After the Encore Joe Shaw

Will & Josiah, the Holland Brothers were part of the 'Tooth & Nail' experience back in the early-to-mid 00's.

First, releasing their debut album under the name 'Holland' and then shifting to 'The Lonely Hearts' because of label recommendation.

In another installment of the 'Truth, Soul, Rock & Roll' series of episodes, we're taking a look into another former 'Christian rock band' of the time.

We get into a discussion about T&N's approach as a label, how a young adult processes new life experiences amidst a significant amount of grief, and how do you define success when you've 'made it' but are then quickly discarded from those who helped you 'make it'.

You're definitely going to enjoy this fantastic episode AND as a side-note, the album 'Photographs & Tidalwaves' was one of my favorite albums throughout all of high school and was consistently in my rotation. After listening to this episode of the podcast be sure to check out the album!

Enjoy this brief description of Holland from their Tooth & Nail bio back in the day:


Change appears to be a reoccurring theme in the lives of Holland members as of late. Between a new name, record label, and relocation to Nashville, among some personal tragedy (“Losing Jim”, “Bring Back July”), Will (vocals, guitar), Josiah (bass), and Yogi (drums) have had plenty to write about. But it’s this change that makes the best rock songs, and the best rock songs that make the change a little easier to deal with. Holland maximizes these difficulties as art, and turns them into infectiously hooky, four-on-the-floor rock anthems of surprising maturity and substance. Citing influences such as Superdrag, Foo Fighters, and primarily, the Beatles, Holland’s sound and message make perfect sense upon first listen. “Its just that there's such a hungry world out there, starving for any answer. I feel like we've been equipped to tell them something good; that life doesn’t really have to be so hard” Songs like “The Whole World”, featuring an immediately memorable chorus, make clear that Holland intend to drive that positivism home with a vengeance. And perhaps a subliminal message or two. Will Holland’s lyricism is well developed and thoughtful, but his melodies, for sure, are what will cause the widespread epidemic of whistling. Should Holland have their way, it’ll be one of the non-exclusive variety. “The bottom line for us is that we don’t want to be stereotyped and called one thing or another...we just want to make good music, be a good band, and make people happy.” The love isn’t just for the fans either: “[Will’s] the heartbeat of Holland, and personally, I think he’s a genius,” says brother Josiah.


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David Tosti, lead singer of Pax-217, stops by the podcast to detail his unique perspective on both music as a whole and the Christian Music Scene (including a very funny story filming the cult classic 'Extreme Days' starring Dante Basco).

David details how Pax-217 got their start, and the unique twists and turns life has taken him on since he started the band back when he was 16!

What do you do when you want to make music which feels true to you, but you're constantly reminded you're part of a "Christian" label? Indeed, what WOULD Jesus do?

In yet another installment of After the Encore's: "Truth, Soul, Rock & Roll" we interview different lead singers to find out how they approached the Christian music culture and where they've gone since that time.

Tune in to find out how they answer the questions essential to the essence of the podcast:

1. What does music mean to you?

2. How do you quantify success?

3. And what happens after the music fades?

After the Encore is a long-form, career retrospective podcast that takes you behind the music of some of your favorite artists. After the Encore is also a "2020 Music Podcast of the Year" award nominee over at PodcastAwards.com

The official Spotify playlist for Volume 4 can be found here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/17EC25nl42RFDRox1ry9MB?si=T4gDXet4SBWzAfEpjmk_bg

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Robert Burke Warren (or RBW) is quite possibly, one of the most interesting men I've ever had the pleasure of speaking to on this podcast. Between his exploits playing in RuPaul's (yes, THE RuPaul) band when RBW was just 18 years old to his latest book "Cash on Cash" about the man in black, Johnny Cash he has seen and experienced a lot!

To quote RBW "Music is the highest form of communication" and we utilize this podcast to communicate about an incredible story from an incredible storyteller.

Tune in to find out how RBW answers the questions essential to the essence of the podcast:

1. What does music mean to you?

2. How do you quantify success?

3. And what happens after the music fades?

After the Encore is a long-form, career retrospective podcast that takes you behind the music of some of your favorite artists. After the Encore is also a "2020 Music Podcast of the Year" award nominee over at PodcastAwards.com

'After the Encore' is powered by Roberts Media Group. For more programming and advertisement opportunities, please visit www.robertsmediagroup.co



About Robert Burke Warren

I arrive in the year of Rubber Soul, Highway 61 Revisited, and My Generation: 1965. My Journalism major mom and guitar-playing Marine dad divorce before I turn two. Mom retains custody of my elder brother, Britt, and me. We come of age in Atlanta, in the waning days of the hippie dream and the onset of disco; arts festivals, backwoods, communes, the golden age of Top 40 radio, and a house stocked with books and LPs.

My father dies driving drunk a couple weeks after my seventh birthday. Mom returns to school to study medicine. Maternal grandmother, Gammie, steps in to help raise my brother and me. Her husband, my grandfather, Sam F. Lucchese, is the retired entertainment editor of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution and a stringer for Variety. He still taps furiously on a manual typewriter in the basement of their home, the percussive clickety-clack-BING rising from below while we watch All in the Family and the Carol Burnett Show. My writing gene comes from the Lucchese line.

I pen stories and poems and co-edit a newspaper for teens, but in those early days, Dad’s musician genes hold sway, and I focus most of my energy on music. I pick up a bass at fourteen and devote myself to it. Within a couple years, I start a band with my longtime best friend, guitarist Todd Butler. Our singer is superstar-in-exile RuPaul. We call ourselves Wee Wee Pole. We write and perform Prince-inspired material. From Gammie’s kitchen, I book us a tour to Manhattan. I am eighteen.

About Cash on Cash

As an interviewee, Cash was an exemplary communicator to an astonishingly broad spectrum of people: always open and articulate, part friend, part spiritual authority, part flawed hero. Throughout a decades-long career, as Cash took risks, embracing new technologies, formats, and attitudes, he cleaved to a simple, core message of unvarnished truth.




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The late 90's - early 00's were full of pop music groups such as *NSYNC. But what happens when you are steeped in the Christian Faith but love the sweet hooks of pop music? Enter, Plus One. Plus One was designed to be the Christian Music industry's answer to *NSYNC. You could get your pop fix and still worship God win-win. Plus One enjoyed crossover success in the pop charts for several years before deciding to call it quits.

In this latest installment of the Dirty Pop Volume we explore the overall pop genre during the late 90's to early 00's. We will chart an entire genre's rise and fall through the lens of a few unique perspectives

In this specific episode we continue our examination of the band Plus One by talking to Nathan Walters about his musical roots, his experience with Plus One (including a short-lived reboot in 2014!), and his current musical production work.

After the Encore is a long-form, career retrospective podcast that takes you behind the music of some of your favorite artists. After the Encore is also a "2020 Music Podcast of the Year" award nominee over at PodcastAwards.com

If you enjoy the music be sure to go follow the official Spotify playlist for Volume 3: Dirty Pop here - https://spoti.fi/30dAw8M

'After the Encore' is powered by Roberts Media Group. For more programming and advertisement opportunities, please visit www.robertsmediagroup.co




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Travis has been playing music for about 30 years. Piano lessons started at 6 until the instrument became uncool at the age of 11. Then it was classical guitar, which wasn’t loud enough. Then it was bass, which was fun for a while, but proved to be difficult to use as a writing instrument. Finally, Travis found his way to the electric guitar (keys have been given a second chance) and the creation of hundreds of songs since the mid 90’s.

He is probably most well known for his time as lead singer, guitarist, and songwriter of the Boston-based band, Piebald. Started in 1994, PIebald released 5 albums, and toured constantly until the “last shows” in 2008.  - http://www.masqueradeatlanta.com/attraction/travis-shettel-piebald/

I was stoked to get the opportunity to interview Travis for this podcast. The Alt music scene in the mid-00's really shaped my perspective of my youth and my worldview overall. Several of these songs are still anthems for me after all these years. Travis and I dig into all that and more!

In After the Encore Volume 7: The Alternative Is... We explore the world of music through the lens of the artists who helped shape a musical revolution for so many. What lessons still resonate today, and what has changed in the near twenty years since then? 

Tune in to find out how these artists answer the questions essential to the essence of the podcast:

1. What does music mean to you?

2. How do you quantify success?

3. And what happens after the music fades?

Be sure to catch Piebald's upcoming tour dates:

12/14 - Hamden, CT
12/15 - Lancaster, PA
12/16 - Northampton, MA
12/17 - Portsmouth, NH
12/19 - Ardmore, PA
12/20 - Brooklyn, NY
12/21 - Cambridge, MA

For more details and to purchase tickets be sure to go to: Piebald.com

After the Encore is a long-form, career retrospective podcast that takes you behind the music of some of your favorite artists. After the Encore is also a "2020 Music Podcast of the Year" award nominee over at PodcastAwards.com

The official Spotify playlist for Volume 7 can be found here:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5eLT9a8UEUKPmLkIMcPqBA?si=266b2e103cb54f69

'After the Encore' is powered by Roberts Media Group. For more programming and advertisement opportunities, please visit www.robertsmediagroup.co


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Texas-born Garrett Owen had a musical awakening at age 14 that manifested as an intense desire to learn guitar and an insatiable love for all things heavy metal. Eventually, he began exploring other genres, diligently saving his weekly allowance to afford mail-order CDs to satisfy his typical childhood curiosity. But, Owen’s childhood was anything but typical.

Instead of Little League and sleepovers, Owen’s earliest memories involve frequent trips across the Serengeti and backyard wildlife most of us only experience at our local zoos. The son of church-building missionaries, he grew up in Tanzania and Kenya, riding on the luggage rack of the family’s Nissan Patrol, with vast clear skies above him and gazelles running beside. After leaving Africa, the family completed a stint in Ecuador before Owen’s parents moved the family back to Texas. Life as he knew it became a difficult endeavor; rimmed with the sharp edges of reality in an unfamiliar place, his attempts to settle into a culture he didn’t understand resulted in distress and a suicide attempt - a far cry from the idyllic landscape of his upbringing. - https://garrett-owen.com/band

I have always enjoyed the artistic nature of Garrett's music and was thrilled to get the opportunity to discuss it with him on this episode. 

While this episode is not part of a larger Volume we are releasing it under the moniker of "B-Sides" since it is a bonus track just for you.

Tune in to find out how Garrett Owen answers the questions essential to the essence of the podcast:

1. What does music mean to you?

2. How do you quantify success?

3. And what happens after the music fades?

After the Encore is a long-form, career retrospective podcast that takes you behind the music of some of your favorite artists. After the Encore is also a "2020 Music Podcast of the Year" award nominee over at PodcastAwards.com

'After the Encore' is powered by Roberts Media Group. For more programming and advertisement opportunities, please visit www.robertsmediagroup.co


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