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Dave Gerhardt (Founder of Exit Five, former CMO) and guests help you grow your career in B2B marketing. Episodes include conversations with CMOs, marketing leaders, and subject matter experts across all aspects of modern B2B marketing: planning, strategy, operations, ABM, demand gen., product marketing, brand, content, social media, and more. Join 3,500+ members in our private community at exitfive.com.

Exit Five: B2B Marketing with Dave Gerhardt Exit Five

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Dave Gerhardt (Founder of Exit Five, former CMO) and guests help you grow your career in B2B marketing. Episodes include conversations with CMOs, marketing leaders, and subject matter experts across all aspects of modern B2B marketing: planning, strategy, operations, ABM, demand gen., product marketing, brand, content, social media, and more. Join 3,500+ members in our private community at exitfive.com.

    #146: Strategy | Community Building with Greg Isenberg

    #146: Strategy | Community Building with Greg Isenberg

    Dave is joined by Greg Isenberg. Greg is the CEO & Co-Founder of Late Checkout. Greg has started and sold 3 companies in the community space and has now invested in 50+ community-based businesses.
    They discuss
    Why you need to build an engaged community before a paid membershipThe importance of niching down The difference between audience and communityThe tribe frameworkPersonal brand and community performanceTimestamps
    (00:00) - - Intro

    (04:50) - - Building a Community on Patreon

    (08:21) - - The Power of Niche Communities

    (11:24) - - From Facebook Group to Profitable Membership

    (14:46) - - The Impact of Exclusive Communities on Social Media

    (18:14) - - The Illusion of Social Media Engagement

    (25:45) - - Building a Personal Brand for Business

    (28:56) - - Nurturing a Successful Community Within a Company

    (29:44) - - Community Monetization: Pricing and Value in B2B Memberships

    (33:24) - - The Dangers of Free Services

    (38:50) - - Transformation of Twitter

    (42:42) - - Navigating Social Media Engagement

    (43:59) - - Exploring New Frameworks and Community Engagement

    Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership
    ***
    Today’s episode is brought to you by PharosIQ. 

    In 2024, you face tougher pipeline challenges than ever: reduced budgets, tighter resources, and fewer active buyers. 

    Yet your growth goals remain unchanged. 
     
    PharosIQ leverages down-funnel intent signals along with targeted demand solutions to help you build your pipeline efficiently. 

    They help B2B marketing leaders reach their ideal buyers and generate leads that actually convert for businesses of all sizes. 
     
    Generating leads is easy; generating leads that convert is what separates PharosIQ from the competition. 

    Check them out at PharosIQ.com/exitfive; book a meeting with their team …PLUS, their team is giving away memberships to Exit Five so go check out their website that’s P-H-A-R-O-S-I-Q dot com slash exitfive one word right now. 
    ***
    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.
    They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

    • 46 min
    #145: Content | What It Means to Be a Media Company, Building an Audience, and Community with Anthony Kennada

    #145: Content | What It Means to Be a Media Company, Building an Audience, and Community with Anthony Kennada

    Anthony Kennada is is co-founder & CEO of AudiencePlus, a company building software, content, and community to help businesses become media companies. Prior to founding AudiencePlus, Anthony served as the CMO of Hopin, Front, and Gainsight.
    In this episode, they discuss
    What it means to be a media companyBuilding an audience from scratchWhy building community is important in B2B marketingTimestamps
    (00:00) - - Introduction and context from Anthony Kennada.

    (06:12) - - Definition and evolution of becoming a media company.

    (11:12) - - The importance of building an audience and brand-oriented marketing.

    (16:12) - - Discussion on content production and budget constraints.

    (21:12) - - Community building and its significance in B2B marketing.

    (28:53) - - The relationship between audience and community in marketing strategies.

    (33:53) - - Efficient growth strategies and the role of organic growth.

    (38:53) - - Building an audience from scratch and effective distribution strategies.

    (43:53) - - Overcoming challenges in the current economic climate.

    (48:53) - - Reflection on past marketing mistakes and learning from them.

    (53:53) - - Discussion on category creation and its impact.

    Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership
    ***
    Today’s episode is brought to you by PharosIQ. 

    In 2024, you face tougher pipeline challenges than ever: reduced budgets, tighter resources, and fewer active buyers. 

    Yet your growth goals remain unchanged. 
     
    PharosIQ leverages down-funnel intent signals along with targeted demand solutions to help you build your pipeline efficiently. 

    They help B2B marketing leaders reach their ideal buyers and generate leads that actually convert for businesses of all sizes. 
     
    Generating leads is easy; generating leads that convert is what separates PharosIQ from the competition. 

    Check them out at PharosIQ.com/exitfive; book a meeting with their team …PLUS, their team is giving away memberships to Exit Five so go check out their website that’s P-H-A-R-O-S-I-Q dot com slash exitfive one word right now. 
    ***
    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.
    They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

    • 51 min
    #144: Strategy | Measuring The Effectiveness of Marketing and Predicting Revenue with Pranav Piyush

    #144: Strategy | Measuring The Effectiveness of Marketing and Predicting Revenue with Pranav Piyush

    Dave is joined by Pranav Piyush, CEO and Co-Founder of Paramark. With 15 years of growth and marketing experience at companies like PayPal, Dropbox, Adobe, and BILL, Pranav is convinced that CMOs deserve better measurement solutions. That’s why he started Paramark, a tool to help Marketing leaders become more confident about how to invest their budget for maximum returns across all types of marketing—brand and performance, online and offline, paid and owned.
    They discuss things like
    Why marketing attribution is hardThe essential elements of predicting marketing resultsWhich leading indicators to follow and how to tie them to revenueCorrelation between reach metrics (like community members and subscriptions) and output metricsHow to use and measure LinkedIn in B2B Timestamps
    (00:00) - - Intro to Pranav and Paramark

    (04:40) - - Identifying Market Needs through Research

    (09:46) - - Broken Measurement in Marketing

    (14:42) - - Importance of Email Audience Engagement

    (18:20) - - Audience Tracking

    (19:04) - - Technology's role in analyzing marketing metrics

    (27:19) - - Experimentation and Failure

    (28:43) - - Marrying Ideas and Measurement in Marketing

    (33:30) - - Connections for Startup Growth

    (36:32) - - Executing Ideas in Marketing Leadership

    (43:22) - - Focusing on Profitability and Product

    Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership
    ***
    Today’s episode is brought to you by PharosIQ. 

    In 2024, you face tougher pipeline challenges than ever: reduced budgets, tighter resources, and fewer active buyers. 

    Yet your growth goals remain unchanged. 
     
    PharosIQ leverages down-funnel intent signals along with targeted demand solutions to help you build your pipeline efficiently. 

    They help B2B marketing leaders reach their ideal buyers and generate leads that actually convert for businesses of all sizes. 
     
    Generating leads is easy; generating leads that convert is what separates PharosIQ from the competition. 

    Check them out at PharosIQ.com/exitfive; book a meeting with their team …PLUS, their team is giving away memberships to Exit Five so go check out their website that’s P-H-A-R-O-S-I-Q dot com slash exitfive one word right now. 
    ***
    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.
    They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

    • 47 min
    #143: Inside Exit Five | How to Get More Reviews, Structuring a Marketing Team and Our In-Person Event

    #143: Inside Exit Five | How to Get More Reviews, Structuring a Marketing Team and Our In-Person Event

    Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) share this week's most popular topics, lessons, and learnings across the community. They cover
    Selling out our in-person event ticketsStrategies for getting more online reviewsHow to think through structuring your marketing teamLive chat on websitesPS. We’d love to get your questions and feature you on this podcast. Have a hot topic, a burning question, or just want to say hi? Send us a voicenote at hi@exitfive.com, and we will feature you on the show. Emails are fine too, but a voice note might get you on the pod :)
    Timestamps
    (00:00) - Intro and in-person event craziness

    (06:14) - Review Management Strategies

    (09:41) - Integrating Reviews into Marketing

    (12:01) - Team Composition and Hiring Strategies

    (19:45) - Leadership and Feedback Dynamics

    (23:09) - Balancing Depth and Oversight

    (24:39) - Chatbots and AI in Customer Interaction

    (28:52) - Evaluating Marketing Tools and Strategies

    (31:37) - Future Opportunities and Reflections

    Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership
    ***
    Today’s episode is brought to you by PharosIQ. 

    In 2024, you face tougher pipeline challenges than ever: reduced budgets, tighter resources, and fewer active buyers. 

    Yet your growth goals remain unchanged. 
     
    PharosIQ leverages down-funnel intent signals along with targeted demand solutions to help you build your pipeline efficiently. 

    They help B2B marketing leaders reach their ideal buyers and generate leads that actually convert for businesses of all sizes. 
     
    Generating leads is easy; generating leads that convert is what separates PharosIQ from the competition. 

    Check them out at PharosIQ.com/exitfive; book a meeting with their team …PLUS, their team is giving away memberships to Exit Five so go check out their website that’s P-H-A-R-O-S-I-Q dot com slash exitfive one word right now. 
    ***
    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.
    They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

    • 34 min
    #142: Strategy | Jason Lemkin on What Makes a Great VP Marketing in SaaS, Working with the CEO, and Lessons from SaaStr

    #142: Strategy | Jason Lemkin on What Makes a Great VP Marketing in SaaS, Working with the CEO, and Lessons from SaaStr

    Dave is joined by Jason Lemkin. Jason is the founder of SaaStr, the world’s largest community of SaaS executives, founders, and entrepreneurs. Before SaaStr, Jason founded EchoSign, which was sold to Adobe in 2011. 
    They discuss
    Why Jason started SaaStrWhat makes a great VP of Marketing in SaaS and how to hire oneHow tech and SaaS have changed since 2020CROs vs CMOsImportance of alignment between the CEO and marketing teamTimestamps
    (00:00) - - Intro

    (05:12) - - Understanding the Importance of Revenue Goals

    (08:36) - - Evolving Motivations and Changing Perspectives

    (12:42) - - From Solopreneur to Founder: The Journey of Exit Five

    (16:38) - - The Challenge of Transitioning from Solopreneurship

    (18:37) - - Insights into Jason's Content Creation Process

    (21:21) - - Efficiency in writing: a five-minute rule

    (26:29) - - LinkedIn: A Haven for Text-Based Writers

    (27:55) - - LinkedIn's Good Community and Marketing Potential

    (33:21) - - Importance of Building Relationships in Business

    (38:06) - - Marketing Essentials: Brand, Field, Demand, Growth

    (40:43) - - Finding the Right Fit: Aligning Marketing Roles with Company Vision

    (43:48) - - Finding Alignment: The Role of Marketing in Company Leadership

    (48:00) - - CROs and Marketing

    (50:49) - - Balancing Heads: Sales, Marketing, and Post-Sales in SaaS Leadership

    (54:09) - - Event Planning

    (56:04) - - SaaStr: Connecting Founders and Revenue Professionals

    Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership
    ***
    Today’s episode is brought to you by PharosIQ. 

    In 2024, you face tougher pipeline challenges than ever: reduced budgets, tighter resources, and fewer active buyers. 

    Yet your growth goals remain unchanged. 
     
    PharosIQ leverages down-funnel intent signals along with targeted demand solutions to help you build your pipeline efficiently. 

    They help B2B marketing leaders reach their ideal buyers and generate leads that actually convert for businesses of all sizes. 
     
    Generating leads is easy; generating leads that convert is what separates PharosIQ from the competition. 

    Check them out at PharosIQ.com/exitfive; book a meeting with their team …PLUS, their team is giving away memberships to Exit Five so go check out their website that’s P-H-A-R-O-S-I-Q dot com slash exitfive one word right now. 
    ***
    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.
    They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

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    We're Hiring for Content Marketing at Exit Five (Details Here)

    We're Hiring for Content Marketing at Exit Five (Details Here)

    We're growing our team at Exit Five voice. This is a quick message from Dave about a new Content Marketing role we just opened up.
    You can read more about this role and apply here on our job board.
    Maybe our next great teammate is already listening to the Exit Five podcast...

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