Batting 1,000 with Dale Vermillion

Dale Vermillion

Join award-winning sales expert Dale Vermillion every month for high-impact conversations with real estate's heaviest hitters. This podcast is for every originator, processor, and real estate agent looking to gain an upper hand in their business. From sales strategy to business development to personal branding, listeners will learn how to remain at the top of their field by honing their craft with proven best practices developed by the very best.

  1. What separates top producers from everyone else with Cindy Ertman

    APR 16

    What separates top producers from everyone else with Cindy Ertman

    Most loan officers are already doing the right things. They're just not building systems around them. Cindy Ertman breaks down how she grew a personal production business to over $200 million — and what it actually takes to build a referral-driven mortgage business that scales without burning out. Named one of Mortgage Executive Magazine's Top 100 Most Influential Mortgage Executives five years in a row and a top 100 loan originator for over a decade, Cindy is the CEO of The Defining Difference®, a leading coaching and training company for mortgage professionals. She has shared the stage with Tony Robbins, Darren Hardy, Magic Johnson, and former President George Bush. Her approach is built on one conviction she discovered early in her career: the mortgage industry is not a mortgage business — it's a relationship business. Everything she teaches flows from that foundation, from how to communicate through every loan milestone to how to pursue a realtor partner for two years without hearing a single word back. In this Batting 1,000 conversation, Dale Vermillion and Cindy break down what separates consistent top producers from everyone else — and why the gap has almost nothing to do with talent. They cover: ‣ Why top producers aren't more talented — they just have better systems ‣ The 10-point milestone communication plan that wins realtor loyalty ‣ How to build and work multiple databases to generate business from every corner of your network ‣ The weekly time-blocking and call routines behind $200M in personal production ‣ The two-year pursuit story that landed a $1.4M loan and a career-defining referral partner ‣ How to make bold choices every day — and stop being tied to the outcome If your business isn't where you want it to be, Cindy's message is simple: you're not in enough action. This episode gives you a clear, proven framework for changing that. Schedule a complimentary coaching call with Cindy's team → cindyertman.com or thedefiningdifference.com

    55 min
  2. How to do $100M without missing out on life with Kara Whitman (8x Scotsman Guide Top 40)

    JAN 20

    How to do $100M without missing out on life with Kara Whitman (8x Scotsman Guide Top 40)

    A new year is the perfect time to rethink what “success” actually looks like. Kara Whitman shows how top producers can scale production past $100M without sacrificing their family, their energy, or their enjoyment of the business. A multi-year Scotsman Guide Top 40 originator and one of the highest-producing consumer-direct loan officers in the country, Kara has built a career defined by sustained performance, not short-term wins. With over a decade in the business and years leading production at a national lender, she is known for her ability to combine volume, service, and life balance at the highest level. Her approach centers on mastering the fundamentals, simplifying complex decisions for borrowers, and creating a client experience that is memorable, consultative, and built on trust. In this Batting 1,000 conversation, Dale Vermillion and Kara break down what truly separates elite loan officers from the rest—and why “rate” is rarely the deciding factor. They cover: ‣ Why consistency is the real secret behind sustained top performance ‣ How to take control of the rate conversation and shift it to value ‣ The role of relationships in building a scalable, referral-driven business ‣ Practical strategies for managing high volume without sacrificing service ‣ How to win at work while still winning at home If you’re looking to produce more, convert better, and build a business that lasts, this episode offers a clear, experience-tested framework from one of the industry’s most accomplished performers.

    40 min
  3. How to prospect on social media with Michelle Berman-Mikel

    12/15/2025

    How to prospect on social media with Michelle Berman-Mikel

    Social media doesn’t have to be about posting more or going viral. Michelle Berman-Mikel explains how mortgage and real estate professionals can use social media to prospect, build relationships, and generate consistent business. A nationally recognized keynote speaker and author of The Black Line, Michelle is the founder of Berman Media PD. As the creator of Beyond The Method™, she helps mortgage and real estate professionals turn social media into a true prospecting engine by focusing on leverage and utility rather than vanity metrics. Her work centers on the psychology behind connection, teaching practical systems for building credibility, deepening relationships, and generating business online without gimmicks or trend chasing. In this Batting 1,000 conversation, Dale Vermillion and Michelle break down what actually works on social media today and why most professionals approach it the wrong way. They cover: ‣ Lessons learned swimming the mile as a Division I athlete and how that discipline translates to business ‣ The story behind her book, The Black Line ‣ The most common social media mistakes mortgage and real estate professionals make ‣ Why leverage matters more than virality when it comes to online prospecting ‣ Practical tools for converting conversations into real business If social media feels like something you should be doing but have never seen results from, this episode provides a clear and practical framework for making it work. Save 20 percent on Michelle’s program, including her Drivers and Levers tool → https://michelle-berman.mykajabi.com/offers/n67Bi93J/checkout?coupon_code=BTM20 Or schedule a free 30 minute strategy call → https://calendly.com/bermanmedia/strategycall Buy your copy of The Black Line by Michelle Berman-Mikel → https://a.co/d/dTQxMcn

    1h 12m
  4. The Power of Partnerships with Owen Lee, Vice Chair of the MBA

    09/29/2025

    The Power of Partnerships with Owen Lee, Vice Chair of the MBA

    Owen Lee has spent nearly three decades shaping the mortgage industry. Owen is the CEO of Success Mortgage Partners, Vice Chair of the Mortgage Bankers Association, and a relentless advocate for lenders and borrowers alike. And in this episode, he joins Dale to unpack what’s next for lending—including leadership, technology, and legislation. From building a billion-dollar company to fighting for industry-wide reforms, Owen shares the principles that have guided his success—and how they can help you thrive amid rapid change. He explains why honesty is the foundation of strong leadership, how to create partnerships that elevate both sides, and why technology must enhance human relationships, not replace them. They also dig into the biggest forces reshaping the industry, from AI and automation to looming regulatory shifts, and the wins MBA has delivered on Capitol Hill that every mortgage professional should know. In this episode, Dale and Owen dive into: ‣ Why truth-telling is the cornerstone of effective leadership ‣ How to build partnerships that drive exponential growth ‣ What it takes to balance technology with trust in a digital age ‣ The biggest legislative wins (and looming battles) facing lenders ‣ Why involvement — not passivity — is the key to shaping the industry’s future If you’re serious about leading well, scaling sustainably, and staying ahead of what’s coming next, this is a conversation you can’t afford to miss.

    49 min
  5. What top agents really want from lenders with Michael Tomlin

    05/05/2025

    What top agents really want from lenders with Michael Tomlin

    In real estate, relationships aren’t just a bonus—they’re the foundation. Few understand that better than Michael Tomlin, one of the top 1.5% of agents in the country and a top 5% Coldwell Banker producer globally four years running. Based on Florida’s Emerald Coast, Michael has built a thriving real estate business on one principle: relationships over transactions. In this episode, Dale and Michael unpack: ✅ How the NAR settlement is actually playing out ✅ What agents want from lenders (beyond rates) ✅ The #1 deal killer—and how to avoid it ✅ Why niche products and problem-solving matter ✅ How faith and family fuel Michael’s success Whether you're in lending, real estate, or both, this conversation is a masterclass in how to build trust, deliver value, and stay ahead in a changing market. #RealEstate #MortgageLending #LoanOfficers #NARSettlement #MichaelTomlin #DaleVermillion #Batting1000 About Michael TomlinMichael Tomlin is a top-performing real estate professional on Florida’s Emerald Coast, ranked among the top 1.5% of agents nationwide by America’s Best in both 2023 and 2024. He has earned Coldwell Banker’s International President’s Circle Award for four consecutive years—an honor reserved for the top 5% of agents globally. Known for his “relationships over transactions” approach, Michael has built a reputation for integrity, dedication, and deep local expertise. He specializes in condos, single-family homes, first-time buyers, and new construction. When he’s not helping clients navigate the real estate market, Michael enjoys life as a devoted husband and father of four. Connect with MichaelInstagram → instagram.com/mrmichaeltomlin Facebook → facebook.com/michaeltomlinrealestate LinkedIn → linkedin.com/in/michael-tomlin-9b183b112 YouTube → youtube.com/c/itsmichaeltomlin About Dale VermillionDale Vermillion, an industry icon, has trained over 1,000,000 lending professionals and worked with more than 600 organizations. He is a three-time HousingWire Vanguard, a member of the 2022 Global Mortgage 100, and the author of Navigating the Mortgage Maze. Dale is also the founder of Mortgage Professionals Providing Hope. Connect with DaleLinkedIn → linkedin.com/in/dalevermillion YouTube → youtube.com/@DaleVermillion Facebook → facebook.com/dalevermillionofficial X → x.com/dalevermillion Website → dalevermillion.com Email → listen@dalevermillion.com About Batting 1,000Batting 1,000 with Dale Vermillion is a production of Mortgage Champions. The show is produced and edited by Jake Vermillion. Music by Envato Elements.

    44 min
  6. What top lenders are doing differently in today’s market with Peter Benjamin

    03/10/2025

    What top lenders are doing differently in today’s market with Peter Benjamin

    In an industry where profitability and production often take center stage, credit unions have a unique edge: a service-first mindset that puts members ahead of margins. No one understands this better than Peter Benjamin, President of ACUMA and a seasoned leader in the lending industry. A Certified Mortgage Banker and Six Sigma Black Belt, Peter has spent nearly two decades helping credit unions navigate the complexities of mortgage lending while staying true to their mission. In this episode, Peter and Dale dive into: ‣ Why credit unions are uniquely positioned to thrive in today’s market ‣ The key habits of top-performing lenders that set them apart ‣ The “S-word” credit unions need to embrace to remain competitive ‣ How technology, social media, and proactive marketing can drive real growth If you’re in the mortgage industry—whether at a credit union, bank, or IMB—this conversation will challenge the way you think about customer relationships, mortgage marketing, and long-term borrower retention. About ACUMAThe American Credit Union Mortgage Association (ACUMA) is a non-profit trade association dedicated to supporting and advancing credit unions in the mortgage lending industry. Exclusively composed of credit union professionals and their primary suppliers, ACUMA serves as a vital resource for networking, education, and advocacy in home finance. 🔗 Become a member 🔗 Explore upcoming events 🔗 Get involved in ACUMA's community About Peter BenjaminPeter Benjamin is the President of ACUMA and a seasoned leader with nearly two decades in the lending industry. A Certified Mortgage Banker and Six Sigma Black Belt, he has a proven track record of leading high-performing teams, driving growth, and streamlining processes for efficiency and profitability. A graduate of the MBA’s Future Leaders Program, Peter brings deep expertise in lending, finance, product development, and strategic planning—all with a people-first, service-driven approach. He also serves as a board member of the Bollinger Foundation, reflecting his commitment to making a lasting impact beyond the industry. Connect with PeterLinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterjbenjamin/ About Dale VermillionDale Vermillion, an industry icon, has trained over 1,000,000 lending professionals and worked with more than 600 organizations. He is a three-time HousingWire Vanguard, a member of the 2022 Global Mortgage 100, and the author of Navigating the Mortgage Maze. Dale is also the founder of Mortgage Professionals Providing Hope. Connect with DaleLinkedIn → linkedin.com/in/dalevermillion YouTube → youtube.com/@dalevermillion Facebook → facebook.com/dalevermillionofficial X → x.com/dalevermillion Website → dalevermillion.com Email → listen@dalevermillion.com About Batting 1,000Batting 1,000 with Dale Vermillion is a production of Mortgage Champions. The show is produced and edited by Jake Vermillion. Music by Envato Elements. Copyright 2024 © Vermillion Consulting, Inc., All Rights Reserved.

    46 min
5
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9 Ratings

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Join award-winning sales expert Dale Vermillion every month for high-impact conversations with real estate's heaviest hitters. This podcast is for every originator, processor, and real estate agent looking to gain an upper hand in their business. From sales strategy to business development to personal branding, listeners will learn how to remain at the top of their field by honing their craft with proven best practices developed by the very best.

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