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APACT is a podcast about the things some of the less talked about issues and theology that everyday Catholics often hear but seldom explained.

A Podcast About Catholic Things APACT

    • Religion & Spirituality
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APACT is a podcast about the things some of the less talked about issues and theology that everyday Catholics often hear but seldom explained.

    Are Radical Catholics Too Religious?

    Are Radical Catholics Too Religious?

    This week on A Podcast About Catholic Things, Eric (The Ambassador of Common Sense) and Dan (The Ambassador Of Nonsense) discuss the idea that fanaticism or radicalism can or cannot apply to Christianity--or more specifically, to Catholicism.  When God asks for everything, how can we give Him too much?

    In current events, 67 nations sign the High Seas Treaty.  UAW workers on strike.  Biden goes to see them.  Writers' strike ends.  Fire in China mine.  Cuban Embassy 'bombed.'  NASA lands OSIRIS-Rex.  Philippines fighting with China.  FTC fighting with Amazon.  Anthony Rota introduces Nazi… Trudeau claps.  North Korea sends back prisoner.  Joan Andrews is convicted.   California sues life-saving drugmakers.  O'keef sues Hawaii.  School elects queen for homecoming.  Strickland told to resign.  Pennsylvanians walk out of school.  McCarrick goes to Wisconsin.  China charges priest with fraud.  Josh Alexander's brother beat then arrested.  Nebraska Gma to spend 2 years in jail for killing grandchild.  Polish Basilica burned after gay orgy.

    In the land of nonsense, artist sells blank painting.  Man fakes passenger.  Michigan woman gets stuck in outhouse.  Nerf gun extreme.

    SHOW NOTES:

    Strains of Steve Miller
    https://apnews.com/article/denmark-artist-money-empty-canvases-e57483d602d74409cd82b892f62474cb

    Pure Michigan...
    https://www.abc12.com/news/state/woman-rescued-from-outhouse-toilet-in-northern-michigan/article_cadc1e8c-57ca-11ee-a62a-3fcacfb1d1ac.html

    Give the HOV lane checkers a purpose in life
    https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2023/09/27/HOV-lane-Halloween-mask-Washington-State-Patrol/2731695833566/

    Hi-tech nerfing...
    https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2023/09/27/germany-Guinness-World-Records-Nerf-gun/6971695828342/

     







    Joan Andrews Bell writes from prison: I want to live like a cloistered nun in her cell

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/joan-andrews-bell-writes-from-prison-i-want-to-live-like-a-cloistered-nun-in-her-cell/

    How the DC pro-life convictions could strike down the FACE Act and put an abortionist in jail
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/analysis/how-the-dc-pro-life-convictions-could-strike-down-the-face-act-and-put-an-abortionist-in-jail/
    We went into court on the first day believing Mom would be able to say her opening statement, but the judge denied her that right because she stated that what was written was against the legal parameters of what could be said in an opening statement. Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly (one of former President Bill Clinton’s nominees) did say, though, that Mom could read her opening statement only if she would take the stand and testify.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1988/07/16/can-florida-break-joan-andrews/b586d207-67b0-4c59-b372-e16ebd2cef36/
    During the eleven days he spent in jail, MLK writes his famous Letter from a Birmingham Jail.


    Pro-life rescuer Lauren Handy again denied emergency release from jail after FACE Act conviction
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pro-life-rescuer-lauren-handy-again-denied-emergency-release-from-jail-after-face-act-conviction/

    Joan Bell Andrews’ daughter speaks out: ‘I was physically and emotionally crippled by’ FACE Act trial
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/joan-bell-andrews-daughter-speaks-out-i-was-physically-and-emotionally-crippled-by-face-act-trial/




    California sues pro-life groups in an attempt to quash abortion pill reversal

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/california-sues-pro-life-groups-in-an-attempt-to-quash-abortion-pill-reversal/








    Trump’s gaslighting on COVID lockdowns is finally called out in Megyn Kelly interview

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/trumps-gaslighting-on-covid-lockdowns-is-finally-called-out-in-megyn-kelly-interview/

    Trump claims full credit for pro-life victories while continuing to attack heartbeat laws
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/trump-claims-full-credit-for-pro-life-victories-while-continuing-to-attack-heartbeat-laws/




    Ray Epps

    • 2 hr 4 min
    Are Women More Evil Than Men?

    Are Women More Evil Than Men?

    This week on A Podcast About Catholic Things, Eric (The Ambassador of Common Sense) and Dan (The Ambassador Of Nonsense) discuss a recent leaked video where women (mostly women) from the abortion industry discuss the barbaric aspects of abortion, openly and unapologetically, in a way that literally makes our stomachs church.  Would we feel the same way if these sorts of evil things were being spoken by men?  Is evil itself a more intrinsic part of men or women?  And once someone has gone to 'the dark side', are men or women more likely to give themselves over completely to evil?

    In current events, Volleyball in Nebraska.  Proud Boys leaders get sentences, as do pro-life rescuers.  The Philippines impose rice caps.  Hong Kong evacuated.  Pope Francis in Mongolia.  Russia has ICBMs ready and waiting.  India studying the sun.  Burning Man floods.  France bans vaping.  Japan embraces US Military.  Trump is liable… again.  Mexico decriminalizes abortion.  Chinese dinosaur bird discovered.  Berlin AB blesses gays.  McCarrick given a pass.  Schools busted for transitioning kids behind parents backs.  Wildfires over reported.  Gays advised not to travel in America.  Canadian café owner acquitted.  PornHub being sued.  DeSantis refuses federal money.  Josh Alexander wins.  Oklahoma hires perv for principal.  WHO and FDA prep for COVID.  AB gives communion to Muslim.

    In the land of nonsense, China's great path.  Mississippi alligator.  Bull gets traffic ticket.  Chicago reporter robbed while reporting crime.

    Trivia Question: How man coins did the woman have?

    Show Notes:

    China's great wall broken through - not by military forces, but by a couple of construction workers
    https://apnews.com/article/china-great-wall-destruction-6ca7b89e1c214ff7fb547471808fab2f

    Mississippi longest alligator caught has new record (You knew they were tracking that, right?)
    https://www.livescience.com/animals/alligators-crocodiles/800-pound-alligator-is-the-longest-ever-caught-in-mississippi

    The thing is, I can't find anything stating what the citable traffic violations were
    https://www.1011now.com/2023/08/30/norfolk-police-pull-over-man-with-bull-riding-shotgun/

    So, is this a "meta-crime"?
    https://apnews.com/article/chicago-news-crew-robbed-while-reporting-6bac099937b2435254d558792ede9b7d

     


    Pro-life rescuers immediately incarcerated following jury’s guilty verdict in DC FACE Act trial

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/episodes/pro-life-rescuers-immediately-incarcerated-following-jurys-guilty-verdict-in-dc-face-act-trial/

    Pro-life rescuer Lauren Handy seeks emergency release from jail after FACE Act conviction
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pro-life-rescuer-lauren-handy-seeks-emergency-release-from-jail-after-face-act-conviction/
    A federal jury convicted Handy and her four co-defendants of violating the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act along with a conspiracy against “rights” that the U.S. Supreme Court has not found in the Constitution. The judge ordered Handy and her co-defendants be immediately taken into custody while they await sentencing, citing their conviction of a violent crime.

    Judge in DC Face Act trial denies motion for pre-sentencing release of pro-lifer Lauren Handy
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/judge-in-dc-face-act-trial-denies-motion-for-pre-sentencing-release-of-pro-lifer-lauren-handy/
    'Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly has DENIED our Emergency Motion to release Lauren Handy from pre-sentencing detention. We have immediately filed an emergency appeal with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit. More to come,' the Thomas More Society posted on X, formerly Twitter, on Thursda

    Thomas More Society files emergency appeal of decision denying Lauren Handy’s release from jail
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/thomas-more-society-files-emergency-appeal-of-decision-denying-lauren-handys-release-from-jail/




    Joan Andrews Bell defends the necessity of pro-life rescues: ‘Inn

    • 2 hr 32 min
    Hawaii On Fire, Missing Children, And Covid Lockdowns Return

    Hawaii On Fire, Missing Children, And Covid Lockdowns Return

    This week on A Podcast About Catholic Things, Eric (The Ambassador of Common Sense) and Dan (The Ambassador Of Nonsense) discuss some of the theories (and some of the facts) being tossed concerning the Maui Wild Fires. As Hawaii burns to the ground, it looks more and more like the incompetence of government officials is at fault… but is there something more? What's happening there now? Why can't burn victims get help? Is there really a busload of school children that are missing? And why did Alex Jones say the COVID lockdowns are returning?

    In the news, Muslims burn down churches. Mad has pig's kidney for 32 days. US soldier flees to North Korea. Russia fails moon landing, India succeeds. Evergrande Group filing bankruptcy. WHO studies traditional medicine and urges people to invest in Afghanistan medicine. Synod updates. Ukrainian trans spokesperson. Pro-Lifer turns traitor. Cupich going to forbidden conference. Canadian fires are arson. Hannity is not pro-life. Pope Francis writing part 2 of his environmental encyclical. Transgender men can swim--against each other. Indiana still outlaws abortion. Massachusetts bishop bans gay.

    In the land of nonsense, two-headed snake. Dino races. Viral egg cracking videos.

    Trivia Question: who witnessed to the Ethiopians?

    SHOW NOTES:
    DAN'S NOTES:

    How will this snake hunt?
    https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2023/08/22/two-headed-western-hognose-snake/1341692735805/

    The stupidest stuff goes viral...
    https://news.sky.com/story/parents-warned-after-cracking-eggs-on-toddlers-heads-in-tiktok-trend-12945794

    T-Rex race in Washington state
    https://apnews.com/article/racing-trexes-washington-a498d41a8c9fa5cbb4c7bfb0d3c55f8c

     

     

     ERIC's NOTES:







    A Muslim mob storms a Christian area in Jaranwala, Punjab, Pakistan, burning a church, damaging two other churches, and demolishing the house of a man who they accused of desecrating the pages of a Quran. (AP)
    Surgeons from NYU Langone Health in the United States report the successful functioning of a genetically modified pig kidney in a human recipient for 32 days, a record in xenotransplantation. (AFP via The Japan Times)
    The Korean Central News Agency confirms that United States Army soldier Travis King has been detained for illegal entry, stating that King claimed "inhuman maltreatment and racial discrimination" within the U.S. Army and also that he is seeking refugee status in the country. (Reuters)
    Roscosmos spacecraft Luna 25 enters into a lunar orbit around the Moon as it prepares to make a soft landing on the lunar south pole in the coming days. (Reuters)

    The State Space Corporation "Roscosmos"[2] (Russian: Государственная корпорация по космической деятельности «Роскосмос»), commonly known simply as Roscosmos (Russian: Роскосмос), is a state corporation of the Russian Federation responsible for space flights, cosmonautics programs, and aerospace research.[3]
    Roscosmos spacecraft Luna 25 crashes into the moon after moving into an unpredictable orbit during the transition to a pre-landing orbit. (Reuters)
    Chandrayaan-3 makes a soft landing near the Moon's South Pole, marking India's first landing on the Moon and the first soft landing near the lunar South Pole. (CNN)


    Chinese property developer Evergrande Group files for chapter 15 bankruptcy protection in the United States as it works on a multi-billion dollar deal with creditors to restructure its debts. (BBC News)

    The China Evergrande Group is a Chinese property developer, and the second largest in China by sales.[3] It is incorporated in the Cayman Islands, a British Overseas Territory, and headquartered in the Houhai Financial Center in Nanshan District, Shenzhen, Guangdong Province, China.[4] It was founded in 1996 by Xu Jiayin. It sells apartments mostly to upper- and middle-income dwellers.[5] In 2018, it became the most valuable real estate company in the world,[6] but by 2021 it had collapsed financially

    • 1 hr 57 min
    A Review Of Philip K Dick's The Pre-persons

    A Review Of Philip K Dick's The Pre-persons

    This week on A Podcast About Catholic Things, Eric (The Ambassador of Common Sense) and Dan (The Ambassador Of Nonsense) discuss the classic PKD short story, The Pre-persons. The work is a well written example of what happens when the lines we draw between good andf evil are so arbitrary. What does a human being become a person… and when is it okay to kill that person.

    In current events, Obama might be gay. Taliban closes beauty salons. Government hearing on UFOs. They found Nero's. The earth is going through a boiling phase. India upset with China. Inflatable flies away and kills man and injurs child. Trump indicted… again. Fossils found in Peru. Germans hold requiem for glacier. Mayan Mass coming. Covid shots led to stillbirths. Biden outlaws lightbulbs.

    In the land of nonsense, bear found in spa. Fake bear in China. Slow woman runs slow.

    SHOW NOTES:

    That's bear-ly believable!
    https://apnews.com/article/iraq-dubai-escaped-bear-airplane-cargo-airport-0c58ebbac661e51fa6fed40b4db3e994

    More bear-ly believable antics
    https://apnews.com/article/bear-backyard-jacuzzi-pool-california-16549bf7609e1a9b6e2e3fc28a807cb7

    And sometimes people just don't believe it
    https://people.com/china-zoo-denies-bears-are-humans-in-disguise-7567574

    Usually sports, especially women's sports, isn't worth even thinking about...but what aren't we being told here?
    https://apnews.com/article/somalia-slow-runner-video-2bafeb6d93de898d9c3cb36070c285cc

    I only include this story to ask: What are "dummies"?
    https://news.sky.com/story/essex-police-investigate-reports-of-man-taking-dummies-from-babies-mouths-12936871

     





    Mississippi forces parents to watch ‘vaccine education video’ before requesting religious exemption

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/mississippi-forces-parents-to-watch-vaccine-education-video-before-requesting-religious-exemption/


    DeSantis rules out RFK Jr. as running mate, but is open to ‘siccing’ him on the FDA, CDC

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/desantis-rules-out-rfk-jr-as-running-mate-but-is-open-to-siccing-him-on-the-fda-cdc/


    Christians arrested for singing hymns during COVID lockdown win $300k lawsuit

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/christians-arrested-for-singing-hymns-during-covid-lockdown-win-300k-lawsuit/


    PETITION: Join LifeSiteNews in urging the US Supreme Court to end abortion once and for all

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/petition-join-lifesitenews-in-urging-the-us-supreme-court-to-end-abortion-once-and-for-all/


    German archdiocese celebrates ‘ecumenical requiem’ for melting glacier with female Protestant ‘pastor’

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/german-archdiocese-celebrates-ecumenical-requiem-for-melting-glacier-with-female-protestant-pastor/


    Alberta man denied euthanasia request after regretting gender mutilation surgery

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/alberta-man-denied-euthanasia-request-after-regretting-gender-mutilation-surgery/


    French bishop bans the Latin Mass at the shrine of Saint John Vianney, patron saint of priests

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/trfrench-bishop-bans-the-latin-mass-at-the-shrine-of-saint-john-vianney-patron-saint-of-priests/


    Vatican considering ‘Mayan rite’ of Mass after Mexican bishops overwhelmingly approve it

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/analysis/vatican-considering-mayan-rite-of-mass-after-mexican-bishops-overwhelmingly-approve-it/


    Increase in miscarriages, stillbirths directly linked to COVID shots, data show – health officials ‘should have known’

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/increase-in-miscarriages-stillbirths-directly-linked-to-covid-shots-data-show-health-officials-should-have-known/


    Pro-life leaders challenge DeSantis to openly support federal heartbeat abortion ban

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pro-life-leaders-challenge-desantis-to-openly-support-federal-heartbeat-abortion-ban/


    Elon Musk slams ESG as ‘communism rebranded,’ calls out BlackRock, Vanguard

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/e

    • 2 hr 6 min
    Love Thy Enemy… Even The Bishops

    Love Thy Enemy… Even The Bishops

    How Do We Treat Those Who Harm Our Loved Ones

    This week on A Podcast About Catholic Things, Eric (The Ambassador of Common Sense) and Dan (The Ambassador Of Nonsense) discuss the difficult commandment that Jesus gave us--love thy enemy, do good to those who hurt you. But what if someone's hurting your children? What if they're leading them to hell? The Gospel isn't so clear on this.

    In current events, Greece and Europe is hot. Wet market bans cats. Ecuador mayor killed. Texas Buoys. Nasa claiming climate change… and finding water vapors. More pilot whales beached. Biden to be impeached? Obama chef dead. Ice Cube anti vax. Sinead Oconor dies. Jesuit schools still vaxing. In-n-Out Burger bans masks. CCP chosen bishop is disgrace. Pro-Aborts body slam prolifers. United Church Of Christ now pro-abort. Pence supports abortion. Hunter Biden pleas not guilty. Pope Francis to go to Russia?

    In the land of nonsense, no more nude painting. Hemingway lookalikes. Jailbreak.

    Trivia Question: who wasn't an apostle?

    SHow Notes:






    Troubled Irish singer Sinéad O’Connor dies at age 56

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/troubled-irish-singer-sinead-oconnor-dies-at-age-56/


    Jesuit Santa Clara University and hundreds of other colleges still mandate COVID-19 shots

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/jesuit-santa-clara-university-and-hundreds-of-other-colleges-still-mandate-covid-19-jabs/


    Louisiana bans transgender mutilation of children, overriding Democrat governor’s veto

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/louisiana-bans-transgender-mutilation-of-minors-overriding-democrat-governors-veto/


    Maine’s Democrat governor signs bill legalizing abortion up to the moment of birth

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/maines-democrat-governor-signs-bill-legalizing-abortion-up-to-the-moment-of-birth/


    Oregon girls under 15 can now obtain abortions without parental consent if they fear ‘emotional abuse’

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/oregon-girls-under-15-can-now-obtain-abortions-without-parental-consent-if-they-fear-emotional-abuse/


    Radical abortion amendment officially to appear on Ohio ballot in November

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/radical-abortion-amendment-officially-to-appear-on-ohio-ballot-in-november/


    In-N-Out burger chain to ban employees in 5 states from wearing masks, memo reveals

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/in-n-out-burger-chain-to-ban-employees-in-5-states-from-wearing-masks-memo-reveals/


    Chinese Communist Party humiliates Pope Francis with Shanghai bishop appointment

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/chinese-communist-party-humiliates-pope-francis-with-shanghai-bishop-appointment/
    Cardinal Kung spent three decades in a Communist prison cell (1955-85) for refusing to bend the knee to the atheistic CCP and had been secretly named a cardinal by Pope St. John Paul II in 1979. He was exiled in 1987 and spent his remaining years in the U


    Abortion supporters body-slam, throw coffee on pro-life sidewalk counselors outside DC Planned Parenthood

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abortion-supporters-body-slam-throw-coffee-on-pro-life-sidewalk-counselors-outside-dc-planned-parenthood/


    Pope Francis hosts pro-abortion WHO director general in private Vatican meeting

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-francis-hosts-pro-abortion-who-director-general-in-private-vatican-meeting/


    United Church of Christ issues resolution declaring abortion is ‘healthcare’

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/united-church-of-christ-issues-resolution-declaring-abortion-is-healthcare/


    Teen jailed for burning illegally aborted baby’s body underscores how inhumanely the law treats the unborn

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/teen-jailed-for-burning-illegally-aborted-babys-body-underscores-how-inhumanely-the-law-treats-the-unborn/
    Another post-Roe abortion story is dominating the headlines, and it is easy to see why. Nineteen-year-old Celeste Burgess was recently sentenced to 90 days in prison after pleading guilty t

    • 2 hr 21 min
    Climate Change And COVID Oppression Tactics

    Climate Change And COVID Oppression Tactics

    They're Practically The Same

    This week on A Podcast About Catholic Things, Eric (The Ambassador of Common Sense) and Dan (The Ambassador Of Nonsense) discuss the stories of temperature highs being reported more and more in the news.  Are these temperature hikes real?  Why are the numbers inflated?  What's next to come, as the governments use the same tactics to reduce climate change that they used to reduce COVID spread.  It's the same thing, all over again.  While the pandemic measures were bad, this could get worse.

    In current events, FDA allows birth control without prescription.  Earthquake in Alaska.  Many whales beached.  WHO says avian flu is killing cats.  Soldier flees to North Korea.  Michigan AG going after old timers.  Kenya cult starves members.  Indians send lander to moon.  Japan fails launch.  Tucker Carlson interviews Andrew Tate.  Colleges passing out B plan.  Sound of Freedom dominates.  Maine approves sex hormones for kids.  Pope Francis allows heretical women to vote in Synod.  Biden sending troops to Europe.  Bishop is smudged.  Kentucky transgender restrictions reinstated.  Biden can continue to collude with big tech.  Pope Francis accepts state appointed bishops.  Straights pretend to be gay.

    In the land of nonsense, mammals were hunting dinosaurs.  Girl divorces ghost.  Hong Kong shames smokers.  No more little libraries.

    Trivia Question: How many sons did Jacob have?

    SHOW NOTES:

    Even with dinos around, mammals are still at the top of the food chain
    https://apnews.com/article/mammals-eating-dinosaurs-cretaceous-af0ccd6f491e01ec779753b03568c61c


    Singer divorces ghost
    https://news.sky.com/story/singer-divorces-devilishly-handsome-ghost-of-a-victorian-soldier-after-less-than-a-year-12922465


    Hong Kong minister of health advises "smoke shaming"
    https://news.sky.com/story/hong-kongers-urged-to-stare-at-smokers-in-a-disapproving-way-to-help-create-a-tobacco-free-city-12921254


    Little libraries are not to be disguised as speed cameras
    https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/07/montgomery-co-forces-the-removal-of-a-little-library-that-resembles-a-speed-camera/






    In interview with Tucker Carlson, Andrew Tate betrays his own message of ‘masculine virtue’

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/in-interview-with-tucker-carlson-andrew-tate-betrays-his-own-message-of-masculine-virtue/


    Dozens of American universities are installing Plan B vending machines on campus

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/analysis/dozens-of-american-universities-are-installing-plan-b-vending-machines-on-campus/


    Biden FDA approves first over-the-counter birth control pill with no age limit

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/biden-fda-approves-first-over-the-counter-birth-control-pill-with-no-age-limit/


    Sound of Freedom defies naysayers with 5 million tickets sold, $50 million in receipts

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/sound-of-freedom-defies-naysayers-with-5-million-tickets-sold-50-million-in-receipts/

    Jim Caviezel ‘not scared in the least bit’ to speak the truth about US gov’t involvement in trafficking
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/jim-caviezel-not-scared-in-the-least-bit-to-speak-the-truth-about-us-govt-involvement-in-trafficking/




    Maine’s pro-LGBT governor signs law allowing cross-sex hormones for minors without parental consent

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/maines-pro-lgbt-governor-signs-law-allowing-cross-sex-hormones-for-minors-without-parental-consent/


    House Republicans defund service member abortions, ‘sex changes’ in newly passed defense bill

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/house-republicans-defund-service-member-abortions-sex-changes-in-newly-passed-defense-bill/


    Federal court sides with Catholic school that fired counselor in same-sex union

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/federal-court-sides-with-catholic-school-that-fired-counselor-in-same-sex-union/


    Pope Francis selects woman serving at heterodox church, ‘seminary’ as Synod voting delegat

    • 2 hr 23 min

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