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Hosted by productivity strategist Mike Vardy, A Productive Conversation is a podcast that discusses tips, tools, tactics, and tricks that are designed to help you take your productivity, time management, goals, to do lists, habits, and workflow to new heights - both at work and at home. If you're looking to focus your efforts on getting the right things done and start living the good life, then this weekly conversational podcast – crafted in the tradition of Slate's Working, Back to Work, and HBR IdeaCast – is for you.

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Hosted by productivity strategist Mike Vardy, A Productive Conversation is a podcast that discusses tips, tools, tactics, and tricks that are designed to help you take your productivity, time management, goals, to do lists, habits, and workflow to new heights - both at work and at home. If you're looking to focus your efforts on getting the right things done and start living the good life, then this weekly conversational podcast – crafted in the tradition of Slate's Working, Back to Work, and HBR IdeaCast – is for you.

    PM Talks S1E3: Nuance

    PM Talks S1E3: Nuance

    Welcome to the latest episode of our monthly series, PM Talks, where we delve deep into the nuances of productivity, creativity, and the art of living a thoughtful life. In this episode, Patrick and I have taken an explorative dive into the realms of language evolution, the essence of creativity, and the significance of nuance in our fast-paced world. It's a conversation that spans the spectrum of art and commerce, the dynamics of personal connections, and the profound impact of creativity on society.
    Key Discussion Points

    The origins and evolving meanings of terms like "simpleton" and "Inbox Zero," highlighting the fluid nature of language and its impact on our understanding and communication.

    The dangers of absolutism in a world that thrives on brevity, and the critical need for nuance to avoid miscommunication and misunderstandings.

    The interplay between art and commerce, as discussed through personal anecdotes and experiences, emphasizing the subjective nature of art and its capacity for disruption.

    Rick Rubin's influence on creativity and self-expression, with insights from his book "The Creative Act," advocating for risk-taking and evolution in the creative process.

    The importance of tapping into existing energy and flow for creativity, contrasting the approaches of Steven Pressfield's "The War of Art" and Rick Rubin's "The Creative Act."

    The unique ability of art and creativity to evoke personal interpretations and meanings, underscoring the diminishing presence of nuance in today's society.

    The role of nuance in decision-making and productivity, highlighting the limitations of black-and-white thinking and advocating for a more nuanced, optimistic outlook.


    To wrap up, this episode has been a profound exploration of how nuance plays an indispensable role in enriching our productivity, creativity, and the way we perceive the world around us. As we dissected topics from language evolution to the essence of creativity, it became clear that embracing the complexities and subtleties of life can lead to deeper understanding and fulfillment. Remember, it's in the shades of gray that the full spectrum of human experience comes to light.
    As always, thank you for joining me on this journey. Until next time, keep seeking the nuance in everything you do.
    Links Worth Exploring

    "What we are witnessing right now is the death of nuance."

    Inbox Zero (circa 2007) by Merlin Mann

    Rick Rubin chats with Nick Cave

    Rick Rubin chats with Steven Pressfield

    Rick Rubin wrote a book that we both read. Get it here.


    Check out Patrick's website.

    Read some Rhoneisms here.


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    • 57 min
    Chris Knudsen Talks About Unconventional Business Wisdom

    Chris Knudsen Talks About Unconventional Business Wisdom

    In this episode, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Chris Knudsen, author of the non-traditional business book, "Trust Me, I'm a Consultant." Chris shared insights into the unconventional approach to writing a business book, reflecting on his extensive experience in the corporate world and his successful transition to self-employment. We delved into the heart of entrepreneurial spirit, the importance of self-education, and the value of learning from failures.
    Chris's journey from the corporate ladder to authoring a book during the challenging times of the COVID-19 pandemic is an inspirational one. Our conversation covered a wide range of topics, including the limitations of the university system, career development, entrepreneurship, and the pivotal moments that redefine our paths. Chris's perspective on happiness, productivity, and personal growth offers valuable lessons for anyone looking to navigate the complexities of today’s business world.
    Key Discussion Points

    The process and challenges of writing "Trust Me, I'm a Consultant" during the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Reflections on the limitations of the university system and the advocacy for self-education.

    Insights into career development and the transition to self-employment at 35.

    The importance of learning from business failures and the ability to bounce back through consulting work.

    The concept of choosing happiness, overcoming complacency, and finding balance in life.

    Strategies for prioritizing time and productivity in a busy world, including the significance of perspective and incremental progress.

    The role of personal growth in decision-making and the emphasis on empathy and problem-solving in business.


    In wrapping up, Chris’s narrative is a powerful reminder that the path to success is not always linear. His story encourages us to embrace the unconventional, learn from our experiences, and always strive for personal and professional growth. Whether you’re contemplating a career shift, starting your own business, or seeking ways to enhance your productivity and happiness, Chris's insights offer valuable guidance.
    Links Worth Exploring

    Connect with Chris: Website | LinkedIn


    Get Chris's book: "Trust Me, I'm a Consultant"


    Related Conversation: Episode 508: Jim Vaselopulos Talks About Achieving Clarity in Business and Life


    Related Blog Post: Balance Schmalance



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    • 46 min
    FROM THE VAULT: Nir Eyal Talks About Mastering Focus By Being Indistractable

    FROM THE VAULT: Nir Eyal Talks About Mastering Focus By Being Indistractable

    In this episode, originally released in October 2019, I sit down with Nir Eyal. Nir is the author of "Indistractable: How to Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life". and is known for his groundbreaking work on habit formation and technology's impact on our lives, shares invaluable insights into the mechanisms of distraction and how we can harness them to live more fulfilling lives. As we navigate through the conversation, Nir's perspectives offer a fresh lens on productivity, self-control, and the pursuit of personal and professional growth.
    Our dialogue spans a wide array of topics, from the practical strategies outlined in "Indistractable" to the philosophical underpinnings of focus and distraction. We delve into Nir's distinction between traction and distraction, the importance of understanding internal triggers, and the practical steps we can take to become indistractable. With his unique blend of research-backed insights and personal anecdotes, Nir provides listeners with the tools to take control of their attention and, by extension, their lives.
    Key Discussion Points

    The critical difference between traction and distraction and why mastering this distinction is key to productivity.

    How to master internal triggers to enhance productivity and time management.

    The role of willpower and self-control in managing both internal and external distractions.

    The significance of identifying and reinforcing one's identity to combat distraction.

    Strategies for effective communication, meal planning, and using productivity tools.

    The concept of "effort packs" and "progressive extremism" for personal development.

    The impact of technology on attention spans and the importance of digital minimalism.


    My conversation with Nir Eyal not only illuminates the hidden mechanisms of distraction but also equips us with the knowledge and tools to reclaim our focus. His book "Indistractable" is not just a manual for productivity; it's a blueprint for living a more intentional and fulfilling life. Whether you're struggling with distraction in your personal life, seeking to enhance your productivity at work, or simply interested in the intersection of technology and psychology, Nir's insights are sure to resonate and inspire.
    Links Worth Exploring

    Connect with Nir: Website | X/Twitter


    Get the book: Indistractable: How to Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life


    Check out Nir's podcast: Nir and Far


    Nir would like you to check this out: Schedule Maker


    Related Conversation: Episode 201: Willpower Doesn’t Work with Benjamin Hardy


    Related Blog Post: The 106 Year Old Problem



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    • 52 min
    Haemin Sunim Talks About Zen Wisdom for Life's Challenges

    Haemin Sunim Talks About Zen Wisdom for Life's Challenges

    Welcome to this thought-provoking episode where I have the pleasure of speaking with Haemin Sunim, a Zen Buddhist teacher and celebrated author. Today, we delve into his latest book, When Things Don't Go Your Way: Zen Wisdom for Difficult Times, exploring the nuanced perspectives it offers on navigating the turbulent waters of life through the calming lens of Zen Buddhism. Haemin's unique writing style, which beautifully weaves together personal insights with quotes from various sources, makes the profound teachings of Zen accessible to all.
    Haemin is one of the most influential Zen Buddhist teachers and writers in South Korea, where his books have sold more than three million copies and are popular as guides not only to mediation but also to overcoming the challenges of everyday life. Born in South Korea, he came to the United States to study film, only to find himself pulled into the spiritual life. Educated at UC Berkeley, Harvard, and Princeton, he received formal monastic training in Korea and taught Buddhism at Hampshire College in Amherst, Massachusetts. He lives in Seoul when not traveling to share his teachings.
    Our conversation covers a wide range of topics, from the therapeutic power of journaling to the subtle differences between contentment and happiness. Haemin shares his personal journey of facing fears head-on and finding peace in the present moment. His insights are not just philosophical musings but practical advice that can be seamlessly integrated into daily life. Through our dialogue, we uncover the layers of wisdom hidden in everyday experiences and discuss how to embrace life's imperfections gracefully.
    Key Discussion Points

    The importance of talking to one's fears to understand and overcome them.

    Differentiating contentment from happiness: finding peace in acceptance.

    The therapeutic benefits of journaling for uncovering and facing fears.

    Embracing the present moment to find joy in everyday experiences.

    The distinction between a "doing-centered" life and a "being-centered" life.

    The significance of self-worth and appreciating the inherent value of life.

    Facing and accepting uncomfortable emotions for personal growth and insight.


    My conversation with Haemin Sunim offers a refreshing perspective on life's challenges and the pursuit of happiness. His wisdom encourages us to slow down, appreciate the present, and find contentment in the simplicity of being. Whether you're facing difficult times or simply seeking a deeper understanding of yourself and the world around you, Haemin's insights provide a valuable guide for navigating life with grace and mindfulness.
    Links Worth Exploring

    Connect with Haemin: Website | X/Twitter | Instagram


    Get Haemin's book: When Things Don't Go Your Way: Zen Wisdom for Difficult Times


    Check out Haemin's body of work: Author Page


    Related Conversation: Episode 138: Zen and The Art of Work with Kourosh Dini


    Related Blog Post: How to Take a “Time Tour”



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    • 1 hr 2 min
    PM Talks S1:E2: Choices

    PM Talks S1:E2: Choices

    Welcome back to our monthly series, PM Talks, featuring a conversation with my good friend Patrick Rhone. In this latest episode, our conversation that spans from our shared podcasting passion and planner geekery to deeper explorations of contentment, choice, and the essence of enough. Patrick, with his unique insights and experiences, brings a fresh perspective to the familiar topics of goal setting and minimalism, while also touching on the deeply personal aspects of happiness and mental health.
    Our discussion was wide-ranging, but one topic stood out prominently: Choices. This theme resonated throughout our conversation, highlighting the significant impact of intentional living and personal metrics on achieving genuine satisfaction in life.
    Key Discussion Points

    Setting and pursuing personal goals with a focus on minimalism and reducing unnecessary possessions.

    The concept of "enough" and its relationship to happiness and contentment, drawing on insights from Daniel Kahneman on happiness.

    The personal journey of writing meaningful books, both as gifts and as tools for understanding and responsibility.

    The use of practical tools like a highlighter/post-it combo for organization, and how these small choices reflect deeper values and intentions.

    Addressing mental health through self-care, understanding the power of choice, and managing emotions with intention.


    In wrapping up, this conversation was a deeper dive into how we define and seek happiness in our lives. Patrick's approach to living intentionally, making mindful choices, and finding contentment in "enough" offers valuable lessons for all of us. Whether it's through the planners we obsess over, the goals we set, or the way we approach our mental health, the underlying message is clear: happiness is a personal journey, influenced by our choices and actions.
    Links Worth Exploring

    A conversation between Adam Grant and Daniel Kahneman

    The Creative Act: A Way of Being by Rick Rubin

    Post-it Flag+ Highlighter

    The Perfectionists: How Precision Engineers Created the Modern World

    Inside of You: Alan Ritchson


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    • 37 min
    Haris Butt Talks About AI and Productivity Enhancements

    Haris Butt Talks About AI and Productivity Enhancements

    Welcome to this episode where Haris Butt, the head of product design at ClickUp, and I dive deep into the intersection of AI and productivity. In today's discussion, we explore how artificial intelligence, specifically within tools like ClickUp, is revolutionizing the way we approach tasks, manage time, and unlock creativity. Haris shares invaluable insights into the balance between technology and human input, ensuring we harness the full potential of AI without losing the essence of personal touch in productivity.
    Our conversation navigates through the practical applications of AI in everyday tasks, the advancements in product design influenced by AI, and the critical role of trust and reliability in these systems. Haris's experience at ClickUp provides a unique lens on the topic, offering practical advice and thought-provoking ideas on integrating AI into our workflows to achieve efficiency and creativity.
    Key Discussion Points

    Benefits and drawbacks of using AI in productivity, with a focus on time-saving tasks.

    The role of AI in product design, emphasizing the importance of trust in data and systems.

    Distinctions between generative AI and other AI forms, exploring their impact on productivity.

    Overcoming the fear of AI through understanding and trust, using AI to unlock creativity.

    Practical uses of AI tools like ChatGPT for tasks ranging from academic research to meal planning.

    The concept of "life hacks" with AI, streamlining workflows, and enhancing information retrieval.

    The introduction of ClickUp Brain, aiming to revolutionize how new and established users engage with ClickUp for increased productivity.


    In closing, my discussion with Haris not only highlights the significant benefits AI brings to productivity tools but also stresses the importance of thoughtful integration to truly augment human capabilities. As we look towards the future, the potential of AI to streamline workflows, reduce friction, and free us to focus on high-value tasks is immense. Haris's insights remind us that the journey towards integrating AI into our daily lives is one of balance, trust, and continuous learning.
    Links Worth Exploring

    ClickUp Brain: Check it out


    Related Conversation: Episode 505: Matt Martin Talks About AI-Enhanced Productivity and Time Management


    Related Blog Post: What the #%$! Happened to Lifehacker?



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    • 44 min

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