dr. Anna Funk: @DrAnnaFunk
    Music written & performed by Chris Scott: @Chrispscott
    Cover art by Liz Hand: @__ellie
    Sound Effect from Pixabay
     
    Additional Links of Interest:
    Lynn’s article about fans grieving: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-science-fandom/202105/how-fans-cope-when-their-fan-favorites-come-end 
     
    Sarah Z’s video on the end of Supernatural: https://youtu.be/M0QhgQ-g4C0?si=NfLR5hrStlzuJ0e0 
     
    Fansplaining podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fansplaining/id1024216991 

    • 24 min
    Bonus 5: Writing on The Winchesters

    Bonus 5: Writing on The Winchesters

    I was so excited to meet Gabe at San Diego Comic Con last summer! He graciously agreed to an interview for this little podcast, all about his experiences writing for The Winchesters.
     
    Tell me your thoughts on shows ending: https://forms.gle/d2KGqChpietazZh29
     
    Definitely stick around to the end where he answers some fan questions that I collected!
     
    Support the show on Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/in_defense_of_fandom
     
    Thanks to Gabe Gonzalez for sharing his time and insights. You can find him at IMDB, as Gabriel Alejandro Garza: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4509179/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr6
     
    When I asked if Gabe wanted me to promote any projects, he just asked we support the Wounded Warrior Project (https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/)
     
    Editorial Support by Dr. Anna Funk: @DrAnnaFunk
    Music written & performed by Chris Scott: @Chrispscott
    Cover art by Liz Hand: @__ellie
     
    Additional Links of Interest: 
    The Flash CW series: https://www.cwtv.com/shows/the-flash/
    Favorite examples of scary audio drama series: https://qcodemedia.com/theleftrightgame, https://qcodemedia.com/borrasca, https://www.grimandmild.com/bridgewater
    Supernatural comics: https://www.dc.com/comics/supernatural-2007/supernatural-1
    JD Garcia (body contortionist): https://www.imdb.com/name/nm13477952/
    Julia Cooperman (writing partner): https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6269516/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

    • 1 hr 25 min

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