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Join Animal Law professor and longtime activist Mariann Sullivan as she unpacks the latest updates, cases, and news from the burgeoning world of animal law. Mariann will be joined by the leaders in the field, and will offer her own insightful (and sometimes biting) commentary. 912842

Animal Law Mariann Sullivan, Law Professor, Pundit, Vegan

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    • 4.7 • 81 Ratings

Join Animal Law professor and longtime activist Mariann Sullivan as she unpacks the latest updates, cases, and news from the burgeoning world of animal law. Mariann will be joined by the leaders in the field, and will offer her own insightful (and sometimes biting) commentary. 912842

    Animal Law Podcast #71: A Case of Bird Flu

    Animal Law Podcast #71: A Case of Bird Flu

    On this episode of the Animal Law Podcast, I speak with Laura Fox and Daniel Wiener about The Humane Society of the United States v. United States Department of Agriculture, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, Veterinary Services, in which animal advocacy groups are taking on the USDA's plans for what to do to the chickens who, trapped in factory farms, inevitably come down with bird flu, endangering humans as well as birds with a potential pandemic. After the USDA virtually ignored the suggestion that the birds should be kept in less crowded and less brutal surroundings as a way to possibly avoid such an outbreak, the agency instead decided the birds' ventilation should be shut off so they can slowly die a horrible death. Oh, and the "farmers" will be compensated by taxpayers for their losses. The horrors visited upon animals seem to keep getting worse, but at least a recent standing decision in US District Court in California will let the case proceed and the courts will have an opportunity to decide whether they have finally just gone too far.



    Laura Fox joined the Humane Society of the United States' Animal Protection Law department in 2015 as an attorney focusing on issues related to puppy mills, and now is the Staff Attorney for Farm Animal Protection working on efforts to reduce extreme confinement practices and challenging their environmental impacts. She is also an Adjunct Professor of Animal Law at George Mason's Scalia Law School. Daniel Wiener is an associate in the Litigation practice of Shearman and Sterling.



    View the full episode with resources here: https://www.ourhenhouse.org/2021/04/alp71/ ‎



    The Animal Law Podcast is released by the nonprofit organization, Our Hen House. Share your thoughts with us on social media! Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (@ourhenhouse).

    • 1 hr 16 min
    Animal Law Podcast #70: The Case of the "Teachable Moments"

    Animal Law Podcast #70: The Case of the "Teachable Moments"

    On this episode of the Animal Law Podcast, I speak with Vanessa Shakib of Advancing Law for Animals about Missouri Alliance for Animal Legislation and Stop Animal Exploitation Now! ("SAEN") v USDA, in which the plaintiffs sought to vacate two rules promulgated by USDA's Animal Care division without notice to the public or an opportunity to comment, as required by the Administrative Procedure Act. These rules concerned the implementation of two new enforcement policies, the Orwellian-entitled, "Teachable Moments Rule" and "Self-Reporting Rule," that drastically limited the ability of concerned members of the public and others to ascertain the true violation history regarding the treatment of animals at licensed facilities, including both puppy mills and laboratories. She'll also tell us about the recent settlement that resolved the lawsuit and how members of the public can best make use the information now available on the USDA website.



    We also speak briefly about a recently filed case, also on behalf of SAEN, against the University of California regarding the stark contrast between the University's claims regarding how animals are kept in their laboratories and the evidence the plaintiff has  gathered revealing a much darker picture. 



    Vanessa Shakib co-founded and co-directs Advancing Law for Animals, a non-profit law firm for our non-human friends that focuses on animal law, government accountability, and illegal business practices. There, she develops impact litigation to further the interests of animals exploited in research and industrial food production. Vanessa regularly presents talks as an invited expert in animal law both nationally and abroad.



    Prior to animal law, Vanessa specialized in illegal taxation, consumer protection, and inverse condemnation, among other practice areas. Her track record in government oversight informs her work at Advancing Law for Animals, where she has successfully challenged cruel and illegally-promulgated regulations at the federal level, and lack of animal-welfare enforcement at the local level. Vanessa continues to consult on a variety of legal matters through her private practice, Shakib Law, PC.



    View the full episode with resources here: https://www.ourhenhouse.org/2021/03/alp70/



    The Animal Law Podcast is released by the nonprofit organization, Our Hen House. Share your thoughts with us on social media! Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (@ourhenhouse).

    • 51 min
    Animal Law Podcast #69: The Case of the SPCA and the Puppy Mill

    Animal Law Podcast #69: The Case of the SPCA and the Puppy Mill

    On this episode of the Animal Law Podcast, I speak with Christopher Berry, a managing attorney in the Animal Legal Defense Fund’s Litigation Program, where he oversees strategic impact litigation to protect the lives of and advance the interests of animals. Christopher and I speak about Caru SPCA v Anthony, in which a California backyard breeder/puppy mill was shut down by the Superior Court of California for Solano County under various sections of the Vallejo California Municipal Code, along with a California state law entitled the Pet Breeders Warranty Act (Health & Safety Code Sections 122045 - 122315).



    In spite of complaints made for years to local authorities, this sub-standard breeding facility for Carolina Dogs had been permitted to continue doing business in spite of the poor treatment of the dogs. What changed? The Caru SPCA appeared on the scene with the mission of  preventing "cruelty to animals by use of all legal means, by working cooperatively with law enforcement and humane agencies, by promoting the enforcement of animal protection laws, and by educating others about the laws that protect animals and humane standards of care for animals." You will want to hear about how this organization came into being, the role of the Animal Legal Defense Fund in aiding in the creation of this independent entity with statewide jurisdiction, and what an SPCA can do that other individuals and organizations are unable to do to protect animals under California law. This could be a game-changing development for animals.



    Christopher Berry is a managing attorney for the Animal Legal Defense Fund’s litigation program where he oversees and litigates strategic impact cases involving a broad range of animal protection issues. In the wake of government acquiescence of illegal activity, he has brought private enforcement actions in civil court to stop illegal puppy laundering, fur farming of a threatened species, and animal hoarding. He also leverages litigation against the government itself, thereby catalyzing revision of the USDA's rubberstamp policy for Animal Welfare Act licenses, the USDA's blackout of records generated under the Animal Welfare Act, and North Carolina's approval of gas chambers for routine euthanasia at animal shelters.



    View the full episode with resources here: https://www.ourhenhouse.org/2021/02/alp69/



    The Animal Law Podcast is released by the nonprofit organization, Our Hen House. Share your thoughts with us on social media! Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (@ourhenhouse).

    • 54 min
    Animal Law Podcast #68: The Case of the Tiger King's Tigers

    Animal Law Podcast #68: The Case of the Tiger King's Tigers

    On this episode of the Animal Law Podcast, I am so pleased to welcome Brittany Peet, Deputy General Counsel for Captive Animal Law Enforcement for the PETA Foundation. We follow up on her appearance on Episode 42 when she told us all about PETA's case against notorious roadside zoo and big cat abuser Tim Stark of Indiana's "Wildlife in Need." Little did we know at the time that Stark would be one of the players in the Tiger King, the wildly popular Netflix series that revealed the dark underbelly of the tiger biz in the US, such as a murder for hire plot and numerous violations of the Endangered Species Act, ranging from records violations all the way to killing 5 tigers. Now, Brittany is here to report on the ongoing struggle on the legal front to get the Tiger King's tigers out of captivity and into sanctuaries, which has resulted in substantial progress in improving the government's standards regarding the treatment of tigers and other endangered animals in captivity.



    Brittany Peet is the Deputy General Counsel for Captive Animal Law Enforcement for the PETA Foundation, and works on behalf of animals who are held captive in roadside zoos, traveling shows, and the film and television industries through legal and regulatory actions and public advocacy campaigns. She also negotiates and coordinates wild and exotic animal rescues for PETA, and has overseen the rescues of more than 400 chinchillas, 73 bears, 75 big cats, 13 chimpanzees, and two baboons.



    View the full episode with resources here: https://www.ourhenhouse.org/2021/01/alp68/



    The Animal Law Podcast is released by the nonprofit organization, Our Hen House. Share your thoughts with us on social media! Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (@ourhenhouse).

    • 54 min
    Animal Law Podcast #67: The Case of the Intertwined Suffering of Pigs and People

    Animal Law Podcast #67: The Case of the Intertwined Suffering of Pigs and People

    On this episode of the Animal Law Podcast, host Mariann Sullivan welcomes Laura Fox, Staff Attorney for Farm Animal Protection at The Humane Society of the United States, to talk about the 4th Circuit's decision in McKiver v Murphy Brown, which has created quite a stir in the animal law world. It is a story which we have all heard before -- neighbors of pig factory farms in North Carolina whose homes, some of which have been in their families for generations, have been rendered close to uninhabitable by the stench and degradation of the environment caused by nearby pig factory farms. The reason that this case stands out in particular for animal advocates is the extraordinary concurrence by Judge James Harvie Wilkinson III, which not only finds merit in the plaintiffs' arguments, but sympathizes with the animals whose misery and confinement are not only horrific, but are part and parcel of the harms created by these facilities. You are not going to want to miss this episode.



    View the full episode with resources here: https://www.ourhenhouse.org/2020/12/alp67/



    The Animal Law Podcast is released by the nonprofit organization, Our Hen House. Share your thoughts with us on social media! Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (@ourhenhouse).

    • 59 min
    Animal Law Podcast #66: The Case of the California Sales Bans

    Animal Law Podcast #66: The Case of the California Sales Bans

    On this episode of the Animal Law Podcast, host Mariann Sullivan welcomes back Rebecca Cary of the Humane Society of the United States to speak about the recent decision from the Ninth Circuit in North American Meat Institute v Becerra, in which the court upheld Proposition 12 in the face of arguments by the plaintiff that it violates the Dormant Commerce Clause.



    Proposition 12 is, of course, the California ballot initiative that, among other things, imposed a sales ban in California on products that don't comply with certain California laws regarding the treatment of certain farmed animals. As they discuss on this episode, sales bans are a vital tool in protecting states' ability to make their laws regarding the treatment of animals effective, and they are, as a result, vehemently opposed by animal use industries. This is an important case, indeed.



    Rebecca Cary is a Senior Staff Attorney at The Humane Society of the United States, where she has worked since 2010 in the Animal Protection Litigation section. The bulk of her work focuses on farm animals and constitutional defense litigation. She graduated from Northeastern University School of Law in 2009, where she successfully petitioned the school to include an animal law class in its curriculum.



    View the full episode with resources here: https://www.ourhenhouse.org/2020/11/alp66/



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    • 52 min

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81 Ratings

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This podcast offers such an engaging and accessible way to dive into so many of the different branches of animal law and animal welfare issues- highly recommend! Great tone of humor also woven into these intense issues

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