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What does it take to survive and thrive in Africa?
This and other questions are answered weekly as we dive into the worlds of dynamic doers and thinkers who are changing the future of the continent. Join Sanja Gohre in conversation with a wide range of people as they share their journeys of triumphs and tribulations, tips and tricks, analysis and insight, and most of all their inspiration on how and why they survive and thrive. 
For the back story of all guests, transcripts and show notes, visit www.africanoptimist.co.za, where you can also sign up for the AfricanOptimist newsletter.

The AfricanOptimist podcast is proudly hosted by Afripods, the world's Nr 1 podcast for African stories.

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What does it take to survive and thrive in Africa?
This and other questions are answered weekly as we dive into the worlds of dynamic doers and thinkers who are changing the future of the continent. Join Sanja Gohre in conversation with a wide range of people as they share their journeys of triumphs and tribulations, tips and tricks, analysis and insight, and most of all their inspiration on how and why they survive and thrive. 
For the back story of all guests, transcripts and show notes, visit www.africanoptimist.co.za, where you can also sign up for the AfricanOptimist newsletter.

The AfricanOptimist podcast is proudly hosted by Afripods, the world's Nr 1 podcast for African stories.

    #9 Joséphine Katumba - The rise (and importance) of the Intrapreneur, jumping on rocket ships without a reserved seat and 'weighing and paying' as a retail model of the future

    #9 Joséphine Katumba - The rise (and importance) of the Intrapreneur, jumping on rocket ships without a reserved seat and 'weighing and paying' as a retail model of the future

    AfricanOptimist Episode #9 Joséphine Katumba - The rise (and importance) of the Intrapreneur, jumping on rocket ships without a reserved seat and 'weighing and paying' as a retail model of the future 
    In this episode, you will learn a couple of things. Firstly, you will get a behind the scenes look at how you take an idea (let's face it, haven't we all had them - 'One day I will open…' 'Some day I will sell…') and turn it into reality. And secondly, how you can do this not only as an entrepreneur, but as an intrapreneur within an organisation. Just as exciting, at much less personal risk.
    Our guest Joséphine Katumba shares how, while growing her own small business, she was recruited by celebrity entrepreneur himself, Miles Kubheka (from 'Vuyo' fame and founder of the Wakanda Food Accelerator) to help create Gcwalisa, an exciting 'weigh and pay' mini retail model first piloted in Johannesburg's Alexandra township (developed in 1912 as the only place where Africans could buy freehold land, and now adjacent to Sandton (one of the richest suburbs of Johannesburg).
    Joséphine takes us on the two-year journey of growing Gcwalisa into a model pilot mini retailer that is now on the brink of scaling up and expanding its horizons. With her signature calm voice and in matter-of-fact detail, we get a glimpse of the iteration and patience required to birth a brand new baby, that lets you buy food for the money you have in your pocket or in exactly the quantities you need.
    Joséphine is the picture of Zen, and could grow anything she puts her mind to. Join me in finding out how she does it. And why.

    For more information on Joséphine Katumba, visit her page on the AfricanOptimist website, where you can find her bio, show notes and episode transcript.
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    TIME STAMPS
    00:00 Embracing the Unknown: Cheryl Sandberg's Google Analogy
    00:41 Introducing the African Optimist Podcast
    00:54 The Journey of an Intrapreneur: Meeting Joséphine Katumba
    01:07 Josephine's Entrepreneurial Spirit Meets Miles Kubheka
    12:56 Designing and Implementing the Gcwalisa Model
    18:03 Community Feedback and Adjusting the Offering
    21:31 Understanding Gcwalisa's Impact and Philosophy
    28:24 Exploring the Poverty Tax and Packaging Solutions
    28:47 Customer Journey and Packaging Innovations at Gcwalisa
    29:48 Shifting Consumer Behaviour and Environmental Impact
    31:19 Understanding Gcwalisa's Customer Demographics
    33:57 Real-life Customer Stories: Impact and Gratitude
    40:50 The Business Model and Scaling Up
    41:21 The Importance of Patience in Business Growth
    43:57 Facing Competition and Maintaining Originality
    46:51 Challenges and Learnings
    49:55 From Entrepreneur to Intrapreneur: A Personal Journey
    55:37 Closing Remarks and Resources

    • 56 min
    #8 Adam Welz - why 'climate change' should be renamed 'climate breakdown', how humans have disrupted 11,000 years of relative stability, how nature is reacting to this and why we should care

    #8 Adam Welz - why 'climate change' should be renamed 'climate breakdown', how humans have disrupted 11,000 years of relative stability, how nature is reacting to this and why we should care

    Introducing naturalist David Attenborough's successor...

    In this episode, ecologist Adam Welz gives us a peak into the writing of his first book The End of Eden and his intentions as well as his difficulties in writing it. He explains why he chose to focus on wild species as the characters of the bigger climate change story, and how he told small stories within a bigger context, and supported by scientific research, to paint the grim picture of a planet breaking down. 
    We delve into why he sees it as important to reframe the 'limp' phrase 'climate change' and to understand the many linked effects global warming has on all the wild species around us.
    Adam's book and this interview helped me look past the usual clichés that are splashed across the mass media pages, and see a different world, with different eyes, and a much better understanding of how to make sense of the isolated shifts that are happening in nature. Shifts that are small, but taken as a networked whole, create a looming terrifying instability and 'age of uncertainty' befalling our world. 
    I knew Adam over 30 years ago, but that is not why I am encouraging you to read his book. As a communicator and writer myself, I understand how hard his job was and how magnificently he has done it. Enjoy this conversation, but the meat is in the book.

    For more information on Adam Welz, visit his page on the AfricanOptimist website, where you can find his bio, show notes and episode transcript.
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    Time Stamps 
    00:00 Into Quote Adam Welz
    00:54 Podcast intro
    02:51 Adam Welz gives an overview of his first book 'The End of Eden'
    05:40 Why Adam focuses on wild species and not humans to tell the story of climate change
    07:33 Bridging the gap between micro stories of wild species and a greater context of their situation
    08:48 'I want you to try and understand what it's like to be a non-human.'
    10:16 Adam as naturalist filmmaker David Attenborough's successor
    11:29 Why the intro of the book is based in new York City
    12:50 You can see the effects of climate change all around you, if you just look, even in big cities
    15:57 The lessons we can learn from surviving species
    18:15 What we need to survive in this Age of Uncertainty 
    20:04 Stability of nature in the past 11.000 years
    22:49 Climate breakdown as a more accurate description than climate change
    24:28 The role of cognitive linguistics framing 'climate change' in a particular way in our minds
    29:38 The 200,000 - 300,000 years: Earth's Eden
    31:34 How South Africa saved homo sapiens from extinction
    31:34 How Adam crafted stories that elicit empathy for wild species in the reader
    40:58 How writing the book affected Adam personally
    41:40 Adam's 'oh shit' moment regarding climate breakdown
    42:57 The effect of seeing Australia's 2019/2020 bushfires personally
    45:30 The isolation felt by scientists who are constantly exposed to climate change data
    47:33 New opportunities present themselves as we all have to move away from fossil fuels
    50:09 Earth-changing events do happen - think of Apartheid and the Dissolution of the Soviet Union, and the ubiquity of cell phones within a very short period of time
    53:40 Before you come up with solutions, you have to understand.
    55:45 'You actually have got to be quite careful where you plant trees. They're not all just a great thing everywhere - you have to plant the right trees in the right places.
    57:10 The response to the book
    58:39 Adam's next book

    • 59 min
    #7 Sithuli Mbeje - on mobile abattoirs, bringing processing closer to home and doing what needs to be done

    #7 Sithuli Mbeje - on mobile abattoirs, bringing processing closer to home and doing what needs to be done

    In Episode 1, disruptive thinker and author Efosa Ojomo highlighted that the potential for prosperity in Africa lies in finding solutions to persistent problems and in doing so, creating new markets.
    In this episode, we shine a light on Sithuli Mbeje's journey to developing a mobile abattoir - his response to the problems faced by livestock farmers across Africa when they want to convert their cows to meat. In graphic details he outlines the different steps involved in this process, both in the large industrial abattoirs, as well as his much smaller and compact roving mobile unit.
    In our conversation he speaks about what gave him the idea for a mobile abattoir, how it fits into his philosophy on food waste and food security and how it is still possible to create value even if you do not follow a linear growth model. He highlights how mobile abattoirs can also serve an important role during outbreaks in foot and mouth disease, a recurring problem across many countries in Africa, as well as in conservation projects that rely on collaborative efforts between farmers and conservation agencies.
    He speaks of his drive to combine knowledge gained from years in the food processing and retail space with his understanding of food practices back home in rural KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa, to create new food processes and systems to ensure a more sustainable meat supply chain across Africa.

    For more information on Sithuli Mbeje, visit his page on the AfricanOptimist website, where you can find his bio, show notes and episode transcript.
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    • 47 min
    #6 Erica de Greef - on Vogue Business' accolade as one of 100 global fashion 'disruptors', using African fashion as a decolonial tool, re-imagining western 1960s dresses and Africa's 'folded' fashion

    #6 Erica de Greef - on Vogue Business' accolade as one of 100 global fashion 'disruptors', using African fashion as a decolonial tool, re-imagining western 1960s dresses and Africa's 'folded' fashion

    In 2023, Vogue Business named Erica de Greef and African Fashion Research Institute (AFRI) co-founder Lesiba Mabitsela as part of a group of 100 'next-gen entrepreneurs and agitators' in the global fashion world, who are overhauling the current system and designing a different future. 
    In this episode, we unpack why Vogue gave them that accolade, how Erica sees fashion as a decolonising tool, what different stories need to be told and how a different approach to fashion can tell those, what to do with White clothes collections buried inside South African and other museums, and how a single archived dress can be re-imagined to fill the gaps in Africa's fashion history.
    It is only as recent as 2016 that 'Africa' and 'Fashion' were used together in the same sentence, and Erica very evocatively explains why. She also explains why the term 'slow fashion' might not be the most suitable, or chosen, term for fashion in Africa.
    It is only in the last twenty years that South Africa started to develop its own local fashion brands, and in this episode Erica reveals the part she played in that development. 
    For those wishing to understand the past erasure of African fashion and its relegation to ethnographic museums and descriptions - and the work being done to change that - this episode is for you.

    For more information on Erica de Greef, visit her page on the AfricanOptimist website, where you can find her bio, show notes and episode transcript.
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    • 1 hr 8 min
    #5 Hamza Chaham - what it takes to get AI powered tools into the hands of smallholder farmers

    #5 Hamza Chaham - what it takes to get AI powered tools into the hands of smallholder farmers

    In this episode, we could have focused on the tech side of agriculture with Moroccan agripreneur Hamza Chaham, because it is digital technology that is really turning agriculture into an exciting scientifically based business. And his company, SOWIT, is using AI powered tools like sensors and probes, trackers and drones, in their work with farmers, government and food producers to successfully help optimize yields.
    For Hamza, however, this is not where the hope for food security lies.
    Agritech involves powerful tools, but it is the farmer who ultimately needs to use them. And given that the majority of smallholder farmers grow their crops on a mere 12% of the worlds farmland, yet feed 80% of people in Asia and sub-Saharan Africa, it is with these smallholder farmers, where tech can have the biggest impact in the future.
    But how to get this tech into the hands of farmers, who often are not digitally savvy and rely on traditional methods to grow their food?
    That is the focus of today's insightful conversation with Hamza as he shares his journey to understanding that the farmer, is at the centre of the push for innovation and food security, not technology.

    For more information on Hamza Chaham, visit his AfricanOptimist guest page, where you can find his bio, show notes and episode transcript.
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    • 1 hr 1 min
    #4 GG Alcock - how the informal economy can disrupt the formal economy, how humans are not dots and slashes and how we are incentivised to be successful not brave

    #4 GG Alcock - how the informal economy can disrupt the formal economy, how humans are not dots and slashes and how we are incentivised to be successful not brave

    South African GG Alcock has made it his life's mission to help people understand how informal economies work and to relieve you of the prejudices and stereotypes you may harbour about this sector.
    As somebody who has a foot each in the informal and the formal economy, and because of his unique upbringing and 'first-person' understanding of Zulu culture in South Africa, he is in a unique position to be a messenger on both, to both sides.
    The conversation covers a wide range of topics, and includes his thoughts on the misunderstood stigma of South Africa being the most unequal country in the world, what the biggest import - hair extensions! - tells us about the SA economy, why families from other countries seem to dominate the spaza (small grocery store) sector, and how rich township business owners would rather go cashless and pay tax, than bear the risk of storing and carrying millions of rands, in cash.

    Visit GG's AfricanOptimist guest page for his bio, show notes, transcripts and more or africanoptimist.co.za to sign up for the AO newsletter.

    • 1 hr 11 min

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