Snacks and Chats.
A serious podcast, with a silly name.
Lani and Ben begin each episode by asking creative New Zealanders how they tackle that loaded question, “Where are you from?” and the stories go from there.
Episode 13: Jahra 'Rager' Wasasala
We spoke with Jahra 'Rager' Wasasala shortly after she'd performed her solo 'a world, with your wound in it' and the group show ORCHIDS at the Tempo Dance Festival. She spoke about the come-down after performing such works following years of prep, the conflicting tension that comes with the question 'where are you from'?, the problem with terms like Polynesian and Melanesian, not being afraid as an artist, the challenges of training institutions for young creatives, her mantra ‘The world as a woman’s body’, the creative influence of her mother and much, much more.
Episode 12: Rose Matafeo
Rose Matafeo talks about living in Ponsonby before and after it was gentrified, going to AGGs, being an afakasi Samoan, making a TV show, being a comedian, going off the pill, missing U Live, definitely winning an Oscar one day and her impending sense of doom.
Episode 9: TEEKS
TEEKS aka Te Karehana Gardiner-Toi discusses his stunning EP, The Grapefruit Skies, and the impact Māori culture and growing up speaking te reo has had on his life, and his music.
“Growing up with the language, but also the whole culture of being Māori – singing, or being musically inclined - is just a part of being Māori as well. It’s a given ay, it’s like a pre-requisite, if you’re Māori you have to know how to sing, do kapa haka and write songs and perform.”
Episode 5: Kanoa Lloyd
TV3 weather presenter Kanoa Lloyd talks to Lani & Ben about living a gypsy life as a child, the pressure that comes with publicly advocating for te reo Māori in mainstream media, dealing with criticism, being outspoken about abuse, and how starting out in children’s TV taught her valuable lessons about writing and presenting the weather.
And, what may be a first in Snacks and Chats history - everyone actually eats snacks during their chats!!
Episode 3: Lucy Zee
Creative producer Lucy Zee talks to Lani and Ben about growing up Chinese in small-town New Zealand, needing an apology from the people who made fun of the food she ate as a kid but think they know the good dumpling spots on Dominion Road, running away from strict family life, the beauty of being able to speak Cantonese and the difficulties of dealing with sexism in the entertainment industry.
Also, memes. So much talk about memes, pop-culture references, in-jokes, awkwardness and the Who Is Ben Lawson origin story.
Episode 20: Israel Adesanya
The Snacks and Chats team reunite with the UFC middleweight champion, Israel Adesanya. Adesanya talks about his “bizarre” fight with Yoel Romero, why he’s looking forward to the Paulo Costa fight, snobbery at the Halberg Awards and his speech that night, the humility needed to be a good fighter, how fleeting the joy of winning can seem, seeing a psychologist, realising the importance of protecting his own space and learning to love his younger self.
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I love this podcast. Lani & Ben do a great job at bringing great conversations out of interesting people. It’s thought provoking & is so relatable in terms of its identity chats. I love it - please make more! x
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