Zero Gravity, Fish Sticks, and the Making of a Creative Life The Applied Empathy Podcast

In this episode, Michael grabs time with the lead singer of OK Go (who is also the magical brain behind their insanely cool music videos). Together they cover a wide variety of topics surrounding the creative process. Damian elaborates on his own struggle to be creative inside of set parameters (which ultimately led to his departure from a career in graphic design), contrasted against the boundless energy he found when pouring himself into creative pursuits of his own making. The episode is full of incredible anecdotes ranging from a brief history of his family's relationship with fish sticks, to what it was like to create art inside of a zero gravity airplane, courtesy of a Russian airline.