62 episodes

Join Steven Kuhr for an engaging and informative podcast, 5 Minutes to Chaos. This podcast is designed for Emergency Managers and Crisis Leaders who navigate the dynamic, threat-rich landscape of today's world. Unlike other podcasts, 5 Minutes to Chaos features unscripted, unrehearsed discussions that provide valuable insights into major emergencies and critical incidents. With a focus on real-world experiences, this podcast promotes learning by examining the challenges faced by incident leadership and the solutions they derived. Tune in for a unique perspective on crisis management.

5 Minutes to Chaos Steven Kuhr

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Join Steven Kuhr for an engaging and informative podcast, 5 Minutes to Chaos. This podcast is designed for Emergency Managers and Crisis Leaders who navigate the dynamic, threat-rich landscape of today's world. Unlike other podcasts, 5 Minutes to Chaos features unscripted, unrehearsed discussions that provide valuable insights into major emergencies and critical incidents. With a focus on real-world experiences, this podcast promotes learning by examining the challenges faced by incident leadership and the solutions they derived. Tune in for a unique perspective on crisis management.

    Episode 58 - Senior Emergency Manager Paul Penn Discusses His Extensive Career and Broad Crisis Management Topics

    Episode 58 - Senior Emergency Manager Paul Penn Discusses His Extensive Career and Broad Crisis Management Topics

    Summary

    In this episode of Five Minutes to Chaos, host Steven Kuhr interviews Paul Penn, an experienced emergency management leader. They discuss the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland - which occurred on the day of the recording - and how crisis management architecture potentially helped the response. They highlight the importance of communication in crisis management and the quick response to the Mayday call from the captain of the vessel. They also touch on the challenges of aging infrastructure and the need for crisis management in various industries. The conversation delves into the role of emergency managers and the importance of diversity and collaboration in the field. In this conversation, Steven Kuhr and Paul Penn discuss various topics related to emergency management and crisis management. They touch on the importance of public access to information about chemicals used in communities and the need for communities to be prepared for offsite consequences. They also discuss the role of Local Emergency Planning Committees (LEPCs) in emergency planning and the need for all-hazard programs. They highlight the importance of communication, coordination, and cultivating champions in emergency management. They also emphasize the need for executive support and the integration of health and safety principles in emergency management.



    Takeaways

    Communication is the backbone of failure and crisis management.

    Quick response to crisis situations can save lives.

    Aging infrastructure poses challenges and requires maintenance operations.

    Emergency managers need to consider diverse perspectives and collaborate with different disciplines. Public access to information about chemicals used in communities is important for community understanding and preparedness.

    Local Emergency Planning Committees (LEPCs) play a crucial role in emergency planning and should have an all-hazard focus.

    Communication and coordination are essential in emergency management, and there is always room for improvement in these areas.

    Executive support is necessary for effective emergency management.

    Cultivating champions and building relationships with key stakeholders can enhance the success of emergency management programs.

    Emergency management should integrate health and safety principles and consider the mental health impacts of emergencies.

    Prevention, mitigation, and resilience efforts are important in emergency preparedness.

    Emergency managers should have direct access to leaders and be able to communicate with all stakeholders.

    Being first, right, and credible in communication is crucial in emergency management.

    Emergency managers should focus on common sense and consideration in their decision-making.

    Emergency management is a combination of crisis management, environmental management, and health and safety management.



    Contact Information

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-penn-11b236/

    • 1 hr 7 min
    Episode 57 - FDNY Chief and Author Jerry Tracy Discusses Major Incident Management, Incident Process System, Incident Scene Intelligence, and His Recent Book on High-Rise Building Fires

    Episode 57 - FDNY Chief and Author Jerry Tracy Discusses Major Incident Management, Incident Process System, Incident Scene Intelligence, and His Recent Book on High-Rise Building Fires

    Summary

    In this conversation, Steven Kuhr and Battalion Chief Jerry Tracy discuss the various units and operations of the New York City Fire Department (FDNY). They highlight the extensive experience and expertise of the FDNY in responding to complex emergencies and crises. They also discuss the formation and role of squad companies, which are specialized units that can respond to fires, hazardous materials incidents, and other emergencies.

    The conversation emphasizes the importance of training and preparedness in effectively managing and responding to emergencies. The conversation covers various topics related to firefighting and emergency response. Some key themes include the importance of backup and coordination between different departments, the impact of tragic events on changing tactics and procedures, the need for integration between EMS and fire operations, and the development of rapid intervention teams (RIT) or firefighter assistance search teams (FAST).

    Chief Tracy discusses various topics related to firefighting and emergency response. He shares insights on the challenges faced when dealing with high-rise fires and the importance of effective communication during emergencies. Chief Tracy emphasizes the need for clear and concise communication between different agencies and departments to ensure a coordinated response. He also highlights the significance of strategic communication in emergency management. The conversation touches on the importance of training and preparedness, as well as the need for continuous learning and improvement in the fire service.

    Takeaways

    The FDNY is the largest fire department in the United States.

    Squad companies are specialized units within the FDNY that are trained to respond to a wide range of emergencies, including fires, hazardous materials incidents, and technical rescues.

    The FDNY has a diverse range of units and resources, including hazmat teams, urban search and rescue teams, wildland fire companies, and mobile respiratory units.

    Training, preparedness, and collaboration with other agencies are key factors in the FDNY's ability to effectively respond to emergencies and protect the public.

    Backup and coordination between different departments are crucial in emergency response situations.

    Tragic events often lead to changes in tactics and procedures.

    Integration between fire and EMS operations can improve overall response effectiveness.

    Rapid intervention teams (RIT) or firefighter assistance search teams (FAST) play a vital role in firefighter safety.

    Firefighters continue to face challenges and make sacrifices in their line of duty.

    Buildings can be 'born sick and dying,' referring to new construction, renovations, and abandoned or demolished structures. Emergency responders must be prepared for any situation.

    Effective communication is crucial during emergencies. Incident commanders and responders should have clear channels of communication to ensure a coordinated response.

    The incident process system is a structured approach to incident command that helps relieve the incident commander of micromanaging tasks. It allows units to fall into place as they arrive on the scene.

    Strategic communication between police, fire, and EMS is essential for a unified response. Agencies should work together to develop a coordinated strategy.

    The importance of training and continuous learning in the fire service cannot be overstated. Firefighters should be knowledgeable about their responsibilities and be prepared to adapt to different situations.

    Contact Information

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerry-tracy-6749b127/

    • 1 hr 50 min
    Episode 56 - Crisis Manager Michael Moquin Discusses Career and Growth Opportunities for Entry- and Mid-Career Level Crisis Managers

    Episode 56 - Crisis Manager Michael Moquin Discusses Career and Growth Opportunities for Entry- and Mid-Career Level Crisis Managers

    Summary

    In this conversation, Steven Kuhr and Michael Moquin discuss their experiences and observations in the emergency management and crisis management fields. They highlight the broad scope of emergency management, which encompasses both the public and private sectors. They also discuss the impact of COVID-19 on the industry, with an increase in crisis management jobs in the private sector. They emphasize the importance of reading job descriptions carefully to understand the specific focus of each role. They also discuss the need for a generalized crisis management framework that can be applied to various incidents, along with incident-specific annexes or playbooks. In this conversation, Steven and Mike discusse the importance of understanding the specific risks and hazards that a business or organization may face. They emphasizes the need for crisis managers to have a comprehensive understanding of the business operations and dependencies, both domestically and internationally. Mike and Steve also highlight the importance of networking and building relationships within the industry, as well as finding a niche within emergency management. Mike suggests that aspiring emergency managers should pursue certifications that align with their interests and career goals.



    Takeaways



    Emergency management is a broad field that includes both the public and private sectors.



    The COVID-19 pandemic has led to an increase in crisis management jobs in the private sector.

    Job titles in emergency management can vary, so it's important to read job descriptions carefully to understand the specific focus of each role.



    A generalized crisis management framework, along with incident-specific annexes or playbooks, is an effective approach to emergency management planning.



    Crisis managers should have a thorough understanding of the specific risks and hazards that a business or organization may face.



    It is important for crisis managers to have a comprehensive understanding of the business operations and dependencies, both domestically and internationally.



    Networking and building relationships within the industry is crucial for career development in emergency management.



    Aspiring emergency managers should pursue certifications that align with their interests and career goals.

    Contact Information

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-moquin/

    • 1 hr 2 min
    Episode 55 - A Power Panel Discusses Crisis Management Exercise Typology, Design, Successes, Challenges, and Technology

    Episode 55 - A Power Panel Discusses Crisis Management Exercise Typology, Design, Successes, Challenges, and Technology

    Summary

    In this episode, host Steve Kuhr is joined by three guests to discuss the importance of exercises in crisis management. The guests include Rob Burton, the CEO of prepared X and ICMC, Tod Langley, the co-founder and CEO of Crisis Response Leader Training, and Adam Montella, a crisis manager and emergency manager and SVP at SummitET. They discuss the different types of exercises, such as tabletops, functional exercises, and full-scale exercises, and the importance of continuous improvement and taking action based on the lessons learned. They also highlight the challenges of engaging senior leaders and stakeholders in the exercise process and the need for a formalized crisis management team in organizations. The conversation focused on the use of exercises in crisis management and the role of technology in enhancing these exercises. The participants discussed the importance of understanding the consequences and impacts of decisions, as well as the need for executives to be involved in the recovery process. They also highlighted the prevalence of cyber events and the need for organizations to be prepared for them. The conversation touched on the use of technology, such as virtual reality and augmented reality, in conducting exercises, but emphasized the importance of human expertise and emotional intelligence in guiding the exercise process. Overall, the participants emphasized the value of exercises in improving preparedness and the need for a combination of technology and human facilitation in conducting effective exercises.



    Takeaways



    Exercises are a crucial component of crisis management and can range from tabletop discussions to full-scale simulations.

    Continuous improvement is essential in exercises, and organizations should take action based on the lessons learned.

    Engaging senior leaders and stakeholders in the exercise process can be challenging, but it is crucial for effective crisis management.

    Having a formalized crisis management team is important for organizations to effectively respond to crises and disasters. Understanding the consequences and impacts of decisions is crucial in crisis management.

    Executives need to be involved in the recovery process and understand the importance of the first 10 minutes and the subsequent 12 to 24 hours in determining the outcome of a crisis.

    Cyber events are prevalent and organizations need to be prepared for them.

    Technology, such as virtual reality and augmented reality, can enhance exercises, but human expertise and emotional intelligence are still essential in guiding the exercise process.

    Exercises are valuable in improving preparedness and organizations should strive for a combination of technology and human facilitation in conducting effective exercises.



    Contact Information

    Rob Burton

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/robburton9/



    Tod Langley

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/tod-langley-ceo-80103654/



    Adam Montella

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/disasterguy/

    • 1 hr 13 min
    Episode 54 - Dr. Jeanette Sutton Joins the Chaos to Discuss Evidence Based Warning Message Construct and Other Public Messaging Issues

    Episode 54 - Dr. Jeanette Sutton Joins the Chaos to Discuss Evidence Based Warning Message Construct and Other Public Messaging Issues

    Introduction
    Jeannette Sutton, Ph.D., specializes in disaster and risk with a primary focus on online informal communication, and public alerts and warnings disseminated via short messaging channels. Much of her research investigates the evolving role of information and communication technology, including social media and mobile devices, for disaster preparedness, response, and recovery. Her current work centers on message design and testing across a range of hazard contexts including atmospheric, meteorological, geological, technological, biological, and human induced threats for communication via Wireless Emergency Alerts and other alerting channels. She is employed at the University at Albany, SUNY, as an Associate Professor in the Department of Emergency Management and Homeland Security. She is also the director of the Emergency and Risk Communication Message Testing Lab. And in her spare time, she critiques Wireless Emergency Alerts on Twitter (@warningrater) and hosts a webpage called “The Warn Room” thewarnroom.com.
    Dr. Sutton has held numerous grants from the National Science Foundation, FEMA-IPAWS, DHS, NOAA, USGS, and the Office of Naval Research. Her research has been published in Risk Analysis, the Journal of Homeland Security and Emergency Management; the Proceedings of Information Systems for Crisis Response and Management; Information, Communication, and Society; Health Communication; and the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Jeannette is an appointed member of the National Construction Safety Team Advisory Board at NIST. She holds a Ph.D. in sociology from the University of Colorado, Boulder, and completed her postdoctoral training at the Natural Hazards Center.

    Contact Information
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeannettesutton/

    • 1 hr 2 min
    Episode 53 - Senior Risk Solutions Specialist Peter Dworsky Discusses His Roles in EMS Leadership, Emergency Management, Risk Solutions, and Crisis Management

    Episode 53 - Senior Risk Solutions Specialist Peter Dworsky Discusses His Roles in EMS Leadership, Emergency Management, Risk Solutions, and Crisis Management

    Introduction

    Peter is the Senior Risk Solutions Specialist for The Markel Group. He has been in EMS, emergency management and safety for over 30 years, having worked as a paramedic in NYC, as the Paramedic Director at Jersey City Medical Center and the Director of EMS and Disaster Preparedness for Saint Barnabas Health Care System. Peter was also the Safety Officer for the NJ State EMS Task Force. He remains a member of the Executive Board of the International Association of EMS Chiefs after completing his term as the President. Peter has published numerous textbook chapters and articles related to EMS and Emergency Management and routinely speaks at state and national conferences.



    His credentials include a master’s degree in public health, a bachelor’s degree in EMS Management, and he has his CEM from the IAEM and is a Fellow of the American College of Paramedic Executives. Peter is also a Master SCUBA instructor and for fun - a certified Kansas City BBQ judge.

    Contact Information

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-dworsky-mph-nrp-cem-facpe-a8b1347/

    • 44 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
12 Ratings

12 Ratings

Steven Hiller ,

Practical Crisis Management Gold Mine

The conversations that Steve has with emergency and crisis managers are extremely practical and down-to-earth. I absolutely love how he keeps the topics grounded in reality and rooted in real-life examples of successes.

Great listen for anyone coming up in the industry…but also fantastic for veterans trying to keep our “brain juices” moving!

62C11 ,

5 Minutes to Chaos

I continue to enjoy the diversity of presenter's on 5 Minutes to Chaos. Fundamental EM skills remain applicable to large and small incidents. Resource availability often dictates the need for expanded circles of influence. The Rolodex in whatever form is used remains pivotal.

NickG2448 ,

Best in the Business

If you care about emergency management, crisis management & homeland security, this is the podcast for you. Steve Kuhr is the best in the business and provides a wealth of institutional knowledge.

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