Jeff and Jonny are pastors who want to encourage pastors of “smaller” churches. All most pastors see online are the churches that have grown into the thousands in just a few years, the ones that spread out around the city through multiple services and multiple campuses. The ministry leaders with the most influence are the mega church pastors with mega ministries, staffs, and dollars. Praise God for what He is doing in these large and influential churches! We benefit from their vision and influence.Jeff and Jonny know that there are hundreds of thousands, that have 200 or less in attendance. The work of these pastors and ministries can get lost in the shuffle, and they want to encourage, equip, support, inspire, and cheer on the pastors of 200churches – those churches with around 200 people, give or take a hundred or two! When they talk with guests like N.T. Wright, Scot McKnight, Dan Reiland, Carey Nieuwhof and so many more, they always turn the conversation to small church pastoral ministry.With humor, passion, conviction, and care Jeff and Jonny share methods and inspiration for the small church pastor. If you are a lay, bi-vocational, or solo pastor, the 200churches Podcast is for YOU!
Episode 400 - Jeff & Jonny LIVE - Celebrating 400 Episodes
Jeff and Jonny are LIVE together on this episode, catching up after a long summer, reminiscing over the last 400 episodes, and recalling some of the very memorable guests over the years, with cameo appearances by John Lynch, Kay Warren, Vinny Provenzano, and N.T. Wright.
This was a blast to record, and you will enjoy this CLASSIC episode!
Here are the links to the full episodes we reference in Episode 400:
John Lynch - Episode 61
Kay Warren - Episode 226
Vinny Provenzano - Episode 286
N.T. Wright - Episode 200
Vinny's Website - We Chose Love.com
Episode 399 - Let Your Church Be Known For Something with Mark MacDonald
He is a church communications and branding episode, who is actually the REAL DEAL. He has the heart of an evangelist, and has a craving for churches to reach people for Jesus. Sometimes us pastors can't get out of our own way - my words (Jeff) not his!
But Mark MacDonald helps us say less so our community will listen more. As a corporate communications and marketing guy - who was also a Christian - Mark realized that church leaders did not understand how to, in a ministerially and spiritually appropriate way, market their ministries. He wondered how he could help them get more of what people need (the Gospel) to the actual people who need it (the community).
Mark's organization is called, BE KNOWN FOR SOMETHING.
Mark did not seek me out, I found him online, and realizing he was the real deal, asked him to join me on the podcast.
You are going to LOVE this!
You can check out Mark's book, Be Known For Something, right HERE!
Episode 398 - Hey Pastor, Here Are Some Things To Reconsider
Dave Jacobs and I talk about some things that pastors might want to reconsider. They come from his book, Second Thoughts - 100 things small church pastors need to reconsider.
Dave recommends we
reconsider the length of our sermonsreconsider the value of wasting timereconsider our bias (ouch!)The standard for this podcast is twofold: 1) helpful, and 2) encouraging. I think we hit both targets squarely!
Episode 397 - Excellent Leadership Through A Horrible Scenario with Suzanne Vogel
The church was waist deep into a Capital Campaign for a major church renovation, and mere weeks from engaging all the construction work... and then the pandemic hit. Ugh.
They had over a million dollars already contributed with millions more pledged. The vision had been cast, all the hard work of strategic planning finished - they had waded into the pool.
What to do? "God!!?? What do we do?!"
Here's what the lead pastor did of this multisite church...
(Suzanne was also on Episode 242, if you want to hear some real back story exactly five years ago to the week!)
Episode 396 - A Theological Brew - Leading Ministry In A Secular Age with Andrew Root
Andrew Root, Ph.D. is a professor of youth and family ministry at Luther Seminary in St. Paul MN, and an author who writes about pastors and churches in the secular age for Baker Academic Publishing.
Jeff and Andy talk about his passion and message - that churches don't really have a relevance or resource problem, it's a very different challenge they are up against. Andy lays it out - you WILL enjoy this and grow from it!
Find Andrew here! And Check Out His Podcast Here!
Episode 395 - Sports, Academia, and Pastor's Kids with Paul Golden
Jeff talks with Paul Golden, on staff at Clarks Summit University, founder of Post Game with Paul Golden - A Sports + Faith Podcast and owner of PaulGolden.org.
Paul grew up in a pastor's home, attended Bible College and Seminary, has an M.Div., is the Chaplain of the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins Hockey Team, and has literally spent his entire life in and around ministry.
Paul talks about the coaches and athletes he's interviewed on his podcast, training pastors and Christian workers in the 21st century, and so much more. You're going to enjoy this conversation!
I so appreciate your courage to air this episode. Dave is an inspiring voice in the kingdom. I love your podcast and am thrilled you are back with season 2
Pastoral Leadership in time of Crisis
Jeff, Thank you for this very helpful word of hope and encouragement for such a time as this. I shared this with my pastor. Sam Thomas.
Love these guys & their podcasts!
I really appreciate these two brothers for their genuineness and how they work off each other in a fun way. These two are real pastors who have a genuine concern for small church pastors, and this comes out in their dialog with each other, the topics featured and people they interview. They don't take themselves too seriously but their podcasts feature some seriously solid help and insights.
Definitely one of my favorite podcasts of all!