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Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with David Fitch about what it means to follow Jesus in the culture of our day.  Fitch sees power as the primary force shaping our culture, one that, as God’s people, we have to confront. Dave draws attention to the ways power has infiltrated the church, issuing a call for church leaders everywhere to confront their own use of worldly power, and to turn instead to godly power. He argues that this power is of a God who is not coercive, but whose power is one of presence for which we have to make space.
David Fitch, “Fitch” to his friends, is the founding pastor of Life on the Vine Christian Community, a missional church in Chicago. He describes himself as “a neo-Anabaptist holiness Pentecostal” and is on the pastoral staff of Renew Church in Westmount, Illinois. Fitch is Professor of Evangelical Theology at Northern Seminary, a member of the Jesus Collective and writes and speaks on cultural engagement, leadership and theology. His latest book is Reckoning with Power: Why the Church Fails When It’s on the Wrong Side of Power.
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For Alan J Roxburgh:
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https://www.themissionalnetwork.com/author/alan-roxburgh/
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Joining God in the Great Unraveling https://www.amazon.ca/Joining-God-Great-Unraveling-Learned/dp/1725288508/ref=sr_1_
Leadership, God’s Agency and Disruptions https://www.amazon.ca/Leadership-Gods-Agency-Disruptions-Confronting/dp/1725271745/ref
Joining God, Remaking Church, Changing the World: The New Shape of the Church in Our Time https://www.amazon.ca/Joining-Remaking-Church-Changing-World/dp/0819232114/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2NHGW8KB7L0SQ&keywords=Alan+J+Roxburgh&qid=1687098960&s=books&sprefix=alan+j+roxburgh%2Cstripbooks%2C130&sr=1-3
For Jenny Sinclair:
Website: https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/from-jenny-sinclair
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-sinclair-0589783b/
X.com/Twitter: https://x.com/home
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TogetherForTheCommonGoodUK
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/t4cg_insta/
For David Fitch: Links needed
Reckoning with Power: Why the Church Fails When It’s on the Wrong Side of Power
Substack:
X.com/Twitter: https://twitter.com/fitchest?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/fitchest
Northern Seminary: dfitch@faculty.seminary.edu


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Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Alison Milbank about the unravelling of society and its institutions, and the profound changes in the church. She laments that in her own tradition, in the Church of England, there has been a loss of confidence about its inheritance, both liturgical and parochial. She describes how mission has been separated from liturgy and how top down strategies are undermining the local parish. Instead, she affirms a local autonomy for the parish built on strong liturgical foundations around which many different ministries can thrive. The Save the Parish movement that Alison co-founded affirms a theology of place, where ministry involves building local relationships with neighbours whether or not they come to church: a dwelling, from which emerges a living ecology of love and care. 
The Revd Canon Professor Alison Milbank is Professor of Theology and Literature at the University of Nottingham, and co-founder of the Save the Parish movement in the UK. She is also Canon Theologian and Priest Vicar at Southwell Minster, where she leads on adult education but also engages in all aspects of ministry in a parish church cathedral. In her academic role, she teaches on the relation of religion and culture both historically and in the contemporary world. 
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For Alan J Roxburgh:
http://alanroxburgh.com/about
https://www.themissionalnetwork.com/author/alan-roxburgh/
https://journalofmissionalpractice.com/alan-roxburgh
Twitter: https://twitter.com/alanjroxburgh?lang=en
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/alan.roxburgh.127/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecommonsnetwork 
Joining God in the Great Unraveling https://www.amazon.ca/Joining-God-Great-Unraveling-Learned/dp/1725288508/ref=sr_1_
Leadership, God’s Agency and Disruptions https://www.amazon.ca/Leadership-Gods-Agency-Disruptions-Confronting/dp/1725271745/ref
Joining God, Remaking Church, Changing the World: The New Shape of the Church in Our Time https://www.amazon.ca/Joining-Remaking-Church-Changing-World/dp/0819232114/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2NHGW8KB7L0SQ&keywords=Alan+J+Roxburgh&qid=1687098960&s=books&sprefix=alan+j+roxburgh%2Cstripbooks%2C130&sr=1-3
For Jenny Sinclair:
Website: https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/from-jenny-sinclair
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-sinclair-0589783b/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/T4CG
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TogetherForTheCommonGoodUK
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/t4cg_insta/
For Alison Milbank:
https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/humanities/departments/theology-and-religious-studies/people/alison.milbank
https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2009/6-november/features/interviews/interview-alison-milbank-theologian
https://www.savetheparish.com/
The Once and Future Parish 
For the Parish: A critique of Fresh Expressions 
God's Church in the World: The Gift of Catholic Mission 
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=alison+milbank+launch+save+the+parish
https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/leading-thinkers/home-for-good
https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/news/lincoln-lecture-series


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Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Gary Klopfenstein about what it means for him to be one of God’s people in this age of unravelling. He notes the disconnect between the big picture of economies and financial markets and the experience of people and families living on the edge. Gary shares his own journey into friendships with people unlike himself with whom he’s learned to listen and walk alongside. As an investment manager, he’s learning to listen and follow Jesus in his work, seeking first the flourishing of his employees instead of prioritising profit. He’s discovered this is a route to abundance and is not just about doing business differently. It’s about doing life differently and this is leading him out of doing things in the old ways and opening up new and creative ways of changing the economy from the inside out.
Gary has been in the investment management business for over thirty years and is considered to be a pioneer in the industry. He’s the Chairman of a private asset management company in Chicago and he sits on the boards of several other companies. He’s also an author and speaker with a passion to bring people into an encounter with the presence of God and to see the kingdom of heaven advance in the marketplace to bring about cultural and social transformation.

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For Alan J Roxburgh:
http://alanroxburgh.com/about
https://www.themissionalnetwork.com/author/alan-roxburgh/
https://journalofmissionalpractice.com/alan-roxburgh
Twitter: https://twitter.com/alanjroxburgh?lang=en
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/alan.roxburgh.127/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecommonsnetwork
Joining God in the Great Unraveling https://www.amazon.ca/Joining-God-Great-Unraveling-Learned/dp/1725288508/ref=sr_1_
Leadership, God’s Agency and Disruptions https://www.amazon.ca/Leadership-Gods-Agency-Disruptions-Confronting/dp/1725271745/ref
Joining God, Remaking Church, Changing the World: The New Shape of the Church in Our Time https://www.amazon.ca/Joining-Remaking-Church-Changing-World/dp/0819232114/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2NHGW8KB7L0SQ&keywords=Alan+J+Roxburgh&qid=1687098960&s=books&sprefix=alan+j+roxburgh%2Cstripbooks%2C130&sr=1-3

For Jenny Sinclair:
Website: https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/from-jenny-sinclair
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-sinclair-0589783b/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/T4CG
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TogetherForTheCommonGoodUK
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/t4cg_insta/

For Gary Klopfenstein: 
https://q-cam.com/our_team/gary-klopfenstein/
https://pitchbook.com/profiles/person/35462-08P#overview
https://www.innovyzusa.com/about-us


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Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Harvey Kwiyani, a theologian from Malawi, now living in Liverpool and working across the UK, Europe and North America  Harvey tells the story of growing up in rural Malawi, a place evangelised by David Livingstone in 1851, where he  heard God’s call as a boy of twelve that he was to become a missionary in Europe. Through the course of their conversation, Jenny and Al learn from Harvey’s insights about the current state of Christianity in Europe and America and the challenges around mission in a context of functional atheism.  They discuss the gifts of African Christianity, for example how Ubuntu (“I am because you are”)offers a countercultural and constructive hope to both churches and economies in the West.
Harvey Kwiyani works for the Church Mission Society (CMS) in Oxford, UK, where he leads a study centre for global witness and human migration and a Masters programme in African Christianity. Harvey is also the CEO of Global Connections, a UK-based  mission network, and a director of MIssio Africanus, a think tank exploring the rise and role of the African missionary movement in world missions. Harvey has published several books and holds a Ph.D. in Missions and Leadership.

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For Alan J Roxburgh:
http://alanroxburgh.com/about
https://www.themissionalnetwork.com/author/alan-roxburgh/
https://journalofmissionalpractice.com/alan-roxburgh
Twitter: https://twitter.com/alanjroxburgh?lang=en
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/alan.roxburgh.127/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecommonsnetwork
Joining God in the Great Unraveling https://www.amazon.ca/Joining-God-Great-Unraveling-Learned/dp/1725288508/ref=sr_1_
Leadership, God’s Agency and Disruptions https://www.amazon.ca/Leadership-Gods-Agency-Disruptions-Confronting/dp/1725271745/ref
Joining God, Remaking Church, Changing the World: The New Shape of the Church in Our Time https://www.amazon.ca/Joining-Remaking-Church-Changing-World/dp/0819232114/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2NHGW8KB7L0SQ&keywords=Alan+J+Roxburgh&qid=1687098960&s=books&sprefix=alan+j+roxburgh%2Cstripbooks%2C130&sr=1-3

For Jenny Sinclair:
Website: https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/from-jenny-sinclair
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-sinclair-0589783b/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/T4CG
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TogetherForTheCommonGoodUK
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/t4cg_insta/
T4CG Substack: t4cg.substack.com

For Harvey Kwiyani:
LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/harvey-kwiyani-ph-d-039ab745/?originalSubdomain=uk
Global Connections: www.globalconnections.org.uk/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/missioafricanus?lang=en
Substack:
Books:
Decolonising Mission (2024)
Wash and Pray: African Theological Discourse on COVID-19 (2023)
Multicultural Kingdom: Ethnic Diversity, Mission and the Church (2020) 
Our Children Need Roots and Wings: Equipping and Empowering Young Diaspora Africans for Life and Mission (2019)
Mission-Shaped Church in a Multicultural World (2017)
Sent Forth: African Missionary Work in the West (2014)


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Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with the co-hosts of The Missiology Podcast, Martin Rodriguez and Greg McKinzie to discuss mission. They discuss how the churches have been affected by modernity, and how mission needs to change. Sharing the disorientation they encounter among church leaders, they explore the tension between missiological scholarship and relationships with real people. And, drawing on their conversations with missiologists and missionaries, as well as their own missional experience - in South America, China and the United States - in prisons, with the homeless, and in their own neighbourhoods - Martin and Greg share how their grounded relationships shape what they know about justice.
Martin Rodriguez is Family Life Minister at the Hollywood Church of Christ in Hollywood, and served as a missionary in China mentoring emerging leaders and planting churches. He is also an assistant professor in the Department of Practical Theology at Azusa Pacific University in Azusa, California. Martin also holds an MDiv from Fuller Theological Seminary and a degree in Religion and International Studies from Pepperdine University, California. He is also a content editor of Missio Dei: A Journal of Missional Theology and Praxis, a member of the team at missiology.com and co-host of The Missiology Podcast.
Greg McKinzie is the Missions Minister of the Stones River Church in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, an affiliate assistant professor at Fuller Theological Seminary and the executive editor of Missio Dei: A Journal of Missional Theology and Praxis. He is the lead administrator of missiology.com and co-host of The Missiology Podcast. He holds a PhD in theology from Fuller Theological Seminary and served in Peru as a partner in holistic evangelism with Team Arequipa and The Christian Urban Development Association. Greg holds an MDiv from Harding School of Theology, Tennessee, and a BA in missions from Harding University, Arizona.
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For Alan J Roxburgh:
http://alanroxburgh.com/about
https://www.themissionalnetwork.com/author/alan-roxburgh/
https://journalofmissionalpractice.com/alan-roxburgh
Twitter: https://twitter.com/alanjroxburgh?lang=en
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/alan.roxburgh.127/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecommonsnetwork
Joining God in the Great Unraveling https://www.amazon.ca/Joining-God-Great-Unraveling-Learned/dp/1725288508/ref=sr_1_
Leadership, God’s Agency and Disruptions https://www.amazon.ca/Leadership-Gods-Agency-Disruptions-Confronting/dp/1725271745/ref
Joining God, Remaking Church, Changing the World: The New Shape of the Church in Our Time https://www.amazon.ca/Joining-Remaking-Church-Changing-World/dp/0819232114/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2NHGW8KB7L0SQ&keywords=Alan+J+Roxburgh&qid=1687098960&s=books&sprefix=alan+j+roxburgh%2Cstripbooks%2C130&sr=1-3
For Jenny Sinclair:
Website: https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/from-jenny-sinclair
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-sinclair-0589783b/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/T4CG
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TogetherForTheCommonGoodUK
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/t4cg_insta/
For Martin Rodriguez:  
https://www.apu.edu/faculty/cvs/mrodriguez.pdf
https://www.linkedin.com/in/martin-rodriguez-6b7b521ba/
For Greg McKinzie:  
https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregmckinzie/details/publications/
For Martin and Greg: 
http://www.missiology.org/podcast
http://missiodeijournal.com/


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Alan Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Sally Mann about her life in community in the East End of London in the UK, where her family has lived for six generations. Sally tells the story of Bonny Downs Baptist Church where she is one of the pastoral team of five, all of whom are co-vocational. The team shares a single stipend, a model that came out of shared living – what she describes as “lived hospitality.”  Sally describes her love for her community and the transformative work Bonny Downs is doing in a place that many consider a slum. Rather than having “a five year plan”, they find that by listening to God and their neighbours, their abandoned places are being restored for the sake of the common good. Sally says her thinking shifted when she began to take seriously that Jesus is from Nazareth, a poor hillside village, and this has opened up a way of living a life of true freedom.
Dr Sally Mann is a minister at Bonny Downs Baptist Church where she is the fourth of six generations of her family to serve in their East End London community. Also an author and community activist, Sally lectures in Sociology and has a PhD in Philosophy and Theology. She is actively involved in Red Letter Christians, and is one of the original team who launched it in the UK. She has published Looking for Lydia: encounters that shape the church, reflecting on 25 years of ministry in London through the stories of encounters in Acts. 
For Alan J Roxburgh:
http://alanroxburgh.com/about
https://www.themissionalnetwork.com/author/alan-roxburgh/
https://journalofmissionalpractice.com/alan-roxburgh
Twitter: https://twitter.com/alanjroxburgh?lang=en
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/alan.roxburgh.127/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecommonsnetwork
Joining God in the Great Unraveling https://www.amazon.ca/Joining-God-Great-Unraveling-Learned/dp/1725288508/ref=sr_1_
Leadership, God’s Agency and Disruptions https://www.amazon.ca/Leadership-Gods-Agency-Disruptions-Confronting/dp/1725271745/ref
Joining God, Remaking Church, Changing the World: The New Shape of the Church in Our Time https://www.amazon.ca/Joining-Remaking-Church-Changing-World/dp/0819232114/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2NHGW8KB7L0SQ&keywords=Alan+J+Roxburgh&qid=1687098960&s=books&sprefix=alan+j+roxburgh%2Cstripbooks%2C130&sr=1-3
For Jenny Sinclair:
Website: https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/from-jenny-sinclair
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-sinclair-0589783b/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/T4CG
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TogetherForTheCommonGoodUK
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/t4cg_insta/
For Sally Mann:
Bonny Downs Baptist Church:
https://www.bonnydownschurch.org/
Bonny Downs Community Association:
https://bonnydowns.org/
Staying Put - an essay for Together for the Common Good https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/leading-thinkers/staying-put
Red Letter Christians UK: https://redletterchristians.org.uk/author/dr-sally-mann/
Looking for Lydia: Encounters that shape the Church https://www.amazon.co.uk/Looking-Lydia-Encounters-shape-Church/dp/1790341183/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Gj8uvv2HoolUYiuTfCrohw.WEzPBvVvt5tpcLYWrJcJbF6pMHH3TTgwcjNHfYQioTo&qid=1712777949&sr=8-1


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