132 episodes

Hosted by Lola Robbins, Kyle Butler, and Jason Elam, The Messy Spirituality Podcast features conversations about life, God, spirituality, and becoming a better human.

The Messy Spirituality Podcast Jason Elam, Kyle Butler, Lola Robbins

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 4.8 • 76 Ratings

Hosted by Lola Robbins, Kyle Butler, and Jason Elam, The Messy Spirituality Podcast features conversations about life, God, spirituality, and becoming a better human.

    Last Dance: The Gifts and Costs of Deconstruction

    Last Dance: The Gifts and Costs of Deconstruction

    How has deconstruction benefitted you?
    What has it cost you?
    Do you have any regrets about your deconstruction journey?
    In this final episode of the show, Kyle, Lola, and Jason discuss the highs and lows of their deconstruction journey along with their hopes for the future.

    • 50 min
    Deconstructing in Space with Jon Turney

    Deconstructing in Space with Jon Turney

    In this episode, Jason speaks to author and "This is Not Church" podcaster Jon Turney about the isolation of deconstruction and finding answers when they seem hard to come by.

    • 48 min
    Has Deconstruction Made You a Better Human?

    Has Deconstruction Made You a Better Human?

    In this episode, Kyle, Lola, and Jason discuss how their faith deconstruction has changed them as human beings.

    • 42 min
    Love, Bread and Spaceships with Rob Bell

    Love, Bread and Spaceships with Rob Bell

    In this episode, Jason talks with Rob Bell about seeing the whole world as a temple, humanity's big "Why?", and the art of storytelling.

    • 37 min
    From Marine to Pacifist with Dillon Naber Cruz

    From Marine to Pacifist with Dillon Naber Cruz

    In this episode, Jason talks with author and public theologian Dillon Naber Cruz about his journey from the Marines to pacifism, the war in Israel/Palestine, the Trump effect on Evangelicalism, Christian Nationalism, and a lot more.

    • 53 min
    No More Martyrs

    No More Martyrs

    In this episode, Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss the fascination with martyrs within Evangelicalism and other world religions. Could this idolization of those willing to pay the ultimate price for their faith be unhealthy?

    • 43 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
76 Ratings

76 Ratings

Michelle the Change Architect ,

Honest and Challenging

The content is excellent. The space is safe. The hosts are thought leaders. The takeaways are challenging. Deconstruction doesn’t mean decimation; it is a restructuring.

kelly_88 ,

Open & Honest!

There is so much heart in the Messy Spirituality Podcast. Jason, Lola, Kyle are genuine & vulnerable in their sharing, and have such thought-provoking conversations with their guests! I appreciate how the hosts cover complicated topics and encourage you to embrace your authentic self in each episode... Highly recommend!

crashtx1 ,

One of my favorites

Messy is one of my favorite podcast. Jason is great at interviewing people, explaining positions on complicated topics, everything.

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