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Today’s episode of Dance Dad is taking us to church! Reverend Dawn Lynn Check, a Dance Moms “Pre-OG OG,” joins host John Corella to talk about Jesus, the Bible, and the importance of reading between the lines. 
 
Many people misinterpret Jesus as “kumbaya,” explains Dawn (as she prefers to be called), forgetting that he was a human with a variety of emotions, including anger in the face of injustice. Others practice “proof texting” taking snippets of the Word and interpreting it to suit our own ends. 
 
Updates and changes made to different versions of the Bible can also alter the Word’s message, to disastrous ends. The two discuss the inclusion of the word “homosexual,” in the text—a change which was made only in 1946—and the implications of that change to generations of people. They also discuss the importance of standing up for what’s right even when we’re scared or facing persecution. 
 
Dawn shares what she loves most about Jesus, what led her to ministry, and early memories of reading Bible stories with her grandmother. Stay until the end for a surprise special guest and to join Dawn in loving prayer. 
 
Quotes
“Sometimes we picture Jesus as this kumbaya character—kind, gentle Jesus. The reality is Jesus had a lot of emotions. But we have softened Jesus to the point that he doesn’t have power, and power doesn’t mean beating people up, or stomping on them or lording it over them—pun intended, maybe.” (5:45 | Dawn Lynn Check)
“I think the word of God should be as accessible as it can be, however, to your point, you should always struggle with the Word. If you’re not struggling, you’re not doing it right.” (11:21 | Dawn Lynn Check)
“As a disciple of Christ, throwing the tables, it’s my job as a disciple to talk to people and say, ‘Those tables need to be overturned.’ And by sitting here talking about it with you, I’m kind of saying, ‘This isn’t right.’ [Donald Trump] is profiting off of those bibles for his criminal and political campaign. That’s not right.” (14:56 | Dawn Lynn Check)
“I have never felt such love, such completeness as listening to the word of God on my grandmother’s lap.” (16:29 | Dawn Lynn Check)
“We are so uncomfortable with sexuality and sex, and there is so much sex in the Bible. You know, we’re banning books. Have we banned the Bible?” (30:40 | Dawn Lynn Check)
“I don’t think people realize that I was the funny one. If you talk to any of them, I was the one that made them laugh.” (35:10 | Dawn Lynn Check)
“I love that Jesus allows himself to be weak, and allows us to participate in our own redemption.” (38:02 | Dawn Lynn Check)
“How do we stand up for what’s right, what’s good when we feel scared God isn’t going to protect us and we’re going to be put up on that cross? Ruth Bader Ginsburg said, ‘Do it, even if you’re shaking.’” (38:27 | Dawn Lynn Check)
 
Links
 
Connect with Reagan Check: 
www.instagram.com/Regancheck
 
1946 the Movie:
https://www.1946themovie.com/

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“It’s about making the audience feel something. What joy are we bringing to the world?” Sarah Christine Smith brought joy to a generation with her dancing, singing and acting. Part of the New Millennium pop craze, she was there for Britney Spears’ rise to fame, performing as a backup dancer on Britney’s early tour and in the iconic video for…Baby One More Time. Sarah later scored her own hits as a member of the girl group sensation Nobody’s Angel, and while guest starring with the group on the beloved television series Boy Meets World, she fell in love with acting. As today’s guest on this episode of Dance Dad, she and host John Corella discuss it all—her deep passion for teaching, raising her family in small-town Canada, and what she would tell her younger self if she could do it all over again.
 
At the heart of both dancing and acting is storytelling, which requires a great deal of curiosity. Sarah discusses the introspection and emotional unpacking required to get inside character, as well as the joy she takes in helping each of her dance students find and build upon the unique roles they each have to play. She reveals the best advice she ever got from her own dance teacher, the jealousy she experienced from other dancers, and why pop stardom wasn’t all it was cracked up to be.
 
Learning about oneself is a lifelong journey, and to help others cultivate their own self-knowledge Sarah has created MyDanceJournal to help dancers—and everyone else—create their reality by turning thoughts into action. Join the conversation to hear her discuss her latest projects, the power of intuition, and the importance of a strong community.
 
Quotes
“I think with dance, we’re emulating the choreographer, we’re being molded into something, whereas, I think—not always, that’s such a generalization—but I think with acting, you’re a single person who needs to grab onto a role in your own unique way.” (14:33 | Sarah Christine Smith) 
“When it feels good, it feels good. You get into that flow and you kind of get that performance high and almost ask yourself when it’s done, ‘What the hell just happened?’ because you were so in the moment. And that’s when I fell in love with acting.” (18:43 | Sarah Christine Smith) 
“I still question who I am and what I’m all about and what my values are. And I hope that I’m always questioning that; I hope I never am content with who I am.” (22:02 | Sarah Christine Smith)
“When you’re on set, be curious. When you’re in the studio, be curious. I think if I had to go back in time, I would tell myself to be more curious when I was younger.” (32:18 | Sarah Christine Smith) 
“I took a hiatus when I had my kids and when I started auditioning again, I thought, ‘Oh my God, I feel like I have PTSD.’ All of a sudden, these doubts about myself started creeping in after years, they hadn’t shown up. A sense of depression when I didn’t get a job started setting in that I hadn’t experienced in years.” (37:40 | Sarah Christine Smith)
“I love it! I love building confidence in young dancers, knowing what their strengths are and building off of that. Giving them a role, giving them a purpose.” (57:39 | Sarah Christine Smith)
“Take the pressure off of ourselves and say, ‘Why are we doing this? What joy are we bringing to the world? What joy are we bringing to our audience?’” (1:21:23 | Sarah Christine Smith)
 
Links
Connect with Sarah Christine Smith:https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0809882/
https://www.instagram.com/sarah_christine_smith/?hl=en
https://mydance.ca/

Dance Dad with John Corella on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dancedadwithjohncorella/
John on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/john_corella/

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“There are still ways to have these children feel safe and in control while under pressure, as long as you teach them to go inward,” says Lisa Mitzel, mental health coach and author of “Focused and Inspired: Keeping Our Athletes Safe in a Win-at-All-Costs World.” Lisa returns to Dance Dad for Part Two of her discussion with host John Corella. She explains how parents and coaches can best support their children, starting from the car ride on the way to the competition through to the end of the awards ceremony, so that ultimately, they can learn how to support themselves. Kids are never too young to learn their own minds and to speak them, Lisa says, and providing kids with options—including the option to back out—is key to helping them build their own strategy of self-care and self-reliance. 
 
Coaches and parents need to be mindful of the values they are instilling in their dancers and gymnasts about winning, about their role as competitor, and be mindful about projecting onto, and seeking validation from, young performers. Lisa addresses the best way to handle bullying from rivals, teammates and even adults, the importance of nominating a “culture coach,” and how to handle the often dirty politics of winning and losing. 
 
As kindly as we treat ourselves so must we treat our rivals, acknowledging our shared humanity even as we seek to best them. Lisa and John recall American gymnasts Kerri Strug and Simone Biles, who each made very different decisions ahead of their performances at their respective Olympic Games, and what we can learn from both stories muting outside voices and listening to our own. 
 
Quotes
“What is the strategy here? Is it just to obey and do what everybody tells her to do, or is it to say ‘Hold on, let me think about this?’” (5:47 | Lisa Mitzel) 
“Believe in these kids, in your kid, that they’re going to make a good choice.” (8:45 | John Corella)
“They also might be feeling, a lot of times, judged that if their kid doesn’t do well, if they’re not presenting themselves in the best light, that all of a sudden people see their flaws, their mistakes, their faults, then they’re going to be judged. That’s the parent needing to work on themselves.” (19:01 | Lisa Mitzel)
“Anything that you do, you want to be CEO of your own brain, you want to be captain of your own ship, you want to be the leader of yourself. And do you believe an 8-year-old girl can do that? I believe she can definitely learn. I think that’s what we tend to do, we dismiss the 6, 7, 8 and 9-year-olds, we say, ‘Oh, they’re young. They’re so little, they don’t understand.’ Kids are very intelligent.” (28:06 | Lisa Mitzel) 
“How are we raising and developing our kids? Is it that you are only valuable in this world if you get first place? Is that your value in this world?” (32:24 | Lisa Mitzel)
“As coaches and teachers we want to be thanked, we want someone to appreciate our effort, we want someone to appreciate that we’re putting out time and energy. So, the question is, why are we relying on a child to make us feel good?” (35:56 | Lisa Mitzel)
 
Links
Connect with Lisa Mitzel:
https://www.lisamitzel.com/focused-books/
https://www.instagram.com/mitzel_coach/

Dance Dad with John Corella on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/dancedadwithjohncorella/
John on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/john_corella/

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“Emotions mean that you’re human. It’s very normal,” says Lisa Mitzel, mental health coach and author of “Focused and Inspired: Keeping Our Athletes Safe in a Win-at-All-Costs World.” 
 
As a six-time NCAA Gymnastics champion, Lisa knows that competitive dancers and athletes have all sorts of emotions ahead of competition, yet, only some of them are acknowledged or encouraged by their coaches and parents. Lisa describes techniques to foster awareness and mindfulness in young performers, beginning long before the competition even starts. As host John Corella says, good and bad emotions aren’t mutually exclusive. 
 
As tempting as it is for coaches and parents to make all the decisions for the dancer, and to want to avoid watching them fail, the only way to raise self-confident children who will lead themselves is to give them options and choices, no matter how small. John tells a story of a young dancer who nearly had a breakdown before a going on the stage, the game-changing question he asked her, and what her decision rendered in both the short term and the long term. 
 
Though things are slowly changing, dancers have historically not been encouraged to use their voices. As competitions become increasingly out of control, the pressure on performers to be perfectionistic only increases, as does the shame which surrounds failure. Dancers and gymnasts are made to feel as performers and competitors first, and humans second. 
 
On this episode of Dance Dads, the first of a two-part discussion with Lisa, she shares some of the powerful visualization, recalling and dance competition tricks to practice ahead of competition. Hear her opinion on practicing the day before a competition and the surprising way to approach competitors. 
 
Quotes
“We live through our children, don’t we? Through our dancers, through our gymnasts.” (5:38 | Lisa Mitzel)
“Sometimes there are so many rules, that kids feel like they have no decisions. That’s a helpless feeling. That’s a feeling that the authority has all the power.” (8:35 | Lisa Mitzel)  
“What is common, or let’s say more common, is a parent or a dance teacher or a coach, gives [the child] the choice but when [the child] choose[s], ’No, I don’t want to,’ [the parent or coach says] ‘Why? You can do it. You can do it,’ and inadvertently they dismiss how the child is feeling. And it happens regularly. Daily.”  (19:05 | Lisa Mitzel)
“Can we keep the nerves as well as the part that says ‘You can do it’ at the same time? They’re not on separate islands. You can have the fear and the ‘You can do it.’ And also, maybe that fear needs more attention than the ‘You can do it’ in that moment. And you show the kid that they’re more important than their dancing, than their gymnastics, than their sport.” (19:54 | John Corella) 
“We’re trying to teach them how to succeed and it’s uncomfortable to watch them fail; it’s uncomfortable to let them make a decision that maybe isn’t going to work out in their benefit at that moment. But that’s the short term.” (23:32 | Lisa Mitzel)

Links
Connect with Lisa Mitzel:
https://www.lisamitzel.com/focused-books/
https://www.instagram.com/mitzel_coach/

Dance Dad with John Corella on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dancedadwithjohncorella/
John on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/john_corella/

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“It just kind of happened,” says John Corella about creating the Dance Dad podcast, “Like anything I’ve created that I love, I thought, ‘This will be fun’.” Today, John turns the tables and lets guest host Eva from On the Spot Interviews ask the questions about his plans for the show and his mission–or, as he poses it to all of his guests–his ‘why.’ He talks about creating a safe space of healing for the LGBTQ community where they can share their stories from inside of the dance world, a place for meaningful conversations where everyone can be authentic–maybe even a little bit messy.
 
As he always does, John arrived here by following his spirit, his faith in God and his love of Jesus, all of which help him to navigate what can be a challenging landscape, one where everyone can make their voices heard–including some nasty people in the comments section. He grappled with self-doubt while in the early stages of getting the podcast off the ground, but a very synchronistic sign from the universe let him know he was right to take the leap.
 
John has the unique ability to draw out authentic moments from guests that even superfans of Dance Moms and the dance world would be surprised by. John reveals the superstar whom he performed with on a famous talent show - and whom he’d love to have on the show to talk to! Which celebrity friendship of John did Eva discover that made her fall off her chair, and who is John’s number one dream celebrity guest (hint: it’s not a dancer).
 
John is not a dancer either, as he explains on this episode, one of many misconceptions about the dance world that he aims to dispel on future episodes of Dance Dad. After all, this podcast belongs to the listeners–and those who dare to be bold. 
 
Quotes
“I really want this podcast to be authentic–some people say messy—but authentic. That happens in our lives, even though we act like ‘Oh, yeah, I look like this and I walk into school’ or ‘I look like this, and I go into work,’ we all have little hiccups and messes before we step onto the mic.” (4:26 | John)
“I follow my spirit, my holy spirit, and it just kind of happened. It’s similar to ‘Dance Moms’ or anything similar that I’ve created that I love. I can’t even give you a step-by-step. I just thought of it and then thought, ‘Oh, that’ll be fun.” (7:49 | John) 
“That’s another thing, with just starting with this, in the past month of it being public, I wasn’t used to how mean people can be. I forgot about that. I got a lot of nice things, but then I wasn’t used to people being mean and saying hurtful things. But again, that’s been healing for me. I’ve taken it as an opportunity to focus on my ‘why’.” (17:26 | John) 
“We all have a little bit of Dance Mom/Dance Dad in us, an ego at times. So, it’s not like I’m expecting people to walk on water here, it’s not that at all. It was just kind of funny, my ego came up, big time, when they told me how well I was doing.” (20:44 | John)
“What got me there was just being present, focusing on having these great conversations with people I love. It reminds me of ‘The Kingdom of Heaven.’ Don’t worry about tomorrow, focus on the Kingdom of Heaven and everything else will be added unto you.’ And if it’s not, it’s OK, you’re already in Heaven, meaning feeling good.” (21:33 | John) 

Links
Dance Dad with John Corella on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dancedadwithjohncorella/
John on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/john_corella/

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“I just met the second coming of Michael Jackson,” says Frank Gatson, famed choreographer and Dance Dad to the stars, of meeting Beyonce for the first time in 1997 when she was just 15 years old. And Frank would know—his first major job was working with MJ on the 30-day shoot for Jackson’s iconic “Smooth Criminal” video. Since then, he’s worked with acts such as En Vogue, Usher, Toni Braxton, Brandy, Tyrese, Rihanna, not to mention a young John Corella. For his work, he remains the most nominated choreographer in the history of MTV.
 
He began his career dancing in the long-running “Up With People” tour, staying with local families in each country in which they performed. Navigating language and cultural barriers helped him to hone his people skills as well as a keen intuition which has allowed him to share—and elevate—his artists’ visions on an almost psychic level. 
 
With each performance, Frank insists, dancers are making history. After all, dancing and music can bring people together like nothing else. This requires that he be unabashedly honest with his artists, even when no one else will be. That honesty has gotten him in trouble, but superstars with the same drive and ambition know he just wants to get it right. And when it’s right, he says, it’s magical.
 
With the same honesty, he critiques the current state of dance, what this generation is lacking and what needs to change. He reflects on his memories of a segregated American South, racism and homophobia in the dance industry. 
 
With a long and illustrious career, which shows no sign of slowing down any time soon, Frank’s passion for and fascination with dance remains as fierce as ever. He has big plans—hear the musical he wants to resurrect, what American dancers can learn from K-Pop groups, and the five current pop stars he would like to form into a supergroup. When we share our light, he says, we sparkle brighter. 
 
Quotes
“Some people might think my gift is to dance or to do what I’ve done all my life, but I think my gift is to see.” (5:52 | Frank Gatson)
“I think musicians, dancers and singers can change the world. It’s the one thing that all people love.” (10:10 | Frank Gatson) 
“You can feel racism, you can feel it when you walk into a room. Especially with my keen people skills. Sometimes, I’ll go to a hotel and the elevator door will open. If I see a woman grab her purse, I don’t get on the elevator. I don’t want to give her that.” (22:20 | Frank Gatson) 
“It was like the little girl came out. Just imagine, I met Beyonce in ‘97. She was 15 years old, and when she shot up from the air in the Soldier’s Field stadium, and said, ‘Is that Frank?!’ I could immediately hear her like a little girl, and I looked up, and I started cheesing like a little clown. I was just so impressed that she saw me in the midst of all those people down there.” (26:21 | Frank Gatson)
“Beyonce has told me, ‘Frank, your passion is going to get you in trouble.’ And it does. A lot of people don’t hire me because they think I’m trouble. I’m not trouble, I know I’m not trouble. I just want the greatest. I want history to be made. They just don’t get me. Everybody who’s worked with me gets me. If they’ve heard about me, they don’t get me.” (27:26 | Frank Gatson) 
“I have a saying: ‘Share the light; sparkle brighter.” (41:55 | Frank Gatson)
“Life is too special to let someone else predict what you need to say. You need to be gracious, you need to be nice, but be honest about this thing called ‘show business.’ That’s why there’s so much mediocrity? What has blown your mind lately about show business? Think about it like that. It’s because people are not really in it like they should be in it. They’re sugar coating it.” (48:48 | Frank Gatson)
“The reason that I was asked to work with Destiny’s Child was because they saw my work with En Vogue. And Beyonce, I equipp